Harry Potter Book 7 Spoilers/Speculation
 

Found this information on mugglenet.com, thought we could discuss....:D


Debunked Rumors

Currently, there are a few about Book 7 and below you can find the ones which JKR has debunked.

Character Information
There will be no character named "Icicle," and JK said that she didn't recall saying there ever would be

Dumbledore is not Harry's relative

Harry is not related to Voldemort and he is not related to Salazar Slytherin

Lily Potter is not alive

Lily was not a Death Eater

Crookshanks is not an Animagus

Neville is not the son of Peter Pettigrew

Remus Lupin does not have a twin brother

Petunia is not a Squib

Dumbledore is not Harry/Ron from the future

Mrs Norris/Crookshanks will not be discovered as an Animagus


Plot Information

Harry will not become Minister for Magic

Peter Pettigrew’s silver hand will not kill Lupin

Lupin will not return as a DADA professor

The prophecy refers to Harry, and not in any way to Neville

The final part of the prophecy does not mean Harry has to kill Neville, or vice versa


Other

The title of the book will not be "Harry Potter and the Pyramids of Furmat"

No prequel books are planned (no books before Harry's time at Hogwarts)

"Keeper of the Keys" has no secret meaning

The Sorting Hat is not a horcrux


I have to ask, where do people come up with some of these debunked rumors. :rolleyes:


Confirmation

Each of these points have been confirmed by an official JK Rowling source.

Character Information

We will find out something "incredibly important" about Lily Potter

We will find out who R.A.B. is

We will discover more about Dumbledore's past

We will discover where Snape's loyalties lie.

Something will be revealed about Petunia Dursley, although it will not be that she is a Squib

Viktor Krum will return (World Book Day, 2004 interview)

We will see a reappearance of Dolores Umbridge - "It's too much fun to torture her not to have another little bit more before I finish." (MuggleNet/Leaky Interview)

JKR has said, "There is a character who does manage, in desperate circumstances, to do magic quite late in life, but that is very rare..."


Plot Information

Harry will face Voldemort for the final time

Harry will be attempting to find and destroy Voldemort’s remaining Horcruxes

Harry will return to the Dursleys' during the school vacation, but the magical protection Dumbledore arranged will expire on his 17th birthday when he comes of age

Harry will visit Godric's Hollow

We will discover the reason for Sirius' death, and see a reappearance of the two-way mirror

We will see the wedding of Fleur and Bill Weasley

The fact that Harry "has his mother's eyes" will prove to be an important plot point

At least one character will die


Other

The last word is expected to be "scar," but may change

We will finally learn the full reason why some people become ghosts when they die and others don't

The final chapter, which has already been written, will detail what happens to the characters that survive

There will be no more Quidditch matches



I hate that it has been confirmed that another character is going to die, even though we know from the other books that either Harry or Voldemort has to die. Ugh.


I'm curious what this important secret about Lily is.



Thoughts?

OMG ASUADPi! Perhaps you and I could actually get along!

I LOVE HARRY POTTER BOOKS! I know I am in my twenties, and usualy only children read this stuff. But I just don't care. I get the wet willies over them!

Is Lindsay Lohan going to be in the next movie!?

I'm in my twenties too.

I didn't start reading the books until 2004. I finished books 1-5 in like a month and a half, then had to wait (like everyone else) until book 6 came out.

I doubt Lindsay Lohan would be in the movie, she's not British.

I wish it was already 2007, so OotP movie was out and Book 7 was out!

Let me know if you want his cell phone number. I can also hook you up with his license plate number if you want to get wild.

-Rudey

ASUADPi. You don't have to be British just to be in those movies!


Good news though. Lindsay Lohan did sign on with the next harry potter movie. I am SO excited!

http://www.nbc.com/photos/Late_Night...e/2SNLdq03.jpg

Click here for the link!

www.hollywoodgoosip.com/potter/lohan/2007movie

I'm sad I'm so obsessed...when does it come out...?

I'll be even more sad when it's over, as much as the giant gap between books angers me, it kind of prolongs the excitement.

Great post, very interesting new info!

That's what I read somewhere, that JK only wanted British actors for main roles unless otherwise called for. (Like Viktor Krum).

I am going to be SOOOOO mad if Lindsay Lohan shows up in the Harry Potter movies. I have read numerous times about how JKR only wanted British actors (although she made a couple of exceptions). Apparently Robin Williams and Rosie O'Donnell want to be in the series so bad they offered to do it for free!!!

What I understood was that either JK Rowling or the producers of the series said that they "preferred" British actors, but in no way would an American actor ever appear in the series.

Sounds nifty. I have been listening to the HP books on tape since 2003.

I doubt that Lindsay Lohan would be in an HP movie. Who would she be playing anyway?

I dare say Gabby Delacour if anyone.....

[QUOTE=ASUADPi]
I didn't start reading the books until 2004. I finished books 1-5 in like a month and a half, then had to wait (like everyone else) until book 6 came out.
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I wish I could say that. My family's British so I started the series in 1998 like a month after it came out. And then had to wait almost 2yrs for the next one, and then so on from there. There was nothing like knowing how awesome a book was and dying to read the next one, when everyone else still thought you were crazy for reading a "children's" book. Only cool thing is that I got my high school teacher to read it and she suggested it to our class way before Harry Potter mania caught on. :)

But yeah, waiting is NO fun!

I loved that SNL skit. Especially Horatio Sanz as Hagrid. Classic.

Anyway... I'm anxiously waiting for book 7 to come out.

When?
 

When approximately does the 7th book come out? I am so angry that I know that the only two people who are main characters that are destined to die if the other lives are Valdemort and Harry. So one or the other has to die, but both my sister and I are wondering whether she will stick to her roots and let Harry die off as some kind of a lesson to the younger audience or if she will create the happy- go- lucky/ fairytale "...and they lived happily ever after..." end that we as American are used to. I think she will stick to her roots and have Harry go in a courageous fight just so that the story is not wrapped in a bow and especially because she is getting progressively darker with the continuation of the series.

I think that she will kill Harry so that she won't have any pressure from her readers to write an 8th book of what happens to Harry after Hogwarts.

If she sticks to her roots, then Harry will not die. The Harry Potter series follows the paradigm of fantasy and Quest literature, and the quest must be achieved, which means Voldemort must die.

Harry living, though, doesn't mean living happily ever after -- part of the Quest genre is that achieving the quest does not come without paying a price. Perhaps he will forever bear a scar much deeper than the one on his forehead.

J.K. Rowling has just confirmed that 2 characters will die in the 7th book.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060626/...potter_plot_dc

Oh my god you people are ridiculous! Did any of you bother to click on the link Bobby sent?? You all bought that hook, line, and sinker

...jesus youd think the president died with everyone getting up in arms about Lindsay Lohan being in HP...

So should we start taking guesses on who we think will die?

Or...

Who we don't think will die?


I'll do the latter :D

I don't think the following will die...

1) Harry - I just can't see her killing him but you never can tell
2) Hermoine (so spelled her name wrong, but I'm too lazy to look it up)
3) Snape - just to obvious to kill him
4) Malfoy - we could only be so lucky


Who I thik will die...

1) Voldemort - unless they (as in the characters) figure out some way around the prophecy, basically him or Harry have to die, since I don't think Harry will, obviously it has to be him. (Boy I sound so sad...NOT)
2) Ron - I like Ron, I do, but I can see her killing him off.
3) Lupin



I really think whoever she kills we will be saying "holy shit didn't see that coming"

my money is still on Harry dying

Ron and Hermione will both live... Harry might die as might one of Ron's brothers. Lupin is also a potential dead'un and Snape would only die if it's for a good cause (I believe in Snape!)

Harry has to fight Voldemort alone. That's why Dumbledore had to die. Even with his friends' support the battle is now his.

/my two cents

See I'm not sure about Snape. Part of me wants to believe he's good but the other hand says that he is evil.

If Dumbledore believes in him, that's good enough for me! Dumbledore trusted Snape completely, and I think that he wouldn't have done that without a very good reason.

When he said "Please" I think it was 'please end it quick" not "please don't kill me"

By sticking to her roots, I meant sticking to her origin's roots. Europeans do not usually write children's literature that is dumbed down with happily ever after. Unless they are writing a story that they want to be big in the US. I mean look at the original Grimm Brothers stories. They do not end like the Americanized versions. Also, the Iliad was written to be children's literature. Believe it or not... I hate to think about that book being read by children. It was difficult enough to get through it as an adult.

I also must point out that Harry is always two seconds from dying anyway. If he did not have the help of others, he would already be dead. Killing off Dumbledore was big, at least in my mind, because that was the person who guided him a lot and pushed him in the right directions. The teachers also helped by teaching him what he needed to know to succeed, but if they are truly going off on their own like the book said in the last chapter. Whi is he going to get help from? He is a weak wizard without the help of other knowledgeable people behind him. He just takes their imput and casts it out. Not the smartest. Not the most powerful. However, the book is big here, so he may not die. We shall see.

I got you. And I would pretty much agree, although I might not go so far as to say Europeans as a whole. The "American" versions of many fairy tales, like Cinderalla, are based on the French (Charles Perrault) versions, which usually aren't as gruesome and have happier endings than, say the Grimm's versions. I think we do kids a disservice by giving them the sanitized versions of these stories all the time -- give me the Grimms anyday.

But even the French versions have been sanitized. Perrault's Little Red Riding Hood involved both Red and the Wolf eating grandma for lunch (Red didn't know better) and then sleeping together... and not just sleeping if you know what I mean...

/Perrault wanted to scare his daughter (niece?) away from wolves after she saw one while the went through the forest and said "Nice doggy" (Bon Chien?)

Doesn't the Little Mermaid commit suicide at the end of the Brothers Grimm version?

It's actually Hans Christian Anderson and I think she dies because the guy chooses the other girl... and then maybe the prince commits suicide? Don't recall now.

Oh ok, yea I don't know why I thought Brothers Grimm wrote it. I remember that she died, I just wasn't sure if she commited suicide or not.

Quite true. You have the pretty rough German versions, the prettier but still somewhat rough French versions, and then the Disneyfied American versions.

She pretty much implies she won't do that in the article that BetteDavisEyes linked above.

Rowling said one character got a reprieve -- I wonder if it's Ron, since she has rather heavily foreshadowed his death a few times.

Rowling also said the two who will die are two she "didn't intend to die." I take that to mean that Harry won't be dying. She says the last chapter, which she wrote some time ago, is hidden away and is "now changed very slightly." If she had intended Harry to die from the beginning but gave him a reprieve, I would think the last chapter would need more than slight changes. Same for if she didn't intend for him to die and now decided he would.

I've always felt is was possible that Harry would have to sacrifice everything to kill Voldemort. And that in fact the prophecy might mean that they both have to die...

I think the dying will keep this from being sanitized in any way.

As a thought, now that the Weasleys are mostly grown, Ginny's what a 6th year this book? What about one of the Weasley parents dying?

How come nobody mentions Hagrid as a possible character to die? You definitely wouldn't see that coming.

Many of you are very well read! I haven't read any of those (non-HP) books.

I too am a big HP fan and I am almost 40! Discovered HP after 9/11 so it was a great fantasy place to go each night on my commute home (I worked in NYC at the time).

Denise

What about Fred and George biting the bullet? I don't like the idea but I could see it happening. I could also see it being Ron. I do believe that at least one Weasley is going to die because they're too close to the action and Molly is too afraid that it will happen. Sometimes you have to trust a mother's instinct. Hagrid might not make it as well, to me. Now he's with out a champion (Dumbledore) who is willing to put up with some of his misguided attempts with magical creatures. I love him but I don't know if I can see a place for him in a world without Dumbledore.

As far as Snape, I think that he's not truly evil or truly good. He's only out for what will benefit him the most or keep him alive longer. He hasn't really hurt or killed Harry and he's had the chance but then he hasn't exactly gone out of his way to make anything easy for Harry. But he'll probably survive.

'Harry Potter' actor to be naked on stage

I saw this headline on the front page of yahoo. I guess he's really, really serious about making sure he's not typecast as a child actor.

Or as a boy wizard. Shocking... but good for him for at least trying to branch out.

Yeah, it was on E! News Friday. Should be interesting.

I can just hear all the fangirls squealing over wanting to see Harry Potter naked. :rolleyes:

Not true on the ending for Perrault. Red didn't eat granny at all, the wolf did. I've read the original many times(in French) and recently last week while prepping for my comprehensive exams for my MA in French lit. Red dies because the wolf eats her, there is no sex. He asks her to take of her clothing so he can have a meal, not a sexual act. The end. There is a morality poem at the end warning those who read of various types of wolves (i.e. men) who pursue young ladies.

But with a horse?