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Senusret I 05-26-2006 07:47 PM

Alpha Phi Alpha Joins NIC
 
Alpha Phi Alpha Joins NIC
from: http://alphaphialpha.net/news/index.html#nic

May 2006 - Alpha Phi Alpha along with three other fraternities joined the North-American Interfraternity Conference(NIC) at its 2006 Annual Meeting in Washington last week.

Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity, Inc. will have dual membership in the NIC and National Pan Hellenic Council (NPHC).

The four groups were welcomed into the NIC by NIC President James R. Estes at the opening ceremonies of the NIC Annual Meeting. In his welcome, Estes commented that these fraternities “bring a rich tradition of fraternity ideals to the conference. We are thrilled that they have joined the conference and look forward to working with them in the coming years.”

“We look forward to including these organizations in our educational programming, campus visits, and community events,” said NIC Executive Vice President Jon Williamson. “As our community grows, so does our ability to reach out to all members of the fraternal community. Our work is based on ensuring a bright future for all fraternities,” Williamson added.

Based in Indianapolis, Indiana, the NIC is the premier trade association with a nearly 100 year tradition of representing men’s fraternities, with 350,000 undergraduate members on over 800 campuses in the United States and Canada. In addition, there are over five million alumni members of NIC fraternities.

xo_kathy 05-26-2006 08:40 PM

Very cool.

ANyone have any idea who the other 3 that joined were?

TSteven 05-26-2006 10:00 PM

Beta Chi Theta
Phi Sigma Kappa (rejoined)
Sigma Phi Delta

And welcome to the men of Alpha Phi Alpha.

DeltAlum 05-26-2006 10:58 PM

Welcome, men. The Alphas will make a great addition to the NIC.

Stef the Pef 05-27-2006 12:30 AM

Awesome news, Senusret!

sigtau305 05-27-2006 11:48 AM

very cool news. :cool:

Tom Earp 05-27-2006 03:17 PM

Maybe a new begining for a closer Bonding by All Greeks!

Congratulations to all of the New Members!

Greekopedia 05-28-2006 07:23 PM

Congrats to the bros of AphiA

Kevin 05-28-2006 08:12 PM

These four organizations will now spend lots of money in exchange for exactly nothing. Congratulations!

Greekopedia 05-29-2006 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ktsnake
These four organizations will now spend lots of money in exchange for exactly nothing. Congratulations!
not to fond of the NIC eh?

mccoyred 05-29-2006 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tom Earp
Maybe a new begining for a closer Bonding by All Greeks!

Congratulations to all of the New Members!

What about this transaction should signal a new beginning? I mean orgs join councils every so often so what is different about this time? I really want to know.

Tom Earp 05-29-2006 03:28 PM

Why shouldn't it?

The melding of different ethnic groups cannot be bad is it.

Maybe a better understanding among a larger spectrum of Greeks.

Do You have a problem with that?

ladygreek 05-29-2006 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tom Earp
Why shouldn't it?

The melding of different ethnic groups cannot be bad is it.

Maybe a better understanding among a larger spectrum of Greeks.

Do You have a problem with that?

If the Alphas see a benefit to this, then I think it's a good thing, but not a new beginning. A new beginning of what? Plus the Iotas were already a member of the NIC.

I guess basically I don't how it is "melding" different ethnic groups anymore than the NPHC "melded" different orgs. We are still our own unique groups. And that to me is a good thing.

Senusret I 05-29-2006 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ladygreek
If the Alphas see a benefit to this, then I think it's a good thing, but not a new beginning. A new beginning of what? Plus the Iotas were already a member of the NIC.
*scoff*

But a party isn't a party until the Alphas arrive!

:)

ladygreek 05-29-2006 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Senusret I
*scoff*

But a party isn't a party until the Alphas arrive!

:)

:p :D

Tom Earp 05-29-2006 06:04 PM

So, some of You D 9ers dont think it is good?

Is that what You are saying?

If so, why not?

sigmadiva 05-29-2006 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tom Earp
So, some of You D 9ers dont think it is good?

Is that what You are saying?

If so, why not?

No one said that Tom. You, again, are reading something that is not there. A question was asked based on your observation. That is all.

Tom Earp 05-29-2006 06:24 PM

And I understood that they did not seem to over joyed by what is happening.:(

Of course it is just My take on it.;)

KSigkid 05-29-2006 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ktsnake
These four organizations will now spend lots of money in exchange for exactly nothing. Congratulations!
Exactly - that's one of the reasons we're former members of the NIC.

DSTCHAOS 05-29-2006 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tom Earp
So, some of You D 9ers dont think it is good?

Not good or bad.

ladygreek 05-29-2006 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tom Earp
And I understood that they did not seem to over joyed by what is happening.:(

Of course it is just My take on it.;)

What is there to be overjoyed about? It's not a life changing event like finding the cure for cancer. :confused:

Senusret I 05-29-2006 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ladygreek
What is there to be overjoyed about? It's not a life changing event like finding the cure for cancer. :confused:
But I bet an Alpha will do that, too.

*sorry, just feeling really Frat today, lol* :D

DSTCHAOS 05-29-2006 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Senusret I
But I bet an Alpha will do that, too.

*sorry, just feeling really Frat today, lol* :D

Alpha's a good frat to feel frat about. :)

mccoyred 05-29-2006 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tom Earp
Why shouldn't it?

The melding of different ethnic groups cannot be bad is it.

Maybe a better understanding among a larger spectrum of Greeks.

Do You have a problem with that?

My question was based on my perception of your post that this was a first and a major event. Both Kappa Alpha Psi and Iota Phi Theta, NPHC fraternities, are also members of either the IFC or NIC and have been for some time...or did you not know that?

PiKA2001 05-30-2006 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mccoyred
My question was based on my perception of your post that this was a first and a major event. Both Kappa Alpha Psi and Iota Phi Theta, NPHC fraternities, are also members of either the IFC or NIC and have been for some time...or did you not know that?
Whats the point in being in both, other than having to pay both the NPHC and NIC dues?

Kevin 05-30-2006 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KSigkid
Exactly - that's one of the reasons we're former members of the NIC.
Kappa Sigma left the NIC and they survived?

It must be a fluke.

tunatartare 05-30-2006 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PiKA2001
Whats the point in being in both, other than having to pay both the NPHC and NIC dues?
that's what I was wondering

ladygreek 05-30-2006 02:13 AM

Question: do individual chapters have to pay dues to the NIC or does the national HQ?

Kevin 05-30-2006 02:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ladygreek
Question: do individual chapters have to pay dues to the NIC or does the national HQ?
The HQ uses the money paid to it by the chapters to pay NIC's expensive dues.

5 figures for a lot of nothing.

starang21 05-30-2006 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PiKA2001
Whats the point in being in both, other than having to pay both the NPHC and NIC dues?
because someone feels like it.

PerfectVerse06 05-30-2006 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tom Earp
So, some of You D 9ers dont think it is good?

Is that what You are saying?

If so, why not?

So what does your Kappa friend think about this? He does speak for all members of the Divine 9, doesn't he?

http://www.websitegoodies.com/smilie...nocent0009.gif


http://www.freesmileys.org/emo/greet024.gif to Tom Earp's Kappa friend, if you're reading this!

http://www.websitegoodies.com/smilies/gfx/party0004.gif

TSteven 05-30-2006 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mccoyred
My question was based on my perception of your post that this was a first and a major event. Both Kappa Alpha Psi and Iota Phi Theta, NPHC fraternities, are also members of either the IFC or NIC and have been for some time...or did you not know that?
Just to be clear, the IFC (Interfraternity Council) is a local (campus specific) council while the NIC (North-American Interfraternity Conference) is international in scope. Thus a chapter that is a member of an IFC does not mean that the chapter's GLO is also a member of the NIC.

As an example, NPHC members Phi Beta Sigma and Omega Psi Phi can have chapters that are members of a campus IFC but the fraternities would not be members of the NIC.

ladygreek 05-30-2006 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TSteven
Just to be clear, the IFC (Interfraternity Council) is a local (campus specific) council while the NIC (North-American Interfraternity Conference) is international in scope. Thus a chapter that is a member of an IFC does not mean that the chapter's GLO is also a member of the NIC.

As an example, NPHC members Phi Beta Sigma and Omega Psi Phi can have chapters that are members of a campus IFC but the fraternities would not be members of the NIC.

Thanks. So if a GLO is a member of NIC then all of its chapters are mandated to pay NIC dues?

TSteven 05-30-2006 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ladygreek
Question: do individual chapters have to pay dues to the NIC or does the national HQ?
Quote:

Originally posted by ktsnake
The HQ uses the money paid to it by the chapters to pay NIC's expensive dues.

5 figures for a lot of nothing.

I could be wrong, but my understanding is that each GLO's NIC dues are based on the number of the GLO's members and not simply a flat fee. Thus smaller GLOs would not pay the same in dues as larger GLOs.

TSteven 05-30-2006 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ladygreek
Thanks. So if a GLO is a member of NIC then all of its chapters are mandated to pay NIC dues?
My understanding is that dues are based on the number of members. So for most GLOs, I would venture to guess that a portion (set amount) of the fees/dues that each member pays to the chapter/IHQ goes to the NIC. While some GLOs may collect the fees differently.

TSteven 05-30-2006 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PiKA2001
Whats the point in being in both, other than having to pay both the NPHC and NIC dues?
From the University of Michigan Iota Phi Theta website. (link)

"As a member of the NIC, Iota Phi Theta is able to directly affect issues of importance to the fraternal community at large."

Munchkin03 05-30-2006 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ladygreek
Thanks. So if a GLO is a member of NIC then all of its chapters are mandated to pay NIC dues?
That's true with the NPC, but the dues are really small. I think I paid $15/semester for NPC dues, which pays for general Panhellenic stuff. We also had to pay a Campus Panhel fee that went towards the rush kick-off and general supplies (like dinner for the Rho Chis and Pref Cards).

But, in keeping with what ktnsake said, the national dues kinda seem a little superfluous. What did I pay $120 for? What was it? Campus Panhel, I could see the point of.

Rain Man 05-30-2006 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TSteven
Just to be clear, the IFC (Interfraternity Council) is a local (campus specific) council while the NIC (North-American Interfraternity Conference) is international in scope. Thus a chapter that is a member of an IFC does not mean that the chapter's GLO is also a member of the NIC.

As an example, NPHC members Phi Beta Sigma and Omega Psi Phi can have chapters that are members of a campus IFC but the fraternities would not be members of the NIC.

Just to slightly expound on this:

A campus IFC can also include local GLOs along with NIC orgs as well.

While some people use the terms IFC and NIC interchangeably, it is important to keep in mind the scope that such terms should be used: IFC is local in scope, NIC is international.

Barring any rare exceptions, it appears that the dual NPHC/NIC orgs (Alpha, Kappa, and Iota) are members strictly in the international sense. Meaning, they will represent their membership at international meetings and gatherings, but rarely if ever on the local level. You probably won't see them at any IFC meetings or events very often.

Now I wonder if AKA or Delta will join the NPC....
(j/k :D)

Optimist Prime 05-30-2006 10:52 AM

very cool, now no excuse not to be in greek week

DeltAlum 05-30-2006 10:58 AM

I don't know much about the workings of the NIC. I know that Delt is one of the charter members and has had several presidents.

My question is: Can anything that fosters communications on a national/international level be all bad?


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