Initiation Cost?
 

Curious what other National/International groups pay for initiation. I'm curious mainly about the national feed.


Phi Sigma Kappa

$50 Association (Pledge)
$300 Initiation

350 initiation and no pledge fee (ADPhi)

I cannot say for sure, but Initial dues are @ 128.00.

This goes for Peadagogus, plain Badge, insurance. Biggest expense is for insurance.

But what do yealy dues go for:

1. IHQ staffing.

2. ELC traveling.

3. Regional and General Assembly where 1 Delegate from each Chapter is paid for.

4. Publications and mailings such as Officer Manuals.

5. Scholarships.

6. Web Site. This includes Our Monthly Cross and Cresent electronic mailing.

7. Plastic Member ship card.

8. Paedagogus, New Associate Manual.

9. Membership Certificate.

There is a lot of expense in keeping a National Organization in operation and servicing All Of Our Chapters.

Are dues worth it, yes they are as only a partion goes to HQs. and the rest stay with the Chapter.

Is it worth it, Hell Yes It IS! If not, I would not have been doing it for 40 years.

Fraternally Yours,

$15 initiation (for plain golf-filled pin, constitution, certificate, membership card, administrative fees...)

$25 annual National Dues (administrative fees, convention delegates, newspaper)

$40 annual Chapter Dues...

This is why fundraising is such a VITAL part of our existance..without fundraising, we simply CANNOT exist...

Wow :eek: TMI!

How is this TMI? THis is information we tell to Candidates at their very first interest/rush meeting.

$15 initiation? Typo maybe?

Dont understand how Your Fees can be so low?:(

I guess it does have to do with what a HQ spends and waht the Chapters derive from the HQ.

Nope, not a typo, our initiation fee really is $15.00! Keep in mind that we are a non-collegiate, not-for-profit organization. We don't have to worry about things such as insurance and rent nor do we have any dues to pay to an umbrella organization or any similar body.

The chapters do most of the fundraising for their individual needs on their own...being as most chapters operate out of a Sister's home, our overhead costs are very low. We also do not maintain a physical national headquarters. All correspondance goes to the respective National Officer's home or PO Box address.

Does this answer some of everyone's questions?

Jus an FYI but most of us are not for profit groups ...........

International dues are $24/year. Our chapter dues are $27/year. That's it. No initiation fees. I think there is a pledge fee (to cover our pledge manual, pin and Book of Beta Sigma Phi) , but it's been a couple of years since I pledged that I forgot what it was...think it was $15 or $20 or so.

DU fees posted on our wesite, 60 pledge fee, 200 initiation fee.

Just for comparison.

Alpha Phi Omega (keep in mind we have no houses)

Pledge fee- $20
Initiation fee- $35
Annual Active Membership dues- $15

It's different in the non-collegiate or NPC world. Most NPC Rushes require that during one of the rounds the dues are presented up front and broken down to the dollar. I've even seen some Greek life offices that post dues on the website for all the sororities on campus.

I guess I'm less than completely educated on what's out there for GLO's.

I'm talking about the standard national/international collegiate fraternities and/or sororities.

No offense to anyone else intended, I'm just looking for the apples-to-apples comparison of Phi Sigma Kappa. We're mid-to-large-sized, as far as I can tell: 80 chapters, about 120,000 living initiates, 2500-3000 undergrads.

Your campus Greek adviser should be able to provide a break down and comparison.

If members are grumbling about one-time fees and national dues, remind them that no one forced them to join, and that these fees are a membership obligation for ALL members.

Nah, no grumbling (at the moment).

This is for me more than anything. I'm just trying to get an idea overall of where PSK fits in comparison to other greeks in relatively similar orgs.

What I think it less important is a comparison (you get into apples & oranges like comparision), and more knowing where the money is going. (of course that can lead into stuff like 'why are we paying xx for yy? We can get that cheaper...')

APhiA's initiation fees are on our national website somewhere. They've gone up since I crossed in 2003.

I'd have to agree w/ McCoy

The initiation cost of Alpha Kappa Alpha are on a "need to know" basis. I'd venture to say that's about the same for Delta.

Once again, we are talking about NIC/NPC/IFC. We realize that NPHC is an altogether different thing. NPC is NOT on a need to know, we are required to give that info to all PNMs.

Ouch...

I'm sorry if you failed to read my previous post and were offended when I posted again that the OP was not asking about NPHC. What is TMI to NPHC and what may be TMI to NPC may be open info to NPHC. No need to get all:eek: :eek: when we discuss OUR non-privileged info.

Our initiation dues are around 300 or so. We're one of the cheaper fraternities on campus and it runs about 1200 a year, without initation dues.

Off goes the p&g jacket...
 

Actually, I did read your post. But as you aren't the OP, I didn't think you were determining the direction of the discussion. The OP said National/International orgs not specifically NIC/NPC/IFC. My opinion towards YOUR activities is just that...MINE.

As you are not in charge of the internet, I see no problem putting my thoughts out there. If you see such a problem, just ignore them and keep it moving. You are more than welcome/comfortable with stopping by AKA Ave. I thought I could feel the same way about Greek Life Road...but alas...I was wrong.

Putting P&G jacket back on and strollin' down to NPHC Boulevard...:cool:

If someone says "hey, join my group" and I'm like "hey how much" and they're like "this is on need to know" I'd be a little skeptical

anyway,

$75 for initiation.

i think $150 to pledge

Welllll.....you know recruitment/selection/intake doesn't work quite like that for NPHC orgs.

And again, it's not top secret info for every NPHC org. As I mentioned, it's somewhere on our website.

And yes, I would be skeptical too if I asked someone the cost and they wouldn't tell me.

Personal opinion- If I'm about to do anything that requires me parting with my hard earned dollar, I need to know the cost before I commit-- so I don't walk into a money pit and leave myself competely out of cash--- what good with my sorority badge be if I can't feed myself or put a roof over my head.

Just saying-- you're not going to sign a contract to buy a car without knowing how much it costs. I fail to see how membership dues would not be forthcoming if you were extended an invitation to join- that should be a very important factor to the PNM as well as the organization. For the former "Can I afford this" is just as important as the latter "Can this person pay the dues that sustain this organization?"

ETA: I would assume, that by need to know this means those who are offered membership and just the general public, at the very least?

As a general matter, my organization does not discuss fees in public forums or with the general public. Those interested in pursuing membership are told a reasonable time before the intake process begins.


Senusret I -- Our intake fees are on the Sigma Gamma Rho's Website as well.... in the Sorors Only Section! :D :p ;)

What she said...:cool:

Excellent. That makes sense.

This information may be found on the Sigma Chi website.

Pledge Fee - $90.00
Initiation Fee - $175.00

This is the essence of my previous post. Interesting to see the turn of events. :cool:

Hey--I went back and re-read. I thought you meant you didn't/wouldn't tell people untill its time to pay up, and that would be a def. killer for me.

I just realised what you meant, that you don't just tell the general public, not those who you want to join.

Re: Off goes the p&g jacket...
 

Right.

So instead of appearing to make general statements about other organizations giving out this information, the NPHC members could have just said that some of OUR organizations don't make such info public knowledge. ;)

Re: Re: Off goes the p&g jacket...
 

Thank you. This was exactly what I was saying.:)

This thread is about whatever organizations divulge that info. ;)

Re: Re: Re: Off goes the p&g jacket...
 

No, not exactly and I don't completely agree with your point. ;)

DSTChaos,
Thanks for the lesson. As a neo, I can jump out there sort of hard. ;)

It's all good...

Just wondering though...do all NPC, IFC, NIC orgs tell the dues and initiation fees right away? Does that affect people's willingness to join...if the fees are expensive?

I think that's a matter of the individual chapters and comparing themselves to the local groups on campus. Now, we don't have a big formal rush period. It's open bidding all the time for us. When we offer a bid, we know the guy pretty well already.

For us, the finances come up when we offer the bid unless they ask before that -- which they do most of the time.

If someone is sold on your group already, dropping the bomb on them of a big fee could be disheartening. If they're thinking "I'm joining!" and have $100 in their head for some reason, finding out it's $400 would be an issue. We have a 6-week associate member program so I encourage the PNMs to bank $50 a week with the Treasurer.

Here we have Kappa Sigma, TKE, Triangle and Phi Sigma Kappa.

I know we're higher than Kappa Sig, I think we're comparable with TKE. No idea about Triangle.

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And for NPHC groups, they tend to work on their own outside the NIC/IFC/NPC system. I have no idea what they charge, but I think there's 6 or 7 groups on campus.

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