How do professors look at greeks?
 

I heard that certain people (ex. cops) aren't very nice to greeks. How about professors at school?

Pretty much the same. As a whole, academia and the law don't view Greeks well, unless they themselves were Greek. You shouldn't let this stop you from joining. Many Greek groups throw semi-regular professor networking events or award their professors for their great teaching/mentoring as a way to promote good relationships.

The reason for the historically poor view of Greeks are the isolated yet well publicized acts of sheer stupidity and poor decision making involving alcohol, neglecting studies or being disrespectful. Cops tend to have a negative view of fraternity men because of noise complaints, DUIs and underage drinking-- things that go on at any college campus, but ones that are especially publicized if they occur at a fraternity house. There's a lot of mystery surrounding what happens in those selective Greek groups, so people like to pin stereotypes or are just perversely curious as to what they are doing.

I've seen very different reactions. It really depends on the personality of the professor. I had a Journalism professor who loved Tri Deltas - he'd really liked their writing in the past, so by the time I had him, I felt as though he almost liked me better because I was a Tri Delta. Other professors seem to have prejudices against Greeks in general however.

In the future, lets say when you are applying to a graduate school, would you mention in your application letter that you've been a greek?

Our professors love us. And more than likely, so do our police officers. Usually if many guys in the house have the same professor/class (usually business majors), we invite him/her over, feed them, and help us prepare for a test. More than often, they are more than happy to help.

Police officers give us the same treatment, because we tend to know them all. We are forced to have police at our parties as sort of door security, so we spend time talking to them at the door. We bring pizza and bring out water or juice for them.

i think that would depend on what type of graduate program you were applying to and how your membership experiences relate to the graduate program.

i mentioned it in mine because my membership has contributed significantly to my research interests and also to my perspectives regarding women's issues. i also brought it up at one of my interviews - so yes, i do believe there is a place for this information but only if it is relevant (its not like i was hoping another alpha gam would be on the admissions committee)

- marissa

Profs on the average love the Greeks here, heck we had a few that helped us out with pledging! Many here either used to be greek themselves, had children to pledge here, or were lil bros or lil sis'! We've had cops even have fun with events and there is even a thread on here of how some cops did a prank with my own sorority.... :D

How do professors look at greeks?

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Hahaha! ^^^ I appreciate that greatly.

Due to the Otterbein curse, some of our professors are alums of our orgs! And if theyre not, theyre advisors/consultants. OC has this weird way of having alumns come back to teach or work. They understand the importance of the GLO's to sudents and the campus. I can only think of one or two who are really outspoken against us.

I've only had positive experiences in this regard, because many of my professors are in BGLOs. I've had 2 Delta professors, an Alpha professor, a Kappa professor, and an AKA professor who also happened to be the chair of my graduate Social Work program. So, it's been all good for me.

I an not sure how ethniticty has to do with it? Maybe the School?


But, most of the Colleges I am aware of want their Profeesors to be incvolved in other Activitys, so why not ask?

Who said anything about ethnicity? :confused:

Huh? Because I mentioned BGLOs? :confused:

I may have had professors that were in other GLOs, but I wasn't aware of it. They didn't make it known. I didn't go to a HBCU if that's what you mean by the school though. I went to a PWI.

I would definitely mention it in the future, particularly if you were involved with philanthropy work or other community work. I know that I have had very positive feedback from sharing my GLO experience on my resume. When I was in college, there were a few professors who didn't like Greeks, but they normally didn't squawk about it too much after Formal Recruitment or Rush was over... On the whole, they respected the Greek organizations and shared their own stories of Greek affiliation and antics. Once, I had a professor who told me he was the "Bastard of the Revels" for his fraternity, and had a party on a fire truck. Craziness.

It really depends on the school and the reputation that the greeks have at that particular school. Some of it is positive and other times it is negative. I have no clue how it is in San Diego State but really ask people at that university they have a better idea.

As for putting that you are greek on a grad school application, if it is relevant to your program or if you have done something substantial during your time in a fraternity (i.e took leadership positions, philanthropy). Other than that, I heard that it is seen negative, but really don't put it on there for sake of filling your application up.

I'd mention it - but in a positive context.

-Volunteered at Ronald McDonald House, Regular Blood Donor,
-Excellent Time Management skills; was able to maintain a 3.5 GPA while serving as President of my sorority.

As for Professors, many GLOs hold an Academia Tea or Brunch or Open House. Everyone invites their favorite professor, and have the tea or brunch while discussing how to maintain better grade averages. Make sure that a chart of sisters & GPAs is displayed (one that skews the curve towards Major Office + Intense Studies = Great GPA). Announce the fact that you have Study Hours, and Midterm and/or Finals Study breaks. Keep the hours short (Sunday, 1-3 or such), so the professor doesn't feel duty bound to stay long, and tell them that their SO is welcome, too. This works quite well on most campuses - but PLEASE keep a list of which sisters wants to invite which professors (have at least one back up), and who RSVP'd. You do NOT want two sisters "claiming" the same professor!

It depends on how the Greeks behave. A few years ago, the campus where I teach had only locals and there are a couple of threads on GC in which I wrote about their awful hazing. Our college has many professors who are national Greeks and we were mortified by the image these idiots were giving Greeks. I would say that we spearheaded the move to change to nationals--I can still remember the day that most of one of my classes walked in wearing stupid outfits. They were pledging and this had already been going on for weeks. I snapped that day and told them to leave and that I'd throw out anyone who ever came into one of my classes dressed like that. Little did I know that several other professors had snapped on the same day; it was the beginning of the end for the locals.

We now have Phi Mu, ZTA, Chi Phi, and Delta Sigma Phi!

Eastern Kentucky University professors look on greeks with disfavor. They always state their reasoning as the reason we dont get our exams back as "because fraternities and sororities use them to cheat, or to study from and gives others a disadavantage." There actually was a cheating incident in the nursing program in Fall of 2005 and NO greeks were involved in that.

EKU also is not favorable to Sorority recruitment. IT has caused the sororities to have to compete with scheduling "New Student Days" in which all freshman are required to go to. Now recruitment is is scheduled so most of it begins before the first day of classes with bid day being the first or second day of classes. I think it's all a bunch of poop especially since the greeks contribute approximately 85% of alumni contributions to the university.

The sad part of Professors not liking Greeks is due to many stupid things that Greeks can and do do. We can give ourselves black eyes in thier perspective.

But, if one stops and thinks for the most part, The GLO GPA is higher than the school average, they can see the many good charity events that we do and do appreciate them.

My chapter has always tried to have a Facualty Advisor who can be a go between with us and the school and it has worked out very well.

The schools do expect school members to do out side functions so why not ask a facualty member.


As carnation said at her school the Professors were very unhappy with the local situation and it has changed when switched to nationals. Now, I am not saying locals are bad, but in this instence, they were.

My uncle became very prejudiced against Greeks after some fraternity boys at his school stole a test from the professor in one of his classes. I can only imagine what the professor thought of that fraternity afterwards. My uncle was very angry to say the least.

Someone more enlightened would understand that it was just a few specific individuals, and that not all GLO members are like that. But he or she may not have been aware that many GLOS do condemn theft and plagiarism.

OMG, I love this post!:D

Most Tenured Profs do not change their tests and back when, each GLO or a lot of them had files for tests in their houses.

So, it too is a learning process isnt it?:)

I did once break into a Bio Lab to get the test just Animal House, but it was an old one!:eek:

I have heard of test banks before. But that would be more students keeping their old tests that they received back complete with grades.

This case involved the members of a fraternity actually stealing a test that had not been administered yet.

I did and was accepted! I am attending Duquesne University (Online) for my Masters of Science in Community Leadership. My involvement with Beta Sigma Phi (before I was initiated into Alpha Sigma Alpha) was viewed as positive leadership expierence. As others have mentioned, it needs to be relevant to the admissions process and positive!
Hope this helps!

Jamie

OOPs on stealing tests before hand, I know!:D

It never hurts to be Proud of Your Greek Affiliation, you never know who might be a Greek!

If anyone remembers, that there a a lot of the Major CEOs of Fortune 500's who are Greeks, and most of the Presidents of The USA!

But, We are a bad influence on Americas Young!;)

The professors like the Greek Syster here. They are always willing to help out with the philanthropy events(being judges and such). Although most of my professors look amazed when I walk into class with letters on because I think I'm 1 of 2 sorority girls in the whole engineering college.

And as for the test files.....My professors have stop giving back test because the engineering students have their own files and always help out there friends(and also the solutions manuels can found by asking some one that has taken the class before hand)....They have never mentioned Greeks as a reason not to give back the test.

Don't know about professors, per se, but it was tough for me as a greek to break into the insular world that was the Pitt News Staff. When I started covering stories, I was the only greek on staff. By the time I graduated, it was maybe 20% greek.

It was difficult - I got saddled with the most benign, boring, tedious stories at first until I proved to the powers that be that I was a good reporter. I worked very hard to earn the respect of the editors and, to my surprise, I was asked to be copy editor my senior year.

And when one of my journalism professors heard that I was going into public relations upon graduation, he said "Why PR after you've become such a damn good newspaper woman?"

Journalists are generally pretty snarky toward the PR trade. I think they perceive it as glamorous and well-paid. No and noooooo.

I had a professor once say to me "I'm sure you'll do great on this test because your sorority has a test bank. Sororities are the reason I don't hand back my tests anymore and why you have to do them on a scantron."

Um... ok. I've never seen nor heard of said test bank... but I guess since a professor told me it's there, it must exist, right?

Our test bank is enormous

Interesting to me that some professors get so bent out of shape about it. In law school,the law school library maintained the test bank and all professors placed all of their exams in it. The idea was that you were an idiot if you didn't study earlier examples of that professor's exams -- every professor would tell you to study their old tests.

My point isn't that the prof got so bent out of shape about our test bank, my point is that my prof just ASSUMED that we had one, which we definitely do not.

Thanks for the clarification.

For the most part, I dont think professors have an opinion either way.

What is funny, if and I say if, a GLO has a test bank, it is for a reason to help on tests. If a Prof is to lazy to change his tests around, so be it.

But, in any class, there can be a multitude of questions, many being the same from old tests. It is still a learning process by the student isnt it?

If a student cannot learn out of book about the subject, then, how much will they learn from just reading test questions and have no comprehension?

Some Academians have huge egos or after tenure are just plain bored and need a new profession.

i've noticed that a lot of my professors are either completely neutral or react positively, asking about events and never hesitating to let us announce programming and things.

i guess greeks have a polarizing power-- some love us and some hate us, depending on where they get their information from.

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Hey, I just signed up on this thing, and I've been looking at other Greek signatures. Does anyone know how to get Greek letters to show up as a signature. I can't figure it out. My sig looks pretty weak. Oh well, can't win em' all.:o

I really never had a problem with the professors that were Greek. I had a problem with the ones that weren't but only when I was on line, b/c my grades had dropped while I was pledging.

hehe yeah i can't do that either. hehehe

Click on the "Quick Links" tab, scroll to "Edit Signature". Open Microsoft Word type your letters onto the document (by using the Insert Symbol Command), highlight them, type CTRL+C, go back to the edit signature field on GC and type CTRL+V.

I tried that, and when it gave me a preview my letters showed up as shapes. Is that how it looks in the preview? Thanks for helping me.:o