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jessXIca 06-23-2006 01:05 AM

"Frat"
 
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AlphaFrog 06-23-2006 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ucfpnm
but is the term "frat" as an adjective considered just as annoying?


Yes. As are certain threads.

Denise_DPhiE 06-23-2006 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog
Yes. As are certain threads.

LMAO at 7am. Spills coffee on keyboard. :p

DeltAlum 06-23-2006 09:15 AM

It's a legitimate question that I don't recall having seen before.

As past threads on the word "frat" have shown, this is a matter of personal preference.

I don't like the word used in any manner -- but a lot of people aren't bothered by it at all.

I have always used "fraternity" to describe a group, a house, a man (or woman since most sororities actually consider themselves fraternities), a party or whatever the word is used with.

I'm really not crazy about the word "fratty."

But, that's only my opinion.

33girl 06-23-2006 09:16 AM

"Frat" as a noun, verb, or adjective is trashy and vulgar. Don't use it unless you want to sound uneducated and low class.

valkyrie 06-23-2006 12:35 PM

"Frat" doesn't bother me at all.

PiKA2001 06-23-2006 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by valkyrie
"Frat" doesn't bother me at all.


Thats because you're frat-tastic

SmartBlondeGPhB 06-23-2006 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl
"Frat" as a noun, verb, or adjective is trashy and vulgar. Don't use it unless you want to sound uneducated and low class.

Agreed.

valkyrie 06-23-2006 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by PiKA2001
Thats because you're frat-tastic

TRUE.

ladygreek 06-23-2006 01:58 PM

In the NPHC world the term frat is perfectly acceptable and is commonly used.

AlphaFrog 06-23-2006 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ladygreek
In the NPHC world the term frat is perfectly acceptable and is commonly used.


But isn't that really only used between brothers?? A Kappa wouldn't use "frat" for an Alpha, right?

33girl 06-23-2006 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog
But isn't that really only used between brothers?? A Kappa wouldn't use "frat" for an Alpha, right?

Yes. That would be like me calling an AST sister without saying "Panhellenic" in front of it.

You are right ladygreek, but I didn't want to confuse the OP as she's not talking about NPHC groups. And I really didn't want her to walk up to an Alpha or Kappa and say "Hey frat boy!"

AlphaFrog 06-23-2006 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl
And I really didn't want her to walk up to an Alpha or Kappa and say "Hey frat boy!"

Well, I bet she'd never say it again after THAT kind of experience.

ladygreek 06-23-2006 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog
But isn't that really only used between brothers?? A Kappa wouldn't use "frat" for an Alpha, right?

Maybe. For example they might say "My cousin is one of your frat." Or "what does your frat have planned for Greek Week?"

The guys say frat. The ladies say soror.

ladygreek 06-23-2006 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl
Yes. That would be like me calling an AST sister without saying "Panhellenic" in front of it.

You are right ladygreek, but I didn't want to confuse the OP as she's not talking about NPHC groups. And I really didn't want her to walk up to an Alpha or Kappa and say "Hey frat boy!"

He would be more offended by the word boy than the word frat. To us frat is just a shortened term for fraternity or fraternity brother: nothing more, nothing less.

ladygreek 06-23-2006 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl
You are right ladygreek, but I didn't want to confuse the OP as she's not talking about NPHC groups. And I really didn't want her to walk up to an Alpha or Kappa and say "Hey frat boy!"

By the same token, I wouldn't want the OP to hear NPHC orgs using it and thinking we are uneducated and low-class.:rolleyes:

sigmadiva 06-23-2006 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ladygreek
He would be more offended by the word boy than the word frat. To us frat is just a shortened term for fraternity or fraternity brother: nothing more, nothing less.


To add to this, in the NPHC fraternity brothers also call each other 'Frater' as we in the sororities call each other Soror.

Drolefille 06-23-2006 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by sigmadiva
To add to this, in the NPHC fraternity brothers also call each other 'Frater' as we in the sororities call each other Soror.

SigmaDiva, or other NPHC members, may I ask the origin of this? Just the use of the Latin? Or is it something I can't know?

sigmadiva 06-23-2006 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille
SigmaDiva, or other NPHC members, may I ask the origin of this? Just the use of the Latin? Or is it something I can't know?


I'm going to guess it is based in Latin to indicate 'brother' as Soror is 'sister' in Latin. Other than that, I really can't tell you why they use Frater because I really don't know each org's specific reason. :o :)

Drolefille 06-23-2006 04:19 PM

Thanks. I'm just interested in the difference. I know that we say sister and you say soror and it means the same thing to each of us but I wasn't sure why. At least you've confirmed a bit of that :)

Sailboat Sis 06-23-2006 04:24 PM

You wouldn't call your country a c*nt, therefore you would never call your fraternity a frat.

Drolefille 06-23-2006 04:29 PM

That logic is faulty... i know the point you're making... but it would be calling your country a "count" which we all know is either a verb or an aristocratic title. Not necessarily a bad thing ;)

sigmadiva 06-23-2006 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille
Thanks. I'm just interested in the difference. I know that we say sister and you say soror and it means the same thing to each of us but I wasn't sure why. At least you've confirmed a bit of that :)

No problem. :) When I was in the process of joining my org I became very interested too in why certain terms were used and what they mean.

DSTCHAOS 06-23-2006 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog
But isn't that really only used between brothers??

No. They are all in "frats" although they are not all "frat."

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog
A Kappa wouldn't use "frat" for an Alpha, right?

He wouldn't call an Alpha "frat" but some say "frater."

Either way, and the point that ladygreek was making, "frat" and "frats" don't hold a negative connotation in the NPHC.

Drolefille 06-23-2006 04:58 PM

It's not universal in the NIC/IFC. On our campus most guys didn't care, though only one pulled the "Country/Fraternity" line :rolleyes: They mostly used the term themselves considering nothing more than an abbreviation in every day usage.

DSTRen13 06-23-2006 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by PiKA2001
Thats because you're frat-tastic

Ugggggh. My brother says that. In all seriousness. All the time. It is so painful. :(

Anyway, I don't really see what the big deal is with "frat", but I try not to say it because you never know who it is a big deal to.

adpiucf 06-23-2006 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille
That logic is faulty... i know the point you're making... but it would be calling your country a "count" which we all know is either a verb or an aristocratic title. Not necessarily a bad thing ;)

Awesome!

Tom Earp 06-23-2006 05:44 PM

There is a big difference between "frats" and Fraters as has been pointed out.

Frat are for boys, and Fraternity is for Men.

Just think if You are a female/male what do You want to be called?;)

If people do not like it, then dont use it!

adpiucf 06-23-2006 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Earp
Just think if You are a female/male what do You want to be called?;)

How about being called by my name?

Drolefille 06-23-2006 05:56 PM

Female.. but only if you pronounce it Fey-ma-lé

Tom Earp 06-23-2006 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by adpiucf
How about being called by my name?


Because, I do not know Your name.

I dont think Your aka is a name, but, I dont want people to know me or who I am.;)

mccoyred 06-24-2006 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by 33girl
Yes. That would be like me calling an AST sister without saying "Panhellenic" in front of it.

You are right ladygreek, but I didn't want to confuse the OP as she's not talking about NPHC groups. And I really didn't want her to walk up to an Alpha or Kappa and say "Hey frat boy!"

Did I missed the part where the OP indicated which group or culture or whatever they were referring to?

AlphaFrog 06-25-2006 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by mccoyred
Did I missed the part where the OP indicated which group or culture or whatever they were referring to?

She's been going on and on in the rush forum about NPC rush, so we all figured that's what she was asking about.

ETA: The reason Sheila didn't want it to seem OK to her is because if she's going through NPC rush at UFC, saying "frat" during rush can and probably will get her dropped from that house.

PM_Mama00 06-25-2006 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog
She's been going on and on in the rush forum about NPC rush, so we all figured that's what she was asking about.

ETA: The reason Sheila didn't want it to seem OK to her is because if she's going through NPC rush at UFC, saying "frat" during rush can and probably will get her dropped from that house.

Why do you keep speaking for others? I saw you do that in the Kappa Delta forum also. Let those people speak for themselves. Maybe Sheila had different reasons other than what you stated.

AlphaFrog 06-25-2006 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by PM_Mama00
Why do you keep speaking for others? I saw you do that in the Kappa Delta forum also. Let those people speak for themselves. Maybe Sheila had different reasons other than what you stated.

If Sheila has a problem with what I said, then as you stated, she can speak for herself, she doesn't need your help. In the other case, I was the one that made the (joking) suggestion, so I told dani what was going on.

Tom Earp 06-25-2006 01:18 PM

So, maybe there unto it self lies the problem?:confused:

DSTCHAOS 06-26-2006 08:04 AM

:D

You all are comical and PM Mama's posts always make me chuckle for some reason. In a good way.

I hope the OP got his/her question answered--from more than one perspective.

MysticCat 06-29-2006 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille
That logic is faulty... i know the point you're making... but it would be calling your country a "count" which we all know is either a verb or an aristocratic title. Not necessarily a bad thing ;)

Thank you!!

Of course, it's also faulty because however offended some may be by "frat," it's not an obscenity, unlike what "you wouldn't call your country . . ."

If I could, I would declare a ban on this supposed analagy. [/soapbox]

Drolefille 06-29-2006 12:36 PM

No, thank you!

The concept is dumb especially when many guys are ok with the term frat.

Generally, I don't use it, but if the guys use it, why not?

amaznsensazn86 06-29-2006 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by PM_Mama00
Why do you keep speaking for others? I saw you do that in the Kappa Delta forum also. Let those people speak for themselves. Maybe Sheila had different reasons other than what you stated.

Stop hating on my white chix AlphaFrog/KlpDaisy/Drolefille/Buttonz. You're just jealous that I will let only them Phillip Moi Wang.


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