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FSUZeta 08-14-2006 04:07 PM

quota additions
 
trying to find the answer to another question, i came upon this explaination in the npc greenbook:

to paraphrase: there is a cap of 5% of quota for any chapters quota additions.
to be eligible for quota additions the campus must be using the npc release figure method.

as long as a pnm's name appears somewhere on the chapters bid list, she did not single intentional preference(suicide) and she attended all recruitment events to which she received an invitation, she will be matched to the fraternity chapter she listed on her membership recruitment acceptance form which is the smallest in chapter size. however, the group may not exceed quota by more than 5 %. if 5% of quota is a fractional number then the number is rounded up.

quota additions will not raise the overall total and it can only be used during bid matching

this is used for women whose bids did not match in the normal course of bidmatching and who must be placed in a chapter that has already reached quota.

Drolefille 08-14-2006 04:25 PM

wait is that last word total or quota?

FSUZeta 08-14-2006 04:40 PM

oops!! thanks for pointing that out. i was not actually trying to make an already confusing explanation, more confusing:)

Drolefille 08-14-2006 04:41 PM

lol it just didn't make sense with "total" there :D

Thanks for posting it, I never really understood it as an undergrad.

ADPi Conniebama 08-20-2006 06:33 PM

so here is my question - if the

polly pnm ranks xyz first (and xyz reaches quota)
polly pnm ranks abc second (and abc hasnt hit quota yet)

will panhellenic put polly with xyz - so she gets her first choice
or will they put polly with abc to get them to quota?

AZ-AlphaXi 08-20-2006 06:50 PM

If polly pnm put ABC on her bid card and ABC hasn't hit quota then polly pnm will get a bid to ABC.

Zillini 08-20-2006 06:57 PM

Panhellenic will try to get as many Chapters as possible to Quota first before they look into quota additions.

honeychile 08-20-2006 09:13 PM

Can "suicides" be added in Quota Plus?

Zillini 08-20-2006 09:24 PM

I was told that PNMs who don't maximize all their options on their Pref Card make themselves ineligible for quota additions. But I haven't looked it up in the Green Book to make sure or for that matter it could be a campus to campus thing. Hopefully someone who knows could confirm or disprove this.

AZ-AlphaXi 08-20-2006 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by honeychile
Can "suicides" be added in Quota Plus?

From the "green book" on Quota Additions

This procedure shall never include a woman who lists an intentional single preference on her preference Membership Recruitment Acceptance or one who has failed to accept or attend any membership recruitment event for which there was room in her membership recruitment schedule

AUAZD2001 08-21-2006 12:55 AM

If Polly PNM was only invited to xyz's prefernece party and she attended that party and she listed xyz sorority on her preference card, and xyz reached quota before she matched with them, would she be eligible for quota addiotions?

Zillini 08-21-2006 07:34 AM

As I understand the process, she maximized the options available to her even though it was only one. So yes she should be eligible for quota additions.

AXO Alum 08-21-2006 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zillini
As I understand the process, she maximized the options available to her even though it was only one. So yes she should be eligible for quota additions.

But only if she also listed XYZ on the card as well, right? In other words, she would have to list a second (or third - or however many they are supposed to list) even if she didn't pref them -- otherwise, just listing ABC - for whatever reason - would = single intentional preference.

aopinthesky 08-21-2006 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AXO Alum
... otherwise, just listing ABC - for whatever reason - would = single intentional preference.

It would not be counted as a single intentional preference if she only attended one pref. If she attended 2 or 3 prefs and only listed one group on her bid card it would be considered suicide.

Zillini 08-21-2006 03:11 PM

Someone who was only invited to and attended 1 Pref should be eligible for quota additions, but obviously only for that Chapter simply because she won't be on anyone else's bid list.

Next question. If a PNM suicides it disqualifies her from being considered for quota additions. She would still eligible for snap bidding though right?

AUAZD2001 08-25-2006 02:51 AM

Am I to understand if Polly PNM is invited to and attends only one preference party and lists that house on her preference card, she is GUARANTEED a bid there because she maximized her choices and that house is required to place her somewhere on their bid list. And because of quota addtitions, even if the house reaches quota before she matched with them, she will still be added to their bid list?

AGDee 08-25-2006 05:26 AM

No, because in most cases, there is a limit to how many quota additions can be taken also.

FSUZeta 08-25-2006 08:28 AM

kelly, there are no guarantees

zillini, got my green book out and it does not mention anything about sip's and snap bidding. to quote:

"snap bidding is an option available to chapters which did not fill formal membership recruitment quota spaces in bid-matching, whether matching by hand or computer. snap bidding is not intended to fill spaces in the chapter total. snap bidding is limited to any woman who participated in the designated formal membership recruitment.

snap bidding should be under the direction of the college panhellenic membership recruitment committee, working with the chapters who have quota vacancies. a signed membership recruitment acceptance shall be filed with the college panhellenic before a woman who has accepted a snap bid may be pledged. snap bidding shall begin immediately after bid matching and end with the distribution of bids, at which time continous open bidding shall begin."

AUAZD2001 08-26-2006 07:53 PM

A question about snap bids: if a house has made quota, but is still under campus total, may they extend snap bids? Or COB on Bid Day?

PenguinTrax 08-26-2006 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AUAZD2001
A question about snap bids: if a house has made quota, but is still under campus total, may they extend snap bids? Or COB on Bid Day?


yes to both.

AUAZD2001 08-27-2006 12:49 AM

Thanks. I guess no one but the new member, and a few officers and panhellenic would know if someone was a snap bid, COB or a new member through normal bid matching.

FSUZeta 08-28-2006 04:46 PM

yep, you are right!!

Zillini 08-29-2006 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AUAZD2001
Thanks. I guess no one but the new member, and a few officers and panhellenic would know if someone was a snap bid, COB or a new member through normal bid matching.

Theorectically. But I know actives who figured out Polly PNM/New Member was a snap bid because she didn't attend Pref. Considering we typically have around 300 PMNs at Pref, it's not easy to remember them all but it is doable.

Last year we had to snap bid 3 members and each of those women have become wonderful members. 1 is now an officer, 1 a vital committee Chair and the other is a well loved, active member. Just goes to show that no active should ever judge a new member by how she got into the sorority nor should a PNM dismiss a snap bid out of hand because her feelings were hurt for not matching.

SexySquirrel 04-22-2007 07:23 AM

Originally Posted by AUAZD2001
A question about snap bids: if a house has made quota, but is still under campus total, may they extend snap bids? Or COB on Bid Day?



I'm confused. I was under the impression that if a house makes quota they cannot snap bid, but they can COB as long as not at chapter total. Is this correct? Or can they snap bid regardless, as long as they're below chapter total??

Drolefille 04-22-2007 10:58 AM

I think snap bids are to quota (and possibly quota plus, but I'm not sure)

Anything else is technically COB. This could include if some of their bids from recruitment don't show up. We had girls my last year who just dropped out of recruitment the last day. Next year the Pi Chis made it clear that that wasn't dropping out of recruitment. Don't sign the card if you don't want a bid. :rolleyes:

amanda6035 09-04-2007 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FSUZeta (Post 1299318)
however, the group may not exceed quota by more than 5 %. if 5% of quota is a fractional number then the number is rounded up.

Okay....I have a question.

I was looking at the recruitment results page, and I'm wondering how the 5% rule actually works. If I'm not mistaken - AGD at UGA got 64 new member,s when quota was only 52. HOW does 12=5%????

I thought that the most any chapter could have taken would have been 52 + 5%, or 2.6 girls, rounded up to 3.

So how is it that they were able take take quota plus 12? I'm just trying to understand the process. Thanks.

AlphaFrog 09-04-2007 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amanda6035 (Post 1512493)
Okay....I have a question.

I was looking at the recruitment results page, and I'm wondering how the 5% rule actually works. If I'm not mistaken - AGD at UGA got 64 new member,s when quota was only 52. HOW does 12=5%????

I thought that the most any chapter could have taken would have been 52 + 5%, or 2.6 girls, rounded up to 3.

So how is it that they were able take take quota plus 12? I'm just trying to understand the process. Thanks.

I'm pretty sure AGD was under total before recruitment, and so the other 9 may have been Snaps (COBs) and not QA's.

UGAalum94 09-04-2007 06:30 PM

I haven't EVER been involved in bid matching, (thank god, everyone), so I'm completely speculating based on random conversation with an active member and GC.

Technically the additional girls may be snaps or COB, but they are apparently extended only to girls who attended prefs, were on the bid list, and listed the groups, so the experience to the chapter and to the PNM is that of QA. The PNMS are matched to a chapter they listed after prefs and the PNMs were on the chapters bid list, which isn't the usually snap and COB situation.

But I can't figure out the numbers at all. I think UGA may be looking more carefully at all the chapter sizes when they balance the groups with additions. Rather than having hard cap at 5% for all chapters, they match PNMs beyond that cap at smaller chapters, thereby equaling chapter size out more. It seems to go beyond even matching them to total if total is really 170.

This kind of indicates my stalkery nature about UGA greek life, but when they put out the grade report, they usually put chapter size on there and we can kind of see how the QA groups stand. Usually the groups who are largest might only get one or two QAs.

ETA: not that it changes the discussion much, but I think that final quota was actually set at 56. Apparently they were working with quota range when the 52 came out as quota. But if you look, any group considered making quota got 56 or more.


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