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adpiucf 05-25-2006 04:07 PM

Too Short For Jail
 
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5'1" adult male and convicted child sex offender given 10 years' probation because judge fears for his safety in prison.

Tom Earp 05-25-2006 04:21 PM

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Wow, judge this and say What The F!!!!:mad:

A Little Person who is a sexual Offender?

That doesnt change a damn thing, they usually keep doing the same thing!

Incompitent Judge!:mad:

Virtuous Woman 05-25-2006 04:54 PM

That judge needs to be removed from the bench! That's obscene!

Kevin 05-25-2006 05:48 PM

It's an interesting decision. It's more than likely that a sentence to imprisonment would be a death sentence for this guy. The judge obviously fealt that his crimes weren't enough for a death sentence.

I can see where the judge was coming from. I'm not sure that I agree though.

GeekyPenguin 05-26-2006 01:55 AM

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Originally posted by Virtuous Woman
That judge needs to be removed from the bench! That's obscene!
Um, why?

PerfectVerse06 05-26-2006 09:13 AM

I read in another article that supporters of short people say that it's about time that the 'unique challenges' the vertically chanllenged face have been recognized by others.

Ummmmmm, and what 'unique challenges' would that be?

Not being able to get on the Tilt-A-Whirl, and half the other rides at the amusement park at the amusement park?

:confused:


This is ridiculous. Why is physical apperance becoming such a huge factor in the severity of punishment a criminal gets? First the woman that was 'too pretty to go to jail', and now 'you must be this tall to become Big Bubba's Polly Pocket Lover in the slammer'.

wrigley 05-26-2006 09:14 AM

from the article "I want control of you until I know you have integrated change into your life," the judge told Thompson. "I truly hope that my bet on you being OK out in society is not misplaced."

WITW was she thinking?? The problem is her "bet" effects children who are vulnerable against a man like that. Too bad if he's short. Probation for him is nothing compared to the lifetime of psychological effects for his victim.

AlphaFrog 05-26-2006 09:27 AM

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Originally posted by PerfectVerse06
First the woman that was 'too pretty to go to jail', and now 'you must be this tall to become Big Bubba's Polly Pocket Lover in the slammer'.
OMG!! Hilarious!!! Gives new meaning to those t-shirts that have the line on them and say "Must be this tall to ride".

mulattogyrl 05-26-2006 10:01 AM

It's funny, he wasn't too short to molest a child, but too short to go to jail. Hmmm, I wonder...

kddani 05-26-2006 10:12 AM

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Originally posted by mulattogyrl
It's funny, he wasn't too short to molest a child, but too short to go to jail. Hmmm, I wonder...
That's exactly what I thought. And it was a 12 year old girl. Chances are that she was nearly as tall or taller than him.

It's not like he's technically a dwarf or midget or little person whatever the current term for it is. He's 5'1. He's not THAT short.

I do NOT like the idea of releasing a child molester back into society immediately like this. What about solitary confinement, for his own good, or other solutions? It's a problem of the prison system if they can't protect their prisoners. It's not an excuse to let a guy out into the world who hasn't been rehabilitated. He will only be electronically monitored for FOUR MONTHS. If the judge was that concerned, then perhaps she should've thought outside the box a little more.

Wonder if we'll be seeing him show up at one of the houses on Dateline anytime soon....

dzrose93 05-26-2006 10:17 AM

Personally, I don't give a damn if the guy is harmed in jail. If he hadn't broken the law, then he wouldn't be in the position of going to jail in the first place. And the fact that he committed a crime against a child makes the judge's ruling even more asinine. As a mother, I would be absolutely outraged if this happened in my area.

Keep him in isolation if his small stature is that "big" of a problem. Releasing him on probation, even with electronic monitoring, is doing a huge disservice to the community.

mulattogyrl 05-26-2006 10:19 AM

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Originally posted by kddani
That's exactly what I thought. And it was a 12 year old girl. Chances are that she was nearly as tall or taller than him.

It's not like he's technically a dwarf or midget or little person whatever the current term for it is. He's 5'1. He's not THAT short.

I do NOT like the idea of releasing a child molester back into society immediately like this. What about solitary confinement, for his own good, or other solutions? It's a problem of the prison system if they can't protect their prisoners. It's not an excuse to let a guy out into the world who hasn't been rehabilitated. He will only be electronically monitored for FOUR MONTHS. If the judge was that concerned, then perhaps she should've thought outside the box a little more.

Wonder if we'll be seeing him show up at one of the houses on Dateline anytime soon....

Exactly. I was thinking solitary confinement too. A child molester being unsafe in prison is just part of prison life. Oh well. I've known rapists shorter than me, and I'm 5'1 (I used to work in prison). What you find many times are that the smaller/shorter/skinnier people are the tougher/crazier ones because they know they're vulnverable. He did the crime, he can handle it. OH WELL.

valkyrie 05-26-2006 11:58 AM

It's all well and good to be outraged by this and say "who cares" if somebody convicted of a crime is raped/beaten/whatever in prison. Here's the thing, though -- one day, that guy who was raped/beaten/whatever in prison will be back out on the streets. Do you think that the time spent in prison being raped/beaten/whatever has made him LESS likely to commit crimes and LESS dangerous? If so, pass me some of whatever you're smoking. Is the satisfaction you get from thinking of him being the meat on a big hairy inmate sandwich worth the thought of him getting out in a few years and being even more messed up than he was before, and hey, maybe he'll live near you and your children.

The prison system in this country has been broken for a long time and needs to be fixed. The first step is to stop locking people up for being caught with a joint -- but yeah, how likely is that in this country today?

trideltrockstar 05-26-2006 12:06 PM

This is ridiculous. He committed the crime, he should have to pay. Regardless of his physical appearance. If they are so worried, why don't they put him in solitary confinement?

Kevin 05-26-2006 01:52 PM

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Originally posted by mulattogyrl
Exactly. I was thinking solitary confinement too. A child molester being unsafe in prison is just part of prison life. Oh well. I've known rapists shorter than me, and I'm 5'1 (I used to work in prison). What you find many times are that the smaller/shorter/skinnier people are the tougher/crazier ones because they know they're vulnverable. He did the crime, he can handle it. OH WELL.
I would have to think that the Judge is in a better position to decide this than you or I.

dzrose93 05-26-2006 02:36 PM

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Originally posted by valkyrie
It's all well and good to be outraged by this and say "who cares" if somebody convicted of a crime is raped/beaten/whatever in prison. Here's the thing, though -- one day, that guy who was raped/beaten/whatever in prison will be back out on the streets. Do you think that the time spent in prison being raped/beaten/whatever has made him LESS likely to commit crimes and LESS dangerous?
I see what you're saying, but the thing about this case is... this guy is now well aware that he's got a "get out of jail free" card. If he molests another child, what is the judge going to do then? She's already said on record that it's too dangerous for him to be in jail... so what's the next step? I'm not a lawyer but it seems like this guy's defense attorney would be able to argue that jail is cruel and unusual punishment now that the precedent has been set. To me, it just doesn't seem like this current "punishment" is going to make him LESS likely to commit crimes or LESS dangerous either.

TristanDSP 05-26-2006 03:08 PM

[HIJACK]

I'm sick of all these judges who believe that the rights of the suspect/defendant are as equal (even MORE it seems sometimes) as the rights of the victim.

I understand pleading down for a 16 yr old kid with no record spray painting something or breaking a window, but it's sad that some people who commit violent crimes (especially against a child) get light sentences because the judge believes he/she can be "reformed" into society.

I can't believe that idiot Vermont judge Cashman sent someone who had sex with an 8 yr old girl for four years to 60 DAYS in jail.....

[/HIJACK]

KSig RC 05-26-2006 03:28 PM

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Originally posted by TristanDSP
I'm sick of all these judges who believe that the rights of the suspect/defendant are as equal (even MORE it seems sometimes) as the rights of the victim.

stupid constitution!

valkyrie 05-26-2006 03:51 PM

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Originally posted by KSig RC
stupid constitution!
That's okay! In some counties, they don't bother with that outdated piece of crap!

GeekyPenguin 05-26-2006 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by valkyrie
That's okay! In some counties, they don't bother with that outdated piece of crap!
An eye for an eye! That's my kind of justice!

Tom Earp 05-26-2006 05:06 PM

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Originally posted by GeekyPenguin
Um, why?
So, why do You ask this question?

Granted Judges are People as they are Lwayers, are they immune from being Idiots and malcontents or just plain stupid?:rolleyes:

Is Your last Post being Your way of being CUTE?

Try Criminal Justice and see some of the crapo that happens to innocent people.

EYE FOR AN EYE, You Damn Bet You, but do it Legally first.

Do a trial before the Peers and see what they decide, well Unles the Perp has Crappy Lawyers and then appeals for that fact!

He gets a retrial because He had S**T for Brain Legal Advice and everyone knew it!

OOPS!:rolleyes:

You want to talk Criminal Cases?

1. BTK
2. Bob Berdelo
3. Charlse Manson.

Just to name a few!

Homocides, dead bodies and blood, kidnapping, Rape, Sodomy.

Talk Your legal Jargon where is belongs in No where Land of Torts and White Collar Stuffings!

Some of the New Legal dont see this Judge as an Idiot?

Oh, Maybe He like the Judge in the South that said No to taking Christian Symbols off of a Court House!

I hope This Dude Runs For President!;)

valkyrie 05-26-2006 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tom Earp
Try Criminal Justice and see some of the crapo that happens to innocent people.

Do you have first-hand experience with criminal justice?

Tom Earp 05-26-2006 05:30 PM

Yes, I was a Constable On Patrol.

A COP!

Also a Detective in Crimes against Persons.

I delt with two Kinds of People!

1. Ass Wholes who did bad to people.

2. People who had asswholes do bad to them.

I have been shot , dog bit, and cut and damn near died, I had three car wrecks in Police Cars let alone in My Personal Car when I tried to stop and help people.

Did I go to Court, Yes I did and saw some real Shit Lawyers who were Ambulance Chasers!:mad:

I have some very good Friends who are Lawyers and respect them for the job they do.

But The Few, The Proud are Few and Far Between. Oh, and Those that are Good.

When I went to Court, I had My Ducks in a Row and never lost a case.:D

Hopefully that answers Your Question!

Also, My Best Friend is a Law Enforement Officer along with many Of My Customers who are COPs and We Discuss situations and Cases. Oh, add the Legal Flegals who are also My Customers and We Do Talk!

Civil and Criminal Cases.:D

valkyrie 05-26-2006 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tom Earp
Yes, I was a Constable On Patrol.

A COP!

I delt with two Kinds of People!

1. Ass Wholes who did bad to people.

2. People who had asswholes do bad to them.

I have been shot cut, dog bit, and cut and damn near died, I three car wrecks in Police Cars let alone in My Personal Car when I tried to stop and help people.

Did I go to Court, Yes I did and saw some real Shit Lawyers who were Ambalance Chasers!:mad:

I have some very good Friends who are Lawyers and respect them for the job they do.

But The Few The Proud are Few and Far Between. Oh, and Those that are Good.

When I went to Court, I had My Ducks in a Row and never lost a case.:D

Hopefully that answers Your Queastion!

Also, My Best Friend is a Law Enforement Officer along with many Of My Customers who are COPs and We Discuss situations and Cases. Oh, add the Legal Flegals who are also My Customers and We Do Talk!

Civil and Criminal Cases.:D

Okay duh, I suppose I already knew that. ;) Of course then you and I probably come from opposite ends of any criminal justice discussion.

Tom Earp 05-28-2006 10:35 AM

Do We or should We?

If there are do baders then they should be take care of in a legal matter.

To let some little shit go because He is to short is a Legal
crime and The Judge should be censored for it.

Now keeping an eye on the latest crime wave of two people from Independence, Mo. Caught in Barton County, Mo. Lamar, Mo.

They had a 5 year old girl who was a relative ot the Male and was raped and did extremely harmful damage to Her.

Bring back Judge Roy Bean, "The Law West of The Pecos".


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