greek/party life?????
 

I'll be completely honest i partied my fuckin brain out in high school and somehow managed to come out with a 3.2 gpa so im going off to Arizona state University in a couple weeks.

My question is how is the party life in fraternities? I mean i want to drink as much beer and smoke as much pot as i possibly can in four years, cuz after that its time to grow up and be responsible, im just worried that greek life won't be as crazy as i want it to be. I mean i know ill make close friends no matter what, but the best memories with friends are always the f***ed up times. and i would want to join a fraternity that values parties and beer and pot as much as i do.

Any input on the greek party life would help??

Be thankful you aren't rushing in the SEC or down here.........because you would get balled from every house imagineable. If you think drinking beer and smoking a little pot is some wild and crazy thing.........you have alot to learn about partying my friend. Not to mention that you obviously have absolutely no clue about fraternities.

so help me out a little here i know what im talkin about isnt insane, im just trying to get a feel for what the scene is like. What do you mean i have no clue about fraternities? enlighten me a little bit. And dont get me wrong thats not everything i look forward to its just what was on my mind at the time i posted cuz i was readin a bunch of stuff that led me to believe the greek system was turning away from those sorts of things.

I gotta keep an eye on this thread, things will get interesting. :D

3.2 high school GPA isn't much to brag about. College life is a lot different and it is NOT going to be that easy to skate by.

Lol at "the best memories with friends are always the f***ed up times". If you're f'ed up, how do you remember them?

I don't know how much you're going to find a fraternity that "values" pot. Being that smoking pot is illegal in this country (save the legalization arguments for another thread), no fraternity with half a brain is going to openly admit this. And no matter how hard partying the fraternity is, there's other things that go along with it that do not involve partying.

If this post is truly your thoughts on life and college, my crystal ball predicts that you will fail out of school pretty quickly.

I got ten bucks says there will be no sophmore year for you. Say it with me, "Welcome to McDonalds, may I take your order?"

Because he's got the tolerance of a high school kid. "Dude, I totally almost finished a six-pack by myself last night. I was so wasted."

Paging Mr. Troll...Mr. Troll, please.

(Can anyone really be that shallow? Never mind, the answer is obvious.)

Parents, do you know where your children are? :rolleyes: :(

Assuming you're just an over the top message board thespian stirring things up (but I'll humor you anyway)...here's the tough truth about "you" and where your "perspective" will take you:

You'll never make it. College will eat you alive.

But you do have the choice to pull your head out of wherever you stuck it and change. My advice to "you"...if you want even a fighting chance at being successful forget about everything you currently think about college and Greek Life and start over.

Otherwise I'll take a hot apple pie with my Big Mac please...

I....smell....perp.... :cool:

Can you perp being a PNM?

Don't join a fraternity for that. In fact, avoid Arizona State. Enroll at Colorado State (They have a rolling enrollment option) or a Northern school and join their Ski/Snowboarding club. You'll probably find a bunch of friends who have your same interests. Or, the first day at Arizona State, light one up in your dorm room, with the door open. You'll find what you're looking for.

I suggest you skip the parties for a while and focus on the use of commas, apostrophes, capitalization and other elementary aspects of coherent writing and sentence structure. Colleges can be kind of pricklish about that sort of thing -- they have this crazy idea that one should have learned how to write a proper sentence by sixth grade.

And thanks for offering, but I'll pass on super-sizing.

There's a reason I like Sinfonians so much.:D

Mike, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt here. The fact is that if a fraternity held beer, partying, and smoking pot above all else, they would certainly fail. Our national organizations have extremely high expectations, being in a fraternity is sometimes a lot of work (and a hell of a lot of fun). If you're not able to put in the time/effort required to keep your house afloat, it simply won't. The organization might struggle for a few years, and just exist, but eventually, they'll fail. They'll either die because no one wanted to work on Rush (which is a hell of a lot of work at a place like ASU, and very competitive), or they will be closed by their national HQ.

I'm not familiar with the ASU campus in the least, but what I've said is universally true in the fraternity world. Go through rush, but remember that how you do in college is going to determine how well you do for the rest of your life. If you flunk out in 2 semesters, you'll regret it forever.

That's not to say that you'll not be able to find a group that can have a good time, I just don't like seeing kids flunk out because they overemphasize partying to the extent that they forget why they're in college in the first place.

ASU throws good parties. You'll meet plenty of college students who like to party and live it up. But as a rule, the people do the partying, drinking, etc. Not the actual fraternities. If you join a fraternity, you will be subject to meeting GPA requirements, turning in study hours (possibly), community service and being a responsible person. They do throw parties; the new members are often the ones doing the set up and clean up. No fraternity values parties and beer and pot. These are national organizatons steeped in tradition (some more than 200 years old!). Many alumni are actively involved in programming which includes values such as brotherhood, service and scholarship. I am sure, however, at ASU or any college you will meet people fraternity men or not, who value parties and beer and pot as much as you do.

Don't join a fraternity for the parties. You won't be disappointed by the social aspect-- there are parties, date functions, formals and mixers with sororities. Not to mention football games, road trips and intramural sports. But there are also a lot of rules. There may be a handful of members in a chapter you join who enjoy alternative recreational activities. But fraternities are also mentored by alumni advisers and they engage in regular programming to encourage good lifestyle and academic choices.

Make sure you know what you are getting into. It's not just about parties.

Is that actually a serious question??? Because we get more than a few PNM perps every year....

I wouldn't join a fraternity just for the parties. You can go to those even if you're not in one. My cousin rushed for about 5 minutes at Pitt. Then he realized that if he joined a fraternity he'd actually have to pay for the beer. :rolleyes:

No, not really.

It's just funny since we're usually concerned with people perping letters.

I'd use "wannabe" more than perp in this guys case...

Although I do feel what you said is a bit immature and should definitely be pointed out as such, I do genuinely believe you want to learn more about fraternities. Just so you know, life will change a lot in college. It's not going to be like high school, so be prepared. If you want your life to stay like it is now, you might want to go to a community college, and continue hanging out with your high school friends.

For info about your college's fraternities, try this page: http://www.asu.edu/studentaffairs/mu/greeklife/

Just so you know, most fraternities and sororities were established in the 19th century, and value brotherhood and sisterhood, not partying. However, depending upon the fraternity that you choose to join, these can be added benefits, along with meeting individuals that you enjoy being with and can learn from. For instance, my brother, cousin, and sister-in-law were all Greek, and all had different experiences from mine. Keep an open mind when choosing your Greek organization, if you choose to join one at all, after recruitment.

ktsnake that is so true isnt it?

Oh, I just went to college to get drunk and smoke weed, which is the best greek dudes to hang with!:eek:

OUCH, GAG!

Parties, girls and beer played no small part in both my fraternity and college choices. I regret neither.

Maybe, but I get the sense from your posts that they weren't the only factors. I got the sense from this guy (assuming he's not a fake) that they were pretty much the only considerations.

Yeah but come on, he's what 18? Young, dumb and...

Mike, if you want to party your a## off join the army, get stationed at a brand new unit, and enjoy. I would like to say that I have partied more now that I am active duty in the Army then I did while in school and was active in Lambda Chi Alpha. I also know a guy that just schewed his life over bc of his partying. I will give you one piece of advice that I have learned over the last 3 years. It doesnt pay to party to every weekend you miss out on the best part of life. But if you must drink and smoke everyday dont join a fraternity but join the Ski and Snowboard Club or the Whitewater Rafting Club.

I guess if you want, you can perpetrate anything, even being a "high school graduate looking to join the first pot-smoking fraternity they see"... :D

True, it just seems weird... why not perp a fraternity guy who's in a pot-smoking fraternity and gets whooooa wasted all the ****-ing time?

Duuuude.
:p

I guess I really wouldn't know too much about that. I don't drink, smoke pot or party. I joined the frat for other reasons.

I bet your "frat" is really cool

Next four years? Try next seven. I doubt you'll even graduate considering how stupid you are.

Also, if you only want to join a fraternity for the parties and the drugs, there are a lot of other ways to do that without all the work that goes into running a fraternity. Maybe it's only at my school, because all the fraternities and sororities are very small, but every member has to do a lot of work to keep their organization running. I think because of that fact, the GLOs at my school have to be even more selective. If they take people that only want to party and get high, things will start to fall apart. I suggest not going to college at all. Get a job at mcdonalds. I'm sure you'd find a lot of pot heads and alcoholics there.

well said.

I pledged and was initiated at UGA, and later re-affiliated at U. Texas.

Pot is a strange thing. I have no use for it, and I certainly did my part to keep it out of the house. I even tried to blackball a pledge brother over it (he missed grades for initiation with our class and we tried to get rid of him that following quarter.)

It is my experience that the pot smokers/drug users in even the best fraternities are in a subculture of their own. Pot is much stronger at UGA than at Texas, and in my pledge class we had 4 regular smokers. 3 of them dropped out before pledgeship was over (and all 3 of them also failed out of Georgia within a year.) The 4th did finally get in, but a lot of us fought it.

But most of the regular pot smokers were outside the scope of existence of fraternity activities. Ladies from the better sororities certainly didn't want to associate with them, and drug-free actives like me certainly didn't want them around at social events.

I have no idea how ASU works, but your best bet is to ask around and see what the local scene is. At Georgia there are two middle-tier fraternities that that are known for their drug use by the majority of members, but which also get decent sorority mixers. At U. Texas there are none.

Your mileage may vary.

But in the grand scheme of things I agree with the other posters. Those two Georgia Chapters are also noticeable for their lack of active junior and senior members- pledges and sophomores compose the majority of the active membership. This is because so many of them dropped out of the frat (and college) before finishing because drugs were all they cared about.

Coming into the college life with hard drugs as a part of your life is a good way to radically decrease your odds of moving on in life. And frankly, if a fraternity does not help prepare you for life after graduation, what good is the investment of time and money?

I sure had my fun times as an active Greek- I'll stack up my good stories against anyone else's any day, but the overall experience prepared me for life beyond. I don't see how a drug-oriented house could provide that.

macallan25. Yeah, I think we're pretty Kool guys. I met a guy in you're frat (SAE). He pledged at Central Michigan. He was really cool and represented your frat well. He told me you guys were founded in 1856. I think that's great you guys have been going strong for that long.

Dude, I don't know what chapter you were in at Texas......but if you don't think there is any drug use among the top chapters......you need a wake up call.....and these top chapters do everything with the top sororities...Pi Phi, Theta, Kappa, etc. Its Austin for crying out loud. We are a hop skip and a jump from San Antonio.......if you don't think the cocaine and pot flows like wine here....then I dont know what to tell you. We get the best stuff in Texas.

Oh now your posts make more sense. So it was the drugs to blame not your stupidity. :D

Hey man,

I am not talking about use period- I am talking about being well known for it on a regular basis among the majority of members. I think most chapters have some of that- but the question is the reputation.

I am well aware of the cocaine usage at UT (and at a couple of chapters in particular since it was going on when we were all in high schools with lots of future UT Greeks too), as well as pot- but it is not part of daily life in the way it was at Georgia. It was daily life for many, but it was at least not spoken of or made an open part of reputation (except for those 2 chapters I referenced above which I will not name on the internet since they are not my house.)

I was a lifer at one of the best Houston private schools. I never tried it, but I know all about cocaine. And I know how many guys and girls with every advantage imaginable lost a lot of potential as a result- many before they even got to college.

Most play with it and let it go later. No worries. But not everyone does. And at UT, unlike UGA, those who played with it kept it to themselves- and hopefully most of them got over it in time.