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Scandia 06-25-2006 11:33 AM

Misconceptions about GLOs
 
What are the biggest misconceptions about GLOs- especially those that result in negative attitudes.

The biggest one I have seen is that joining a sorority or fraternity is "buying your friends". In my freshman year of college, I developed an interest in them. This was even before joining A Phi O. I asked various friends of mine if they were in a GLO and they would say "No! That's buying your friends". And recently I asked my brother why did he never show interest in joining a fraternity. And he said it was because it was "buying your friends" and that he could get friends for free.

Another very sad one is that only a certain kind of person joins social GLOs. I asked one girl in A Phi O if she had gone to sorority rush. And she replied "No! I'm not that kind of person!". I still do not know if she meant the stereotype- but social sororities are not homogeneous. And a co-worker who saw my shirt with my Greek letters asked me surprisedly if I was in a sorority. I explained to her that A Phi O was a service fraternity. I assumed her surprise was because I certainly do not fit the stereotype and have very unique interests. But when I asked her if she had belonged to one, she was like "omigosh no" as if she did not think all that much of them and did not want to be in one because of that.

And another one is the "those are rich girl's longings" (I'm trying to translate from Spanish). That it is a superfluous wanting for rich girls- and thus possibly implying it was just for spoiled girls using their parents' credit card who perhaps just wanted to catch a rich husband and shop all day long and never do anything nice for anyone else.

Very inaccurate misconceptions indeed.

DSTRen13 06-25-2006 11:47 AM

My little sister is starting college in the fall, and my little brother (SigEp) and I hear these things from her a lot. (She's very disappointed in her boyfriend because he plans to rush ... :rolleyes: ) We're the only two Greek members of our family, and everyone thinks the whole thing is beyond bizarre and completely pointless. They're quite hardcore about it ...

ETA: My aunt and cousin very firmly believe that all sorority girls will not leave their dorms/apartments/homes without full makeup and perfectly coordinated outfits. I've met people like this, but fewer than half of them were in sororities ...

flirt5721 06-25-2006 11:57 AM

One of the biggest misconceptions that I have come across are

1) All sorority and fraternity member do is drink and party. Every one (especially the guys in the EE building) think I'm a big drinker and I'm usally a DD even though I'm 21.

2) If a girl a virgin when she signs her bid, she will not be one by initiation. (I really hate this one. I think its one of the worst)

3) Buying your friends (But I also tell them that they have bought some of their friends because they pay to go to school and they wouldn't have met those friends otherwise)

4) Naked pillow fight or a lot of girl on girl action (Why do boys insisit that this true? )

Tom Earp 06-25-2006 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by flirt5721
One of the biggest misconceptions that I have come across are

1) All sorority and fraternity member do is drink and party. Every one (especially the guys in the EE building) think I'm a big drinker and I'm usally a DD even though I'm 21.

2) If a girl a virgin when she signs her bid, she will not be one by initiation. (I really hate this one. I think its one of the worst)

3) Buying your friends (But I also tell them that they have bought some of their friends because they pay to go to school and they wouldn't have met those friends otherwise)

4) Naked pillow fight or a lot of girl on girl action (Why do boys insisit that this true? )


This is so right!:(

But, no one actually sees what is done by Greeks over all and what is gained by them as Members.

The ones who say they pay for friendships of a Greek Organization are under a blanket and their head in the sand.

I have been lucky enough to never have bought friendships as a Founder and still to this day keep in contqact with many Brothers from My # to a lot higher #'s.

I have also met so many Friends from G C from other Organizations who are neat people and want to be sure to call them Friends.

The learning of cooperation, running, working side by side with My fellow Members is something that I have never forgotten in 41 Years.

I learned so much more doing what I did with MY Organization that it is hard to explain!

One thing that sticks in My mind is not being able to speak in front of people.

I had to learn! I did learn!:)

As one goes on, it is nice to find Brothers/Sisters who if they need help can depend on fellow members.

Sister Havana 06-25-2006 01:41 PM

I've gotten the "buying your friends" thing quite a bit. Never mind that almost every other organization there is has some sort of dues/fees for activities/whatever. It's only GLOs that get that comment.

And don't forget all women in sororities are evil snobby bitches who are only in school for the MRS degree and all guys in fraternities are drunks and rapists.

Tom Earp 06-25-2006 01:48 PM

If that is the case, then why are All Greek GPAs higher than the Avg.?

Evil Snobby Bitches?

No, they just find a common ground to bond with! They have many things in common.:)

They learn how to lead, work with, get better grades and have a better perspective when they graduate!:D

They are not Lab Rats who are taught to go through the maze.

LaneSig 06-25-2006 06:17 PM

Biggest misconceptions:

#1 Buying friends.

#2 Members of GLOs can only/will only speak to people in their own houses or other GLOs. They do not associate or deal with independents.


These are they misconceptions I dislike the most.

shinerbock 06-25-2006 06:25 PM

Well, in response to paying for my friends, I generally say either its because A) I can afford to, or B) its not true, because I hang out with people in other fraternities and sororities as well...

All seriousness aside...I don't like the image that all fraternity guys are drunk idiots who grunt and rape girls. Granted, we're quite good at drinking, but we're generally gentleman and enjoy hanging out at a classy bar or at the golf course more than crushing cans on our head or tossing kegs around.

Another one, kinda different, is the image of "fratty" that is going around. Whats most annoying is when like urban campuses have fratty parties and such, where people cock their hat to the side, pop their abercrombie polo, etc...Somehow dressing nicely got mixed with more city/ghetto dress, which is weird. In my experience, fraternity guys collars are rarely popped (unless it happened on the boat), our shirts are brooks brothers, not abercrombie, and our khakis are pleated, not cargo. I know that probably sounds snobby, its just annoying when I see a picture of some fratastic theme party which should have been entitled "Jersey Shore theme party."

honeychile 06-25-2006 08:45 PM

I've heard all of the above more than I care to think about, but one stands out: the naked pillow fights.

I once told my then-fiance & his non-greek friends that, in four years of college, I never once took place in a pillow fight, let alone a naked one. When I said that, the one guy said, "Oh, come on! We need something to fantasize about!"

So, it's become a standard joke: "Yes, we took Quota and made Total and had the Homecoming Queen, and yes, still found time for our nightly naked pillow fights!" :rolleyes: Sometimes, making fun like that makes for better relations.

Jimmy Choo 06-25-2006 09:55 PM

I have heard all of these sterotypes I can't stand hearing them! I too have also be wearing letters and had people seem to me "You don't seem like the sorority girl type." That really irks me! I gained so much from having been active thru the leadership postions that I held. It was the best decision I ever made! :)

shinerbock 06-25-2006 10:33 PM

haha, yeah right, like naked pillow fights don't happen.

DSTCHAOS 06-26-2006 08:09 AM

I don't see anything wrong with people using their GLO to make associations (some of which may turn into friendships)--that is one of our purposes.

I always thought it was dumb for people to say "without XYZ, you all wouldn't know each other and/or be friends."

Well...maybe not, but DUHHHHH.

Some people wouldn't be friends if they hadn't gone to the same undergrad...or worked at the same job...or gone to the same church...or both volunteered for the Urban League...or known the same person who hooked them up with each other. Does that make all of these other social outlets or organizations a bad thing, too? :rolleyes:

Scandia 06-26-2006 08:41 AM

In no way does that make social outlets or organizations a bad thing in any way. While some people are super duper sociable and make friends everywhere, most people do meet their friends through clubs and activities they join.

I think the people who talk about "buying your friends" refer specifically to the high costs of belonging to a social GLO that has a house. At my undergrad university, due to the big houses, the sororities could get very expensive (not sure about the fraternities). Many organizations do not have a fee for joining. And some non-social GLOs may have smaller dues- such as A Phi O. I do not know what the same people would have said about "buying your friends" or "rich girl's longings" at a school that did not have Greek housing or where Greeks were housed in specific residence hall floors or the sort.

DSTCHAOS 06-26-2006 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Scandia
In no way does that make social outlets or organizations a bad thing in any way. While some people are super duper sociable and make friends everywhere, most people do meet their friends through clubs and activities they join.

Precisely...

Adelphean 06-26-2006 02:49 PM

My standard reply to buying my friends is;

At least I bought the best.

JenMarie 06-26-2006 03:23 PM

I get the "you don't look like the sorority girl type" saying as well.

And then ever famous "You were in a local? That's not an actual sorority!"

macallan25 06-26-2006 04:10 PM

I don't like the image that has been thrown around of dressing fratty. I absolutely hate seeing pictures of Northern/Jersey trash and douchebag Californians that have albums for their "fratty" theme parties. Everyone in the picture wears three popped collared shirts, cargo shorts, and some kind of faggoty bracelet. Sorry, but down South we wear Brooks Brothers, pleated khakis, and Seersucker. There is nothing gentlemanly about Abercrombie and ripped up Hollister.

Adelphean 06-26-2006 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by macallan25
I don't like the image that has been thrown around of dressing fratty. I absolutely hate seeing pictures of Northern/Jersey trash and douchebag Californians that have albums for their "fratty" theme parties. Everyone in the picture wears three popped collared shirts, cargo shorts, and some kind of faggoty bracelet. Sorry, but down South we wear Brooks Brothers, pleated khakis, and Seersucker. There is nothing gentlemanly about Abercrombie and ripped up Hollister.


What part of the south are you from? B/c in Tennessee many of our boys wear the "fratty" look. And I can honestly say I have NEVER seen a fraternity member wear pleated khakis to anything important. Flatfront khakis, yes. Pleated khakis... only for 80's date party.

Drolefille 06-26-2006 05:10 PM

When people say "you don't seem like the sorority type" I tell them, "I didn't think I was either." I only rushed because my mom wanted me to and was I surprised that it wasn't at all like I thought it was.

I wouldn't trade my sisters for anything and it's funny to think that I told my mom "Fine, I'll do it, it's your thirty bucks" :D

DSTCHAOS 06-26-2006 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by exlurker
Tom, while we tend to mention "all-Greek averages," and are happy to mention chapters with high GPAs, we may need to remember that on any given campus not every individual Greek, and not every chapter, is necessarily achieving GPAs higher than the all-men's, all-women's, or all undergrad average. We probably should try to be realistic in how much we claim for Greek academic success and emphasis on scholarship.


That is very true.

I always tell people not to paint with such a broad brush. There's a diversity of people in all of our organizations so the outcome will be as diverse.

macallan25 06-26-2006 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Adelphean
What part of the south are you from? B/c in Tennessee many of our boys wear the "fratty" look. And I can honestly say I have NEVER seen a fraternity member wear pleated khakis to anything important. Flatfront khakis, yes. Pleated khakis... only for 80's date party.

I go to Texas....and I have been to parties at University of Tennessee and spent a considerable amount of time at Ole Miss, Alabama, Georgia, etc. and hardly ever see flat front khakis. Where in the world do you get that pleated khakis were only instyle in the 80's. But I suppose if you consider vertical striped shirts and Bannana Republic fratty....then you would think flat front khakis are acceptable.

shinerbock 06-26-2006 10:41 PM

People need to understand that when people refer to "southern fraternities" they are usually only referring to the large SEC schools and several in Texas. There are probably a few others such as W & L, but the smaller state universities are not what we're talking about. I'm actually not sure why this is, that smaller state schools don't adopt southern greek traditions, but it seems to be the case. Perhaps they simply do not have the tradition that their larger counterparts do.

honeychile 06-26-2006 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock
haha, yeah right, like naked pillow fights don't happen.

Far be it from me to disallow your fantasies!















But they only happen after the meetings are over, and all of our pearls are safely put away!

JonInKC 06-27-2006 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Adelphean
My standard reply to buying my friends is;

At least I bought the best.

You should have said:

"I've seen your friends. You get what you pay for."

shinerbock 06-27-2006 12:29 PM

I don't buy my friends, I lease them.

tunatartare 06-27-2006 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock
I don't buy my friends, I lease them.

makes me think of the song from RENT
now I know that they meant it, when they said you can buy love, now I now you can rent it...

shinerbock 06-27-2006 12:44 PM

525,600 minutes.

tunatartare 06-27-2006 12:52 PM

Seasons of Looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooove

BobbyTheDon 06-27-2006 02:07 PM

one misconception I had was that greek life in college was all about partying, boozin, and women. Thank god I was wrong and did community service, paid dues to do community service and did only homework.


ohhhhh hhhhwaaait...:) nevermind.


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