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PhiSig648 08-01-2006 03:24 AM

Coat of Arms image needed
 
Does anyone have or know where I can get a copy of the LCA coat of arms in a high resolution image. I'm working on a project that requires some close in detail and I can't seem to find one.

Thanks for any help.
PhiSig648

john1082 08-01-2006 03:41 AM

Give me a call
 
Please give me a call tomorrow. I may have an answer for you.

Tom Earp 08-01-2006 05:31 PM

Interesting question!

We had a hard time finding the same thing to make into our New Bronze sign at the new house.

I have this but not to sure about it!;) http://www.greekhouseoffonts.com/index.php


Still looking for you!

dever860 04-16-2007 01:12 PM

Does anyone else have any ideas on this? The ones on nationals website is kinda ugly and not what I usually give tribute to as our coat of arms. Look's like my little cousin colored it in with magic marker.

Thanks in ZAX,
John
GT1111

http://www.lambdachi.org/publication...ofarmscymk.tif

Trey_P-I_47 04-16-2007 01:25 PM

There is actually a company on the web who customizes in graphics. They sell things like the Vinyl Stick on Letters, and there is place where you can create your own poster by sending them a picture of it. I believe they sell up to a 7 foot high poster. If anyone is interested just let me know, although I am gonna have to search again for the link. :cool:

dever860 04-16-2007 02:04 PM

Thats basically what I'm trying to do. Our original coat of Arms was stolen from our house years before my time, and a very nice canvas one we have is very old and has a few tears. By no means is it in condition to hang up for presentation. I just went to kinko's and those rat bastards tried to charge me $150 for a sign no larger than 2 feet, length and width. $7/sq ft.

I would a NICE high res image of the coat of arms. The more you blow up smaller images, obviously the worse they look. I suppose I could bite the bullet and color it in myself from that nice high-res black and white image they have up there.

Trey_P-I_47 04-16-2007 02:10 PM

Well here....try this site and see what they can do

http://www.wallhogs.com/in_stock/category/15

and check out their customization link too

dever860 04-16-2007 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trey_P-I_47 (Post 1430463)
Well here....try this site and see what they can do

http://www.wallhogs.com/in_stock/category/15

and check out their customization link too

Great prices, especially for the canvas prints. Now to find a good copy of the coat of arms.

Thanks Trey.

Trey_P-I_47 04-16-2007 02:49 PM

Its not a problem......I am always glad to help out Brothers whenever I can.......im not sure what kind of quality photo they need, so I would probably just try and contact them and see what they can work out.

Ottor 246 04-16-2007 02:53 PM

Here's what you need to do:

Get a copy of Form 25. Scan it into your computer, but first, set the resolution to some ridiculously high number like 2400 dpi. Then, you can put it into Photoshop and (here's the key) as you increase the dimensions, you lower the dpi.

Change it from 5"x7" (or whatever) at 2400 dpi to 18"x 24" at 300 dpi.

That way, you won't lose quality as you enlarge.

Also, I'm not sure if Form 25 still features that stupid-looking pink color instead of purple, but if I were you, I'd replace that, too.

dever860 04-16-2007 03:12 PM

Right now I am coloring in the black high res tiff from hq's website. I will post later if I am satisfied with the outcome. Mark, I will try it your way if I give up to aggravation.

Thanks,
John

boz130 04-16-2007 05:10 PM

Send a PM to Lifesaver...Brother Andy can help you out.

dever860 04-17-2007 02:58 AM

Fortunately I could not fall asleep this morning so I went back to work on some of my side projects. After catching up on some very old Cross and crescent articles, I stumbled upon the LCA flickr album and started browsing their coat of arm's images. The tag Mike Mahoney popped up with a picture titled Coat of Arms prototype. Quick search of google led me to this:
http://www.fraternitymanuals.com/ind...AGC_2006_Aug_9

The minutes of the LXA Graphics committee.
http://pdf.crossandcrescent.com/graphics/mahoney/
This is a direct link to the amazing images these artists have done on our "new" coat of arms. I feel I should point out that these were all created in vector, which for any computer graphics literate people is a lossless format. Meaning the illustrator files can be stretched to any size without losing quality.

I should probably note that these all are still prototypes, but all are coat of arms none the less. I cant decide which one I like more. Jeff Reisdorfer's 4th gen COA looks very nice IMO. I think its the white letters. Very Sharp.


Thanks for all that helped. I need to stay up late more often to get things done.

In ZAX,
John Dever
GT1111

Trey_P-I_47 04-17-2007 12:11 PM

Dever,

When I click on the second link i get to page that asks for an access user name and password........what do I need to do to look at these CoAs

dever860 04-17-2007 12:34 PM

Apparently someone noticed that they were posted here I guess... Luckily I saved most of them.

le996 04-17-2007 12:45 PM

dever, do you have access to a web server so that you can share with the rest of us? I'm in the process of redoing our chapters website and coulde make great use of a decent coat of arms!

Tom Earp 04-17-2007 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dever860 (Post 1431065)
Apparently someone noticed that they were posted here I guess... Luckily I saved most of them.

Do you have a link that you can put up?

em-Matt sent me a bigger form 25 with all of the UF Brothers signing and is hangin the house of LX Z!.


Good luck! Let us know!:)

dever860 04-17-2007 04:25 PM

I have no problem hosting a copy of the COA, but if someone at nationals specifically took the site down because they don't anyone to see it yet, I am hesitant. I am a youngin when dealing with these kind of matters, so please educate me. The last thing I need is to burn bridges with Nationals.

I am surprised that they decided to restrict public material that was posted on their public fraternity manuals website. It was all directly linked and appeared to be for the public, as it was on the committee's minutes for that meeting.

Let me know what you all think.

Tom Earp 04-17-2007 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dever860 (Post 1431255)
I have no problem hosting a copy of the COA, but if someone at nationals specifically took the site down because they don't anyone to see it yet, I am hesitant. I am a youngin when dealing with these kind of matters, so please educate me. The last thing I need is to burn bridges with Nationals.

I am surprised that they decided to restrict public material that was posted on their public fraternity manuals website. It was all directly linked and appeared to be for the public, as it was on the committee's minutes for that meeting.

Let me know what you all think.

No, there is a difference in using it for public usage and among Brothers of LXA.

Using to sell to make money for an individual for profit gain is different tha aiding Brothers.

If it is for monetary gain, then it needs to be registered and fees paid to LXA.

You would still need approval from IHQ to move forward.
They do make the final call on this.

dever860 04-17-2007 04:53 PM

I looked over fraternity manuals again because I was worried that google in its infinite knowledge stumbled upon something hidden, which is is known to do, and the Graphics Committee is clearly listed in the LCA section. Someone even setup a link to all of the new graphics:
http://www.fraternitymanuals.com/ind...hics_Committee

Puzzling as to why it everything was restricted. I wont post it on a websever, but if no one complains otherwise I have no problem emailing to whoever wants it. Let me know if you want a PDF, or illustrator image.

PiLambda1 04-17-2007 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dever860 (Post 1431278)
I looked over fraternity manuals again because I was worried that google in its infinite knowledge stumbled upon something hidden, which is is known to do, and the Graphics Committee is clearly listed in the LCA section. Someone even setup a link to all of the new graphics:
http://www.fraternitymanuals.com/ind...hics_Committee

Puzzling as to why it everything was restricted. I wont post it on a websever, but if no one complains otherwise I have no problem emailing to whoever wants it. Let me know if you want a PDF, or illustrator image.

Doesn't someone have free reign if it's posted on the internet?

dever860 04-18-2007 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PiLambda1 (Post 1431456)
Doesn't someone have free reign if it's posted on the internet?

Technically no... I wont talk about piracy laws because I know thats not that you are referring to. The same basic standards apply to intellectual property.

I thought about it later here is why I wont post those particular files, specifically the illustrator files. The files still have individual layer for each image in the COA, ie. each quarter of the shield, the helmet the lines that make up the rays of light, everything. It would be real easy for someone to go and copy parts of our COA in the digital format and modify it unauthorized, I read the thread about that emo band that was using our COA. I personally wouldn't publish one of my works in that fashion without merging all of the layers so they couldn't be modified individually. Curiously, those images have been up for months to public view. I don't know why now it would be a problem.

I plan on making a canvas COA from one of those images. You have to remember that one of those, there were 3 or 4, will eventually be the "Official" COA. I would say 90% of the COA's i've seen are hand drawn, and custom made, they all vary. The point of the prototypes are to translate the original drawings color, to digital format. Did Cole and Mason MEAN to have that a certain shade of green? Is that supposed to be faded there? True to the original representation as possible in digital format. I do hope at some point when they decide on the new Official COA, they release the other candidates as well. They are all amazing reconstructions.

I will still send them to anyone who wants it as long as they are a known brother. The last thing I want to do is upset the guys working hard at HQ.

John

dever860 04-18-2007 12:31 PM

PS. http://www.largeformatposters.com/canvas-printing.html

Very acceptable prices on canvas printing. They do oversized prints. I had my dimensions worked out yesterday before my power flickered on and off. Going to be something like 30 inches wide by 40 something tall. Only around $50.

Tom Earp 04-18-2007 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dever860 (Post 1431824)
Technically no... I wont talk about piracy laws because I know thats not that you are referring to. The same basic standards apply to intellectual property.

I thought about it later here is why I wont post those particular files, specifically the illustrator files. The files still have individual layer for each image in the COA, ie. each quarter of the shield, the helmet the lines that make up the rays of light, everything. It would be real easy for someone to go and copy parts of our COA in the digital format and modify it unauthorized, I read the thread about that emo band that was using our COA. I personally wouldn't publish one of my works in that fashion without merging all of the layers so they couldn't be modified individually. Curiously, those images have been up for months to public view. I don't know why now it would be a problem.

I plan on making a canvas COA from one of those images. You have to remember that one of those, there were 3 or 4, will eventually be the "Official" COA. I would say 90% of the COA's i've seen are hand drawn, and custom made, they all vary. The point of the prototypes are to translate the original drawings color, to digital format. Did Cole and Mason MEAN to have that a certain shade of green? Is that supposed to be faded there? True to the original representation as possible in digital format. I do hope at some point when they decide on the new Official COA, they release the other candidates as well. They are all amazing reconstructions.

I will still send them to anyone who wants it as long as they are a known brother. The last thing I want to do is upset the guys working hard at HQ.

John

John, I do not think that IHQ will have any problem at all with a Brother doing some thing by a Brother for a Zeta.

They worry about people selling items and not getting a royalty that goes to the IHQ. This helps put money in LXA cofers.

dever860 04-19-2007 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Earp (Post 1431912)
John, I do not think that IHQ will have any problem at all with a Brother doing some thing by a Brother for a Zeta.

They worry about people selling items and not getting a royalty that goes to the IHQ. This helps put money in LXA cofers.

I figured as much, and i'm sure you are right. There are many more knowledgeable in dealing with these matters than I. Im still new to this game.

dever860 04-27-2007 01:15 PM

I'm sure I could find this in the trivia section, Ive seen it listed there before, I need to know the names of all of the current official colors on the coat of arms.

Specifically referencing these:
http://www.lambdachi.org/publication...rs/default.asp

Which do not match these:
http://www.lambdachi.org/publication...lca_sheet2.pdf

The 2007 colors I can confirm are the official colors on the coat of arms that HQ is using from now on.

To get to my point, my mother has offered her time and services to painting a COA for my chapter. Shes going to make a nice large 3 foot by whatever copy. She has talked to the CEO of LCA and they sent her a packet of free stuff on how to go about making one, real nice people over there in Indiana. They gave her what is listed on the first link I posted as the official colors, the hexadecimal color codes. What I need to know is the official name of the new colors, of the pantone color reference, so she can get the specific paint. Apparently you can't find bottles of acrylic paint by its hex or RGB color number. Any help anyone can give on this would be greatly appreciated.

My mother used to do this kinda stuff for my dad, who was a LCA, back in the day. She is very meticulous, and wants to do it perfect, which is probably a good reason why I am not. I would probably give up and just match the color by eye... which is a nono so I have been made very aware of.

In ZAX,
John Dever

Tom Earp 04-27-2007 02:06 PM

I am not sure if to many have noticed, but, the old form (205 or 250 ?) Coat of Arms have changed colors over the years and the number dropped form the printing. They seemed to have paled out.

I know I had a guy who would put letters on polo shirts and caps and I could sell them to Brothers and the money would go to the Zeta, but there did not seem to be enough interest from the feelers I put out. Before I did, I did an okay from IHQ on it.

Yep, there some damn fine Brothers over in Indy!:)

JonoBN41 04-27-2007 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dever860 (Post 1437067)
I would probably give up and just match the color by eye... which is a nono so I have been made very aware of.

Why is that a no no? Sometimes the green used, originally called olive green by Warren Cole, is too dark to read the mottoes on the banners.

I've used a brush on enamel called "Garden Green", which is a nice balance. Comes in a glass jar, by plasti-kote.

Purples are tough. Very easy to get too blue or too red. You want a "royal purple". Might have to play with that one.

dever860 04-27-2007 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonoBN41 (Post 1437202)
Why is that a no no? Sometimes the green used, originally called olive green by Warren Cole, is too dark to read the mottoes on the banners.

I've used a brush on enamel called "Garden Green", which is a nice balance. Comes in a glass jar, by plasti-kote.

Purples are tough. Very easy to get too blue or too red. You want a "royal purple". Might have to play with that one.

No no because I was assured so by my mother, and as long as she is doing the work ill let her be as exact as she wants. I guess the brother she talked to at nationals said for it to be an official COA, the colors have to be perfect to which I responded that I imagine there is a bit of leeway. I dare not question the lady as she is spending a bit of money on this project for me. She is going to call the gentlemen at nationals back and ask for what the exact colors are. "Shrug". I would like them to look like the colors on the prototypes I have, same colors listed on the website. I am not sure if that is possible in the non-digital world.

Ill pass the advice along though, thanks.

Tom Earp 04-27-2007 05:19 PM

MOMs can be tough especially being a Wife of and a Mom of a LXA Brother!

Trust me, jono is good!:)

boz130 04-27-2007 09:30 PM

Send a PM to Lifesaver...he's probably busy w/the end of his semester, but he'll have the official PMS (Pantone Matching System) #'s.

Floridaboyz 05-03-2007 07:30 PM

I need a coat of arms too! I am painting a HUGE COA in our house stairway this summer, and I needed a highly detailed image of our COa to put onto a color transparency to project and copy onto our stairway wall. this will be HUGE, and I need to know how I can get my hands on a detailed COA, whether its a computer image file or an actual copy. If you got a solution, email at zebob14@ufl.edu or just post. thanks bros.

PiLambda1 05-03-2007 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Floridaboyz (Post 1440657)
I need a coat of arms too! I am painting a HUGE COA in our house stairway this summer, and I needed a highly detailed image of our COa to put onto a color transparency to project and copy onto our stairway wall. this will be HUGE, and I need to know how I can get my hands on a detailed COA, whether its a computer image file or an actual copy. If you got a solution, email at zebob14@ufl.edu or just post. thanks bros.

Go here:
http://www.lambdachi.org/publications/graphics/

Download the .tif file that's 5megs

Put it in a powerpoint presentation with white background.
Hook projector into laptop.
Aim at wall.
Run presentation fullscreen.
Trace and paint.
Enjoy.
Rinse.
Repeat.



I just did that process this year for our homecoming banner. It
worked fine. IT would be easier with a decent to high quality
projector. I used STLCOPs and drew on a bedsheet, so it wasn't
so good. But, it could be tweaked to perfection.

GL


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