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Worst Hazing Stories ever heard about.
Tell those pesky hazing stories that you "heard" occurred in "other" chapters: I had a "friend" who had to go to an olympic social wearing a speedo.
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remake this thread in the risk management section.
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Some of the best stuff I hear is from my dad. He's a Phi Kappa Sigma from Oklahoma U, and was active back in the early/mid 60's. They used to be one of the top chapters on campus. These days, I'm aware that they exist, but I never hear anything about them, except that they are one of dozens of small to mid sized chapters on OU's campus.
1) Their pledge trainer had been to Vietam and was back. He was unpopular with his pledges. They kidnapped him one night, threw him in the trunk, and drove out to the middle of nowhere. They left him handcuffed to an oil rig in his underwear. They have no idea how he got back, but when he did, he withdrew from school. 2) Rumor has it, they burned down the SAE house. 3) Chinese fire drill -- actives mixed up a bowl of random stuff in the kitchen. It was designed to be the most terrible thing you've put in your mouth. A fire was lit outside. The pledges had to put out the fire by taking a mouthful of the substance and spitting it out on the fire. Apparently, the most effective way to put the fire out is to take a mouthful of the stuff, and try to hold the vomit back until you get to the fire. 4) Random beatings of actives and pledges alike. The pledges versus actives "flag" football game did involve some broken bones. -- and I'm pretty sure all of this was legal back then. (except for #2, but that might not have had anything to do with pledging, and no one is sure exactly who did it, except that it was most likely a Phi Kap). |
I heard that faulty wiring burned the old SAE house down. I've seen the newspaper clipping in their house now.
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The stories from those days are hilarious though -- and there's probably a little embellishment to go along with them. |
I was forced to kill and eat 28 of my 31 pledge brothers.
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Well, the cannabilism was the first choice offered, and I jumped on it. Turns out the other three were forced to go to Orlando and become Golden Knights. I figure I made out much, much better.
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It was actually a bottle of Bodega Norton Reserve Malbec, 2003
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were you provided with a complementing sauce or marinade?
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Of course. Blood. Oh and a lemon curry reduction
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So basically, what I'm hearing, is that you got a nice meal out of it. Hardly seems like hazing to me.
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My Dad tells me that back in the early 1960's a lot of the really gross hazing stories had their basis in truth but were designed to get the pledge class to pull together and refuse the task as a group. The idea was to demand that the pledges, or one pledge chosen by the class to represent them all, would be told to do something really unpleasant or even absolutely unacceptable. The idea was for the pledges to figure out where the line was drawn between unpleasant but acceptable (like scrubbing out a latrine with a tooth brush) and something unacceptable (like having sex with a dead dog). The class was supposed to figure out that 1. they needed to stand together in their decision, and 2. they needed to refuse to do something morally or philosophically repugnant. One was supposed to be bright enough to realize that no fraternity would want to initiate either a dead dog f****r or one who was so spineless as to go along with something like that. If some poor pledge agreed to do the deed he would be seperated from the pledge class and told to consider his choice carefully. If he still didn't catch on he might be told and ribbed about it for the rest of his life or he might be invited to depledge to save being blackballed at the next ball session.
Tough way to go but it did bring about pledge unity and teach a lesson of how to cooperate without being blindly obedient in unacceptable circumstances. "Think it through to its logical consequences" was always impressed on the victims, er... pledges. |
Oh this is good stuff!! :D Please carry on!!
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I keep reading this and wonder Why?:rolleyes:
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Now this one is real, and is one of my favorites...you make the pledges do a work call (or a extended period of house work, for people unfamiliar), one that starts at about 10 or midnight. So you have them clean the house, scrub the floors with toothbrushes, etc etc, everything but the bathrooms. Then you call them all together at about 5am, tell them they've done a good job, and explain to them you're buying breakfast. They'll be relieved and excited about this, they probably think you're proud of them and that the work is over, plus they are probably hungry. Get all the food ready or whatnot, show it to them, and tell them they get to eat in 30 minutes when the bathrooms are spotless. Finally, about 5 minutes before their time is up, tell them to clean faster and better, seeing as their gonna be eating their mcdonalds breakfast off the floor behind the toilet they're currently cleaning. Then you make them do it, of course.
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dekeguy's post is a perfect example of what "hazing" is meant to do. how the hell is that so wrong?
i still havent heard anything that would strike me as being incredibly awful. ive done almost all that has been listed |
Just read some of the Hazing Creates a Sense of Unity thread and you will see how insane some of the peoples ideas concerning hazing are.
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Sretakson.......
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That is the only Golden Knight that I know of....... |
None of these are that bad.
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Pledges strip down to their boxers and sit indian style against a wall. Then an industrial-size fan is brought in and turned on. Brothers tear up pieces of insulation and run it through the back of the fan. Fiberglass in skin. Its a story i heard....dont know if its actually true but the source was very trustworthy and that certain chapter had a "hardcore" reputation.
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I think a case could be made that this would be a case of assault.
If it's true, I hope nobody lost his eyesight. Stupid. |
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At any rate, it's not battery if it is consented to. Many state laws make this behavior something which cannot be consented to (you cannot consent to an illegal act), but not all states do this. /prosser & keeton But yeah, stupid is a word that comes to mind. |
You're right. The consent part is interesting. I wasn't aware of that.
Thanks. |
OK. Here's my contributions: two of the worst hazings I ever saw, neither of them involved physical hazing.
I travelled for my national, and I enjoyed visiting other fraternities to get ideas and get a feel for the campus. I visited the Kappa Sigs at one school. The guys were very friendly to me, good hosts. While I was in the living room, pledges were busy all around, fixing things, cleaning, getting yelled at by the brothers. One offered to shine my shoes. It was March so I just assumed this was the spring pledge class going through hell week. The brothers explained to me that, no, this was the fall pledge class. They had started with twenty something and were now down to fifteen pledges. "We've said all along we were only going to intitiate twelve," they said. "We let them eliminate themselves. When we're down to twelve, we'll initiate." That was the first one. The second incident was at the SAE house on another campus. Again, the guys were great to me. They bragged about one of their chapter traditions they thought was really funny in addition to being useful in disciplining the pledge class. "Every rush we make a point of pledging one marginal guy who shouldn't be here," they said. "He's the sacrifice, the example. At some point usually around the end of the semester we'll blackball him and scare hell out of the pledges. It really shapes them up." |
..........and how are those bad stories?? Thats the way it is.
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Most of the stories here don't strike me all that bad either. If this were not a public forum, I would have some to share. There are creative ways to do some really crazy stuff without alcohol, nudity or physical danger being involved. And it is the stuff that makes for good stories later for those who endured it.
But I gotta say, the whole thing about taking a guy you know in advance you are going to blackball really sucks. A good pledgemaster doesn't need to blackball a pledge to keep the others in line. If a house needs to pledge guys who they intend to blackball- that is a sign they don't know how to keep control of their pledges. But back on point- the worst hazing incident. The worst one I know of (and that I know to have actually happened even though it was not my house) is actually not that bad in the grand scheme of things- but it was just so freakin' stupid and dumb because it made the 2 pledges and the house look really bad. A few years ago at UGA, two fraternity pledges were forced to hold hands and walk the full length of Milledge Avenue (where many of the fraternities and almost all of the sororities are located) and then walk down Baxter from Milledge to the UGA campus and back (a major thoroughfare with lots of traffic.) And one of the pledges was wearing the chapter's letters when they did this. That was just about the dumbest thing I have ever heard. |
Lost Bet
In the early days of the internet, someone there posted a link to a page on "Dear Lucie" (www.lucie.com), which is a Dear Abby type site for young adults. I printed the page out and today, while going through a stack of old papers, I came across it. It was posted, I think, in 1999. I went to lucie.com and didn't find it in the archives,
PART I Dear Lucie--I have a very unusual problem and would appreciate any help you can give me. I am a freshman at a university and a member of a sorority. Recently we participated in a charity fund-raiser with several other sororities. To encourage more competition we made a pact that the sorority raising the least money would shave the head of one of its members. Although I did not like the idea, I went along with it. I don't really think most of us took the bet very seriously. We lost, and to choose who was to be shorn, we drew from a deck of cards to see who would get the lowest one. Well, I drew a "two!" Now everyone is excited about it; even the girls in my own house think it is a neat thing to do. They claim this was done several years ago and the girl looked great without hair. I think it is just because I have very long beautiful hair and many people are jealous of it and want me to cut it off. (My hair is blonde and 21 inches long). I can't stand the thought of being bald. Everyone says I will look great, even without hair. Even my boyfriend, who adores long hair, doesn't seem to mind! He says he will still love me even if I don't have any hair. He agrees that I will look great. (My parents don't know about this yet. I can't possibly tell them I'm going to be shaved. I did tell my older sister and she was horrified and says I should not do it even if I have to give up the sorority. We are very close and I value her opinion, but I feel trapped into this. I don't want to quit the sorority because I have many friends here). We are having a big party with the other sororities after Spring Break and that is when they are going to do it. Yesterday they bought an electric hair clipper, razor, and a can of shaving cream, so I know they are serious. One of the girls told me today that they are going to ride me around campus in a convertible after the shave so everyone can see me. Lucie, I know it is just hair, and will grow back, and I know I was foolish to go along with the bet, but I just can't stand the thought of losing my hair. There is no way I can tell you how upset I am over this. Most of the girls in the house read your column and pay attention to what you say. If there is anything you can suggest which will change their minds, I will forever be grateful to you. Upset Dear Upset--Your letter is long, but I wanted to publish it so my reply will be brief. In addition, it will be directed mostly to your sorority sisters. Every girl in every sorority who took time to raise money for charity deserves praise not punishment--cheers not jeers. I feel sure that if these charities were aware of these plans, they would strongly oppose them. As far as your sister not wanting her hair shorn, this is more than just a vanity issue. This demoralizing technique has been used throughout history. I have no problem with healthy competition, but I feel this is too much. You are putting this girl in a terrible bind: she must choose between you her "sisters" and suffering embarrassment for some time to come. What is the point? How many of you feel that the idea is so harmless that you are willing to fall in line behind her. What do you pledge to each other as sisters? PART II Dear Lucie- A couple of years ago I wrote to you for advice and I do not believe I ever wrote to thank you for your response. You may not recall, but the sorority of which I am a member lost a contest, and the penalty was to shave the head of one of the members and I was selected. I did not want to have my long blond hair cut off and did not know what to do. I still have your reply in my scrapbook. I want to let you know what finally happened. The sorority did not want to call it off. Therefore, unbelievably, one of my best friends volunteered to be shaved in my place. Her hair was almost as long as mine. I could not let her take my place, so I let them shave me. Before the event I confided in my parents, and to my surprise they agreed I should do it. They were supportive all through it. At the time of the shave another of my friends offered to be shaved to. So all three of us were shaved together. My hair has now grown long again, and I am going to let it keep growing until it either stops or gets down to the floor. I learned several lessons, which I would like to share with you: *don’t be afraid to get advice *Stick to your commitments. People will respect you. (Very few people made fun of us while we were bald). *Value your friends and pick them carefully. (Frankly, I doubt if I would have volunteered to take anyone's place). *Trust and confide in your parents, mine were great. *Don't get yourself into things you don't want to go through with. *Make the best of bad situations. (Even though the actual shearing was the worst experience of my life, we still managed to have fun bald. Most people said we were still pretty). *Finally, you can survive almost anything, even being slick bald! Therefore, even though you could not save my hair, you tried and that is what counts. Thanks a million, Lucie. A Friend P.S. I kept before and after photos to remind myself. They took off my hair with clippers, put lather all over my head, and shaved me again with a razor. It was horrible and humiliating at the same time, but I'm glad I went through with it. Dear Friend- Thanks so much for the update on your dilemma. I have often wondered what the long and short of such a hair-raising experience was. Seriously, your advice is great and can be applied to ANY of life's situations. I appreciate your kind words and your taking the time to share. |
Untenable
This is not a hazing story, of course, but the young woman in the account was a freshman. Her experience was both positive and negative for her. I have no idea whether the story is true. I personally feel what the young woman endured (if the story is true) was untenable.
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I have lived in several college towns (cities). I have lived in university communities. I have never heard or seen anything like this. I know of no sorority that would inflict this horrible humiliation on a member. Sisters might sponsor a so-called charity head shave, but no one would humiliate a sister in front of other sororities or within their own chapter. I recall another story from a newspaper advice column where members of a chapter sheared a W onto the head of pledge who dated the boyfriend of a member of the chapter. That might have happened. However, again, no one has ever documented such a case. |
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Incorrect Image
Stories such as this one about a forced head shave perpetuate negative images about Greeks. For four decades, I have heard these stories. I rarely hear any documentation or testimony to support them.
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Ok, but was it really hazing? This wasn't an active vs. new member thing. It seems all members of the sorority could have been up on the chopping block...
I'm not really supporting this, but the chapter shouldn't have made a commitment if it wasn't ok with following through (and maybe this girl didn't speak up at a meeting or something) |
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