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33girl 07-31-2006 05:26 PM

UMMM.
 
Check out the crest. :eek:

http://community.livejournal.com/sorority_glam/profile

Really not cool.

Dionysus 07-31-2006 05:45 PM

Ahhhh hell no! :mad:

txdiva 07-31-2006 09:30 PM

What the hell???

Senusret I 07-31-2006 10:02 PM

Someone (who is a livejournal member, preferably) needs to report this to the national office.

I say it should be an LJ member so that they can adequately explain the nature of the site and how it works.

tbdumpsterdiver 07-31-2006 10:25 PM

done. i sent the graphics and the link to the national office.

Sister Havana 08-01-2006 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tbdumpsterdiver
done. i sent the graphics and the link to the national office.

Thank you.

WTF indeed!

naraht 08-01-2006 10:40 PM

Agreed :mad:
 
Count me in for trying to help.

I'm on Livejournal and would be happy to help in any way possible.

The images are at photobucket at
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...inalintro1.jpg and
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...inalintro1.jpg

(Don't know why Delta is capped and kappa not)

BTW, There are *two* real Delta Sigma Chi's, one is a multi-cultural society (www.dsc1996.org) with 4 chapters and 3 colonies, the other a chiropractic honorary (www.deltasigmachi.biz)


Randy

SexySuperstar 08-04-2006 08:38 AM

:eek: You have to be kidding me right???

tbdumpsterdiver 08-04-2006 08:30 PM

i've gotten no response back from national office. should i try again? i think if i do, i'll email everyone...

Virtuous Woman 08-07-2006 10:08 AM

:mad: :mad: :mad:

That's all I can say.

naraht 08-12-2006 10:55 PM

More information on Sorority Glam.
 
I was able to find the IM handle for one of the founders of the Sorority Glam group. I had a very pleasant IM conversation with her for about an hour or so.

Key points.
1)She was willing to change the crest if I wanted to, but I told her not to do that until after I posted to this webboard about it.

2) I was *not* able to put into words *why* this mattered to me, and we really haven't done that good of a job here on the board, and she deserves that

3) The other founder apparently found the crest *scrubbed* of the interior on a board somewhere, I'm going to IM the other founder (probably Monday Night) to see if I can find that out.

4) I gave the Sorority Glam founder the URL for this thread so that she can see what we come up with.

5) She is currently in graduate school to be a Veterinarian. (Did undergrad at a school that has APO, but she wasn't familiar with it)

YiLFS
Randolph Finder

Senusret I 08-13-2006 06:36 AM

I don't understand why we should have to provide reasons for her to not use a trademarked image. And just because it was altered when she found it doesn't make it any less disrespectful to members of this fraternity.

33girl 08-14-2006 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Senusret I
I don't understand why we should have to provide reasons for her to not use a trademarked image. And just because it was altered when she found it doesn't make it any less disrespectful to members of this fraternity.

Rashid, I completely agree.

IT'S OURS AND MEANS SOMETHING TO US, NOT PUBLIC DOMAIN FOR EVERYONE TO USE. I don't know what more she needs to know than that.

tunatartare 08-14-2006 10:56 AM

Since it's a trademarked image, can APO HQ issue a cease and desist? (Not a clue how that works.)

Senusret I 08-14-2006 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KLPDaisy
Since it's a trademarked image, can APO HQ issue a cease and desist? (Not a clue how that works.)


Probably so. I am also not sure how it works, but it definitely looks like trademark infringement or something.

Sister Havana 08-14-2006 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 33girl
Rashid, I completely agree.

IT'S OURS AND MEANS SOMETHING TO US, NOT PUBLIC DOMAIN FOR EVERYONE TO USE. I don't know what more she needs to know than that.

AMEN.

tbdumpsterdiver 08-14-2006 05:47 PM

why does she feel we owe her a reason for taking down something that doesn't belong to her?

and if she's reading this here's why it matters -
Alpha Phi Omega National Service Fraternity was founded in 1925 by 14 illustrious young men who wanted to see a change in the world in which they lived. Since 1925 we have become the nation's largest student service organization and not only exist in the US but around the world. You want to know why this means something? Because it is a visual, emotional and TRADEMARKED image of our Fraternity. Deal with it.

tbdumpsterdiver 08-30-2006 09:44 PM

anybody have any info on why this group still hasn't removed the images from their site?

naraht 08-30-2006 10:27 PM

Largely because I haven't gotten back to her, I guess. I still haven't seen anything in the responses after my further information that I felt was appropriate.

To boil down the responses recently.
"It means something to us, we'll say why even though we know you won't understand it. Remove it and Deal"

Don't you think I had all of the information provided here when I talked to her?
I wasn't expecting more from her, I was expecting more from *us*.

It is funny, one of the things in her crests from ours is the Knight's Helmet. Are we really showing the characteristics that Knight's Helmet means to us?

And to answer the other question, I seriously doubt the national office would spend the money on trying to get a Cease and Desist order. IMO, the money and time that would be spent putting that together could be better spent on other things of greater use to the brothers of the Fraternity.

YiLFS
Randolph Finder

Drolefille 08-30-2006 11:56 PM

Not in APO but what about: it's copyright protected so it's against the law?

Also would contacting livejournal be useful here? I'm not sure about their rules but it could be grounds for removal of their account (or at least the picture)

33girl 08-31-2006 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by naraht
Largely because I haven't gotten back to her, I guess. I still haven't seen anything in the responses after my further information that I felt was appropriate.

To boil down the responses recently.
"It means something to us, we'll say why even though we know you won't understand it. Remove it and Deal"

Don't you think I had all of the information provided here when I talked to her?
I wasn't expecting more from her, I was expecting more from *us*.

It is funny, one of the things in her crests from ours is the Knight's Helmet. Are we really showing the characteristics that Knight's Helmet means to us?

And to answer the other question, I seriously doubt the national office would spend the money on trying to get a Cease and Desist order. IMO, the money and time that would be spent putting that together could be better spent on other things of greater use to the brothers of the Fraternity.

YiLFS
Randolph Finder

Randy - I think what supercedes all of that, or anything we said, is that it's TRADEMARKED by us. We don't have to get into a big emotional thing to justify telling her to get rid of it, she's doing something wrong in the eyes of the law, period.

There was a "tri delta" community on LJ that was NOT made up of actual Tri Deltas - it was some high school girls thinking it was cute to use the name. Tri Delta managed to get it off LJ. They weren't about to just blow it off.

naraht 08-31-2006 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 33girl
Randy - I think what supercedes all of that, or anything we said, is that it's TRADEMARKED by us. We don't have to get into a big emotional thing to justify telling her to get rid of it, she's doing something wrong in the eyes of the law, period.

There was a "tri delta" community on LJ that was NOT made up of actual Tri Deltas - it was some high school girls thinking it was cute to use the name. Tri Delta managed to get it off LJ. They weren't about to just blow it off.

The emotional thing was what was getting me the most. As for whether it is enough of the crest to be a Trademark violation, I'm not sure. I'll ask her to go ahead and redo it the next time I see her on IM.


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