Read..but you might get offended.
 

I noticed that so many black people are real quick to claim Jesus Christ as their Lord and personal Savior. Seriously, if I went up to a 100 black people and asked them if they loved Satan I’m sure 99% of them would say NO! And if I asked them if they loved Jesus Christ most would say YES! I know you are thinking that this is a good thing and it is, but I started to do some thinking.

If you look at the lifestyles that many of these people who claim to be so in love with Jesus Christ live, you will find that many of them glorify and support Satan's kingdom more than God’s kingdom. It bothers me how most of us desire to go to heaven, go to church and talk about getting all these blessings but when it comes to living a holy and pure life we make millions of excuses and reasons why we shouldn’t. How come so many Christians are walking around here having premarital sex, drinking, cussing, clubbing, lying, homosexuals, gossiping and back biting *just to name a few* but want to be the first to ask God to get them out of a situation and bless them. So if you really love God then why do you make so many excuses to worship the devil? No you many never admit that you are worshipping the devil and may even get offended by me saying that you do. But look at how you support and worship him: You buy the devil's music and make him rich, you watch the devil's TV shows and movies, you play the devil's video games, you have conversations that glorify his kingdom, we sleep with the devil, we drink his music yet no one will ever admit that they love him yet they worship him everyday. Oh but how many are willing to sacrifice to live a holy life for the one they claim to love? How many are willing to obey the scriptures and WAIT UNTIL MARRIAGE FOR SEX?, how many are willing to read their Bible daily and pray, how many are willing to serve in church?, how many are willing to show love to another person and make sacrifices?, why are so many Christian marriages ending in divorce when the scriptures say that God hates divorces? How many are willing to refrain from clubbing, drinking, smoking, and sinning?

And while I am ranting, let me get on the Black Greek Organization. Since this is Greek chat I would love to share my opinions. Now I was very interested in pledging ABC sorority. I read books, did tons of research, went to every program they had on campus, did community service and all you can think an interest would do. I even rushed and started the pledging process. Now I will not get into details of what went down during that process, but I quickly realized that this was not something a Holy Ghost filled Christian woman should engage in. I was immediately told that I could not participate in the college campus Women’s Bible Study and that this organization would come before my God. These were words exactly quoted from a member of the organization. So without putting any of the other members on blast, I realized that my Christianity was more important than this sorority. And that these members or founders could not get me into heaving, fulfill my purpose on this earth or have any REAL benefit to my existence. But I had to think about how many of these organizations “claim” to be founded on Christian principles yet nothing of what they say or do glorifies God in any way. I noticed how most members worship their letters, colors, founders and rituals than Jesus Christ. I saw how the girls who were interested would stay up all night reading books and materials to learn all that they could about the organization they were interested in pledging. They would endure any amount of stress, pain, abuse in order to receive what they ultimately wanted. It didn’t matter what they went through they just knew that in the back of their minds they would not drop line because what they wanted was more was worth more than any sacrifice they had to made. And in the end to many of them it was well worth it. They are now apart of organization where they have special bonds with females across the world. Some tell me that because of their affiliation they have received jobs and networked with women all over the country. So for them the 2-6 months of sacrifice was well worth it.

What if we as Christians could be like these Greek members and treat our Christianity like they do their Greek affiliation. Think about it. God has a family that anyone regardless of who you are, who you are related to, what you know, what you did in the past you could be apart of it. He doesn’t haze you to be apart of His family. Matter of fact the only one who suffered was His son and he did it so you wouldn’t have to suffer. God does not required you to spend lots of money, all He asks of you is 10% tithes which He promised to give back to you. In his family you have brothers and sisters across the world; He has the largest family compared to any Greek Organization. The founders are great men and women in the Bible, and all you need to know is available to all in the Holy Scriptures. And the benefits??? The benefits are out of this world you now have access to His throne, you access to His mercy and grace, He will forgive you for any and all of your sins. He provides all of your needs. He blesses you abundantly, He promised to give you eternal life. He will never leave you or forsake you. He takes care of all your problems and burdens so you can rest easy. He constantly is protection you for hurt, harm and danger. I mean who wouldn’t want to be apart of this wonderful family. With all these benefits yet people still complain about the persecution they deal with as a Christian and the moment something bad happens in their life they are ready to quit God but if they were pledging they wouldn’t think twice. People would rather go over and beyond and do more for a man made organization than what they would do for God’s family. Even though being apart of God’s family means less sacrifice and more benefits people would rather sacrifice more to be apart of a BGLO with LESS benefits. I think about how Greek members spend a lot of money on paraphernalia because they want others to recognize and know that they are apart of an organization. But how do we as Christians represent Christ? Many of are us are too ashamed to even let others know we are Christians. Would you spend money to wear something so others can identify you as a Child of God?? But you wouldn’t think twice to spend money for your Greek Organization.

Sorry for the rant, but this really bothers me. The purpose of this post was for you to be offended. Sooo offended and mad that you reflect on what I said and pray and ask God to change you. I don’t mind if this post is deleted because my goal and volition is that at least one person reads this in its entirety and that it pisses them off sooo much they want to do something about it and CHANGE their life. I have a crazy testimony and one of these days I will share it but to all of u interests and Greek members if you really love Jesus Christ than why do you continue to glorify the kingdom of Satan???

Replies appreciated…


~written by unknown2u~ BKA Sasha

I can't speak for anyone else but for me but I'm not offended. I have seen so many posts like this that they really don't shock me. I feel that for those who believe in Christ they have their own personal relationship with Him. It is not for me to sit in judgement of anyone. There are those of us who are at different places in our journey. God and God alone is the only one who truly knows a man's heart. I can't sit here and say who loves or doesn't love God. That's why I leave the separating to him. I've learned that it's a lot easier to bring others to Christ through love. Some people will read your post and be so turned off that they tune you out. Then others who know the scripture will read your post and see the inaccuracies and tune you out. For example you wrote: why are so many Christian marriages ending in divorce when the scriptures say that God hates divorces? Your statement can be very misleading please refer to Deut. 24 1:13. My point being that if you sincerely want to bring someone to Christ do it with love, gentleness and kindness.

Thank you Zeta Storm for your reply! However there are a few things I need to address.

I do agree with you that in order to win souls we must show love. As a matter of fact love is the greatest commandment of all. However, love does not mean tolerance of sin. Love is not turning my head when I see another Christian brother or sister sinning. That passage was NOT for unsaved people. People who do not know Christ, I would never judge them or tell them to stop sinning. The truth is that they sin because they are a sinner, they are not a sinner because they sin. They can't help but sin they do not have the covering of the blood of Jesus Christ or the help from the Holy Spirit. For all unsaved people I show them love, the same love that was shown to me when I was out in the streets acting a fool. So if anybody reads that post who is NOT SAVED. I tell you that you CANNOT change yourself only God through his love and grace can save you. So there is no way I can judge or condemn you for you what you do because it is your nature to sin.

Now to Christians, who continue to sin. The Bible says you can judge a tree by the fruit is bears and that we as Christians have the authority and duty to hold each accountable. If you say that you are a follower of Jesus Christ and then you continue to worship Satan's kingdom please believe I will call you out on that. Because sin is sin and the Bible says the wages of sin is death. Remember that with obedience comes blessings and with disobedience comes curses. I am trying to save you from cursing your life and future genarations. Trust me I am STILL dealing with curses because of things my parents have done. CURSES TRANSCEND THROUGH GENERATIONS!!

You also said that I was inaccurate about my statement regarding divorce. I want to clear this up so that no one reading this goes on misinformed. The scripture you posted was the law under Moses. If you read the book of Deut and Leviticus you will see a list of Thou Shall and Thou Shall Nots that were estabilshed during the days of Moses for the people. However, if you continue reading the Bible to the New Testament, Jesus clearly says that we are no longer under the law of Moses but the law of Grace. Therefore, some of the laws and ordinances no longer apply to us. Now there are some that were re-iterated and established under the new law but Jesus makes it clear as to what laws have changed. If you read Matthew 5:17-30, the disciples asked Jesus about divorce and Jesus says that unless your spouse commits adultery than you shall not get a divorce because God Hates Divorce!!. IF it is for any other reason than that is SIN. Read Matthew, then get back to me.

I am not trying to tell you off or say you are wrong but I don't want you to be misinformed. Many times people read part of the scriptures and not the entire book and they get information wrong or they are mislead to think things that arent true. Which is why we have so many cults are forming. Please remember that when you read the Bible to do research and read other scriptures. If all the laws were the same in the Old Testament than that would mean that when a women is on her menstrual she should flee town for 7 days. That wouldnt not make sense for the time we are living in due to modern technology. Remember that those laws were under Moses, read the New Testament we are under the law of GRACE. I hope that clears things up for anyone that may be reading this.

How are you determining who is and who isn't a Christian?

Isn't this the same discussion from over on AKA Ave.? Why is it being rehashed?

Not offended. Take care. Best to you and yours.

I go by the people who claim to be a Christian. Who verbally say they are a Christian (which means they represent Christ) but their actions say something else.

Girl, nobody is hardly offended by this drivel. Aren't you damning your soul to hell just by virtue of of being on this here GREEK chat site??? I'm just saying... 123 posts??? Stop it.

Oh my!! Now that's comedy.

Cliffnotes, anyone?

I'm not sure that's the best way to go about it.

Do you claim to be saved Bamboozled??

i can't believe i'm asking for a recap after 12 posts, LOL

I can believe it.

In a nutshell, homegirl came through to REHASH issues that had been previously discussed here and here.

Basically:

• If you are Greek, you worship the devil and will go to hell.
• If you kiss boys, you worship the devil and will go to hell.
• If you kiss girls, you worship the devil and will go to hell.
• If you get a divorce, you worship the devil and will go to hell.
• If your first name begins with any letter between A through Z, you worship the devil and will go to hell.
• If you are reading this post on GC, you are worshipping the devil and will go to hell.

The list goes on and on.....

This thread has emerged to remind all of us that we are ungodly.... *sigh*

LMAO!!!! :D :D
Bobby Bouche's mama said that if you get rejected from an organization, they are the Debul too.....:D

And fooooseball is the debul!!!

holy cow, lol

Exactly. That is really the point.

RE:I am not trying to tell you off or say you are wrong but I don't want you to be misinformed. Many times people read part of the scriptures and not the entire book and they get information wrong or they are mislead to think things that arent true. Which is why we have so many cults are forming. Please remember that when you read the Bible to do research and read other scriptures. If all the laws were the same in the Old Testament than that would mean that when a women is on her menstrual she should flee town for 7 days. That wouldnt not make sense for the time we are living in due to modern technology. Remember that those laws were under Moses, read the New Testament we are under the law of GRACE. I hope that clears things up for anyone that may be reading this.

When I said that the statement was misleading/inaccurate I cited that example because if you're talking to an unsaved person you really should keep it simple and be clear when you speak. Just because a person says they're a Christian does not mean that they are saved.

Actually you are the one who used part of a scripture. Trust me I'm a long ways from being misinformed but you questioned Christians getting so many divorces and stated that God hates divorce. This is where you should have inserted scripture. That can easily be taken that God does not permit divorce at all.

We can go into the book of Matthew but it just further shows the flaws in your post. This is why I say it's not my place to judge. In Matthew it also speaks of those who were meant to be married and those who were never meant to be married (enuchs). So when you say so many Christians are getting divorced you don't know the reason for their divorce. That's why it's not your place to judge anyone saved or unsaved.

Divorce is permitted by God in both the Old and the New Testament, under the old and new law. An unsaved person would not even know anything about the law one way or the other. So when you made that statement that is when you should have used scripture to clarify what you meant. If that was your intention.

I'm wise enough to know that satan can quote and twist scripture to deceive. I'm also wise enough to know that I can reach more people with love and gentleness than with ranting and raving. It could easily be read that if you get a divorce you're going straight to hell. (Especially if you read all of your other statements before that.) Which simply is not true.

I just cited that particular statement as an example that anyone who knows the Word can see through your post. I believe that your presentation and delivery makes people question your true intentions. I for one question your motives.

I could go on and on because there are so many issues with your post. You're talking about offending people into changing their ways but it's really coming off that you're screaming for attention. You say that you will call a person out about their sin if they claim to be saved. A lot of people would say that you could start in the church first instead of coming here to Greechat. You speak of not tolerating sin however no one forces you to log into Greekchat. Your statements just don't connect.

It's things like this that have caused a lot of people to lose respect for the church and Christians in general. As a very wise friend of mine likes to say always do things in decency and in order. At this point I really ditto CrimsonTide4.

LMAO dammit!!

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Don't concern yourself with what I claim. You've already got me condemned to hell. Why am I even answering this, lol?

^^^ Intolerant of Hinduism.

Huh?

Ok sorry, I've been following for a while but that just made me laugh loud enough that my coworkers are starting to stare :D

I guess I'm strictly going to hell. I joined one black sorority almost two years ago, dropped out of that late sorority, and now I'm aspiring to become a Zeta. If that works out, I will be double greek.

That's it. I'm done with y'all.

unknown2u,

I spoke to Jesus just this morning and He said that He has some close personal friends in greek letter organizations. He said some of them have had close personal relationships with Him for quite a while. He told me that His friends are in these organizations for a purpose, and that purpose is only for Him and His friends to know (I just assumed it was part of their close personal realtionship). He does however have real issues with the judgement thing. You may want to talk to Him about that. BTW, He also said something about spending so much time on the internet-something about neglecting real work.

Your (and Jesus') friend,

RV

Will you wear a line jacket that has your late sorority and Zeta on it? Maybe your line name can be Reunited and It Feels So Good.

LLLLLLLLMAO @ RedVelvet, but it is so true. :cool:

LOL, you dummy

Interesting...very interesting...

I choose Not to respond to many of you directly because it is clear and apparant from your actions and responses that you are either not saved or your hearts and minds are so harden you will not even comprehend or genuinely hear what I am trying to say.

For those who feel that they are living an honest life and that they are not sinning or doing anything wrong. For those who justified their affliations with Greek organizations. For those who think that worshipping things of this world is not bad. For those who claim that I condemned everyone to hell, which i did not . For those who make extreme comments that I cleary never spoken (RD). I choose to ignore you. Because no matter what i say, no matter how many scriptures I speak to prove the truth to you. Until you made the decision that you want to be free because the truth can only set you free than I can speak to you. Until now i will show you love and pray for you. Again my post was not for Hindu's, Muslims or Agnostics. It was for people who are saved but have been blinded into doing things that contradict the Word of God. So if you already know you are not saved, anything i say at this juncture does not apply to you. Thank you!

Now the only one person I will respond to is ZetaStorm because i believe you say some very powerful things. Out of all these people you speak the most wisdom and have a very clear understanding of the word of God. I actually have received a lot of what you say and enjoy reading your post. You keep mentioning this scriptures not being clear but again like I said I was addressing Christians. And if you are a Christian you should be reading your Word because when I said that God hates divorce that is an exact quote in the Bible READ MALACHI 2:16. Also as to why i have so many post on Greekchat, is because i mentioned earlier that I was an interest of a sorority so i came on here to learn more about the groups and talk to indivuals in that sorority. after i quit the process, I came back on here to shed some light on people who were lost like I once were.

RedVelvet (i guess ill address you since you claim you talk to God), if you truly talked to God. Did he tell you that thou shall have no gods before him and that when you worship your greek organization you are putting it as a god before him. Trust me I know about the sworn secrecies, the rituals, the promises, the crest, the oath. So don't trip and think that all of that is of God. I love it when Greeks blind themselves to the truth to justify their actions. I love going to Greek programs and everyone on the panel says WE ARE A NON HAZING ORGANIZATION!! But wait until the process starts then you are told to LIE about any and everything that took place. Oh yeah lying is a sin too. So how can someone who takes part of this have a TRUE, SINCERE relationship with God???? Please tell me, I really want to know.

You're probably one of those people who REALLY thinks Jesus sends out email and text message forwards every morning with the daily Word.

"If you love the Lord, send this message to 10 friends and receive a free pass to Heaven. If you don't forward this on, I (Jesus) know exactly where your heart is and will email Satan to prepare a place in Hell for you."

Malachi 2:16 King James Version (my Living Word version is in my car right now):

For the Lord, the God of Israel, saith that he hateth putting away: for one covererth violence with his garmet, saith the Lord of hosts: therefore take heed to your spirit, that ye deal not treacherously.

Yeah...that's as clear as the day is long.... :rolleyes:

People, stop the Bible beating and Scriptural warfare (usually based on misguided and biased interpretations of the Word). Pray on it and you will receive guidance. Following the interpretations of humans can sometimes lead you down a path of confusion and self-destruction.

Whatever.... :rolleyes:

No, you did not directly condemn our souls to hell. However, are you stating that one who worships the devil will be admitted into Heaven? Does one who supports the Devil's kingdom go to heaven? Last time I checked, the answer was no. Thus, through deductive reasoning, would it be safe to think that one who worships the devil and supports his kingdom will go to hell? So, if WE, as Greeks and all other ungodly beings that you claim us to be, participate in such activities that don't fit your list of standards, aren't we hellbound?

Look, I am NOT going to argue with you. I don't have to prove anything to you. I don't know you (as you are UNKNOWN 2 ME) and you don't know me. I don't need anyone outside of life, heart and soul to verify that for me. I know the Lord. I LOVE the Lord. He knows and loves me as well. Plain and simple.

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No actually I dont. Dont even know where you got that from. How could an email confirmed your salvation. Usually I just delete those kinds of emails. Oh wait were you trying to be funny? Either way Im not sure how you arrived to that conclusion.

Also Im not sure what Bible you own, so just so others wont be mislead here is what Malachi 2:16 says.

Malachi 2:16 (New American Standard Bible)
New American Standard Bible (NASB)

16"For I hate divorce," says the LORD, the God of Israel, "and him who covers his garment with wrong," says the LORD of hosts. "So take heed to your spirit, that you do not deal treacherously."

jesus is the homey

Why do you doubt that I spoke to Jesus? Is it because He didn't tell me what YOU wanted to hear? He told me that He uses all kind of situations and circumstances to allow His friends to realize that He is there for them (a friend that sticks closer than a brother, you know). Isn't that what He did with you? He allowed your spirit to recognize that a greek letter organization was not for you-that your service may be elsewhere. My personal experience has allowed me to walk among addicts, prostitutes, murderers, idolators, LIARS other so-called "sinners" and not be harmed or swayed from my path. Jesus has allowed me to show sinners by my life that there is better way to live. But I had to be among sinners to reach them. Some of Jesus' closest, most dedicated, personal friends are those who have come to Him out of horrible personal experieces. They have been through the fire and they are now sure of their purpose in Him. I don't judge. I believe in restoration and reconcilliation. In Him there is no condemnation. Let go of your anger and re-read my first post. Its all love.

Good. You "read" like one of those people.

Yes, my New Living translation says "For I hate divorce! says the Lord, the God of Israel. It is cruel as putting on a victim's bloodstained coat. says the Lord Almighty. So guard yourself; always remain loyal to your wife."

But as you can see, things are often lost or created in translation seeing as though this "modern" translation is very different from the King James version and the King James is probably different from the actual text. Sure, "putting away" could have meant "divorce" back then but I don't know where the rest of that translation came from and neither do you. Moreover, many people are fundamentalists and think that this means that they are going to Hell if they get a divorce (I've heard that plenty of times). That's ridiculous to say the least and THIS is why Scriptural warfare gets a great big "BLAH" from me.

ETA: And no one can be "mislead" by what's in this thread unless they don't own a Bible and/or need to seek a CLOSER WALK WITH THEE.

Does He have a myspace page yet? He needs to get with it!!!