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marquise1911 05-02-2006 11:39 AM
Walking the Line...
 
What's considered taboo in Greek life across the board??? List the things that are considered taboo either on your campus or across the board. Nothing secret of course. If you find something disputable, it’s ok to disagree.

Here's a few things I've learned and still hold on to...

1. Never do someone else’s hand signs, even if dissing, if necessary modify to appear similar, but NEVER put up someone’s hand signs.
2. Never, ever, ever touch another Greeks paraphernalia, even with permission.
3. When another organizations national/regional song is on, you do not stroll or obstruct them in any way.
4. Never argue with another Greek in public.
5. Never call a Sigma Gamma Rho a “Rho”, a Delta a “DST”, or an AKA an “AKah” (seen as very disrespectful where I’m from).
6. Train only if you’re an Alpha, Hop only if you’re a Que, Shimmy only if you’re a Kappa, and Triple step only if you're a Sigma.
7. Even if an unofficial bond exists, never refer to an AKA or Delta as “soror” (as far as KAPsi is concerned).
8. Never wear more than one piece of pari.

Rain Man 05-02-2006 03:14 PM
Re: Walking the Line...
 
Quote:
Originally posted by marquise1911
What's considered taboo in Greek life across the board??? List the things that are considered taboo either on your campus or across the board. Nothing secret of course. If you find something disputable, it’s ok to disagree.

Here's a few things I've learned and still hold on to...

1. Never do someone else’s hand signs, even if dissing, if necessary modify to appear similar, but NEVER put up someone’s hand signs.
2. Never, ever, ever touch another Greeks paraphernalia, even with permission.
3. When another organizations national/regional song is on, you do not stroll or obstruct them in any way.
4. Never argue with another Greek in public.
5. Never call a Sigma Gamma Rho a “Rho”, a Delta a “DST”, or an AKA an “AKah” (seen as very disrespectful where I’m from).
6. Train only if you’re an Alpha, Hop only if you’re a Que, Shimmy only if you’re a Kappa, and Triple step only if you're a Sigma.
7. Even if an unofficial bond exists, never refer to an AKA or Delta as “soror” (as far as KAPsi is concerned).
8. Never wear more than one piece of pari.
I'm sorry, Marquise. I'm cool wit'cha' and got no beef with you, (chicken or fish maybe, but no beef), but whoever conceived a lot of these taboos are too full of themselves and need to humble up a bit.

My issues with your taboos listed are as follows

1. Trivial
2. Idolatrous (Just because you worship your letters don't mean I have to as well).
3. Are you talking official organization-sanctioned song or an unofficial party song? If the latter, they need to get a life and get over themselves.
4. This is the only "taboo" I actually agree with.
5. Again, that is trivial and in the long run, a heckuva lot less disrespectful than other names one could use to address them. Pick your battles wisely.
6. I have no opinion on this one way or the other.
7. Thank God this doesn't transcend to APQ and GSS (where we address one another as "frat" and "soror" on the regular with no beef whatsoever--AFAIK)
8. If it's due to National organizational protocol, I understand. Otherwise, again, it's a trivial rule.

The problem I have with most of these taboos is that IMHO they are steeped in arrogance and self-importance under the guise and illusion of "respect".

unknown2u 05-02-2006 03:20 PM
I feel you Rainman. People think that i have to show them respect because they are greek. No you earn respect! Why the heck would someone get mad cause someone 'touched" your naila that is soo silly. It is not the ARK OF THE COVENANT.

Man some people will realize that in the last days your letters will NOT save you from the FIERY pits of Hell. So all in all this is very silly.

SKEEphistAKAte 05-02-2006 04:02 PM
One GC clearly needs to know...
 
Take notes folks:

NEVER DISRESPECT YOUR ELDERS... and we were taught not only to respect elders of Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc. but those of other D9 organizations. It seems that most younger members of orgs these days have no grasp of that concept. I don't care if the elder member is reading your the riot act over something that doesn't even pertain to you. You are to STFU, smile, and respectfully nod.

mulattogyrl 05-02-2006 04:19 PM
Re: One GC clearly needs to know...
 
Quote:
Originally posted by SKEEphistAKAte
Take notes folks:

NEVER DISRESPECT YOUR ELDERS... and we were taught not only to respect elders of Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc. but those of other D9 organizations. It seems that most younger members of orgs these days have no grasp of that concept. I don't care if the elder member is reading your the riot act over something that doesn't even pertain to you. You are to STFU, smile, and respectfully nod.
TRUE DAT.

DSTdimepiece 05-02-2006 04:27 PM
Amen sistergreek!

marquise1911 05-02-2006 04:30 PM
Re: Re: Walking the Line...
 
Quote:
Originally posted by Rain Man
I'm sorry, Marquise. I'm cool wit'cha' and got no beef with you, (chicken or fish maybe, but no beef), but whoever conceived a lot of these taboos are too full of themselves and need to humble up a bit.

My issues with your taboos listed are as follows

1. Trivial
2. Idolatrous (Just because you worship your letters don't mean I have to as well).
3. Are you talking official organization-sanctioned song or an unofficial party song? If the latter, they need to get a life and get over themselves.
4. This is the only "taboo" I actually agree with.
5. Again, that is trivial and in the long run, a heckuva lot less disrespectful than other names one could use to address them. Pick your battles wisely.
6. I have no opinion on this one way or the other.
7. Thank God this doesn't transcend to APQ and GSS (where we address one another as "frat" and "soror" on the regular with no beef whatsoever--AFAIK)
8. If it's due to National organizational protocol, I understand. Otherwise, again, it's a trivial rule.

The problem I have with most of these taboos is that IMHO they are steeped in arrogance and self-importance under the guise and illusion of "respect".
Point well taken, but they still stand. I wouldn't want somone touching my pari without my permission, nor would I want someone putting up my sign in a disrespectful manner.

My taboos aren't set in stone, but they're set in my head and my mama said my head is hard as a rock...lol!!!

marquise1911 05-02-2006 04:32 PM
Re: One GC clearly needs to know...
 
Quote:
Originally posted by SKEEphistAKAte
Take notes folks:

NEVER DISRESPECT YOUR ELDERS... and we were taught not only to respect elders of Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc. but those of other D9 organizations. It seems that most younger members of orgs these days have no grasp of that concept. I don't care if the elder member is reading your the riot act over something that doesn't even pertain to you. You are to STFU, smile, and respectfully nod.
Let the church say...AMEN!!!:D

FeeFee 05-02-2006 04:35 PM
Re: One GC clearly needs to know...
 
Quote:
Originally posted by SKEEphistAKAte
Take notes folks:

NEVER DISRESPECT YOUR ELDERS... and we were taught not only to respect elders of Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc. but those of other D9 organizations. It seems that most younger members of orgs these days have no grasp of that concept. I don't care if the elder member is reading your the riot act over something that doesn't even pertain to you. You are to STFU, smile, and respectfully nod.
Amen Soror!!!

teena 05-02-2006 04:35 PM
Re: Re: One GC clearly needs to know...
 
Quote:
Originally posted by marquise1911
Let the church say...AMEN!!!:D
Excuse me.....the correct spelling is chuch

unknown2u 05-02-2006 04:36 PM
Re: One GC clearly needs to know...
 
Quote:
Originally posted by SKEEphistAKAte
Take notes folks:

NEVER DISRESPECT YOUR ELDERS... and we were taught not only to respect elders of Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc. but those of other D9 organizations. It seems that most younger members of orgs these days have no grasp of that concept. I don't care if the elder member is reading your the riot act over something that doesn't even pertain to you. You are to STFU, smile, and respectfully nod.
:rolleyes:
Again you do not get respect you EARN respect. Age does not make you ENTITLED to respect. The youngest people to me are worthy of much praise then some of the older ones. Jesus was 12 years old when he started his ministry and the Pharisees were 40 and up. Whou think deserves more respect??? Age aint nothing but a number!!! So in other words just cause you old does not mean you cannot get called out!
It's the truth, people know it but they will never admit it.

DSTinguished1 05-02-2006 04:41 PM
You will NEVER go far with that type of mentality....:(

marquise1911 05-02-2006 04:53 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by DSTinguished1
You will NEVER go far with that type of mentality....:(
Where's the line so I can co-sign...

All Others Please Post Things You Feel Are Taboo....!!!!!

unspokenone25 05-02-2006 05:25 PM
Re: Re: One GC clearly needs to know...
 
Quote:
Originally posted by unknown2u
:rolleyes:
Again you do not get respect you EARN respect. Age does not make you ENTITLED to respect. The youngest people to me are worthy of much praise then some of the older ones. Jesus was 12 years old when he started his ministry and the Pharisees were 40 and up. Whou think deserves more respect??? Age aint nothing but a number!!! So in other words just cause you old does not mean you cannot get called out!
It's the truth, people know it but they will never admit it.
Have you ever heard of the words...Humble and Humility? They go a LONG way in life.

mulattogyrl 05-02-2006 05:36 PM
Re: Re: Re: One GC clearly needs to know...
 
Quote:
Originally posted by teena
Excuse me.....the correct spelling is chuch
lol

MeezDiscreet 05-02-2006 05:42 PM
* You don't say "soror" unless you are in a sorority.

* Do not wear their colors if you are an interest (at least not to their functions)

AKA2D '91 05-02-2006 06:09 PM
Re: Re: One GC clearly needs to know...
 
Quote:
Originally posted by unknown2u
:rolleyes:
Again you do not get respect you EARN respect. Age does not make you ENTITLED to respect. The youngest people to me are worthy of much praise then some of the older ones. Jesus was 12 years old when he started his ministry and the Pharisees were 40 and up. Whou think deserves more respect??? Age aint nothing but a number!!! So in other words just cause you old does not mean you cannot get called out!
It's the truth, people know it but they will never admit it.
Rhetorical questions: Based on what I see @ work, I'm a bit skeptical about asking these questions, but I will.
Do you respect your grandparents? Your mother? Your father? Your aunts? Your uncles?

If you are interested in an organization, do you respect that org's Founders? :confused: If you say "no" to the last one... why bother? :confused:

You don't have to respect the person, but respect the position of the person (having more experience)...

jubilance1922 05-02-2006 06:10 PM
I love how folks who AREN'T members of Sigma Gamma Rho like to tell us what is trival. If we don't like being called "Rho" , why is it anyone's role to judge the "importance" of what we would like to be called.

That's like if your name was Samantha, and EVERYONE you met just shortened your name to Sam without asking your preference. Would you think it was trival then?

Its about respect folks. If I feel that its disrepectful to call me a different name than one I choose to use, how can you discount my feelings? They're MINE.

Let's try to avoid telling other folks how they should feel about nicknames, ok?

DSTCHAOS 05-02-2006 06:28 PM
Re: Re: Walking the Line...
 
Quote:
Originally posted by Rain Man
I'm sorry, Marquise. I'm cool wit'cha' and got no beef with you, (chicken or fish maybe, but no beef), but whoever conceived a lot of these taboos are too full of themselves and need to humble up a bit.

My issues with your taboos listed are as follows

1. Trivial
2. Idolatrous (Just because you worship your letters don't mean I have to as well).
3. Are you talking official organization-sanctioned song or an unofficial party song? If the latter, they need to get a life and get over themselves.
4. This is the only "taboo" I actually agree with.
5. Again, that is trivial and in the long run, a heckuva lot less disrespectful than other names one could use to address them. Pick your battles wisely.
6. I have no opinion on this one way or the other.
7. Thank God this doesn't transcend to APQ and GSS (where we address one another as "frat" and "soror" on the regular with no beef whatsoever--AFAIK)
8. If it's due to National organizational protocol, I understand. Otherwise, again, it's a trivial rule.

The problem I have with most of these taboos is that IMHO they are steeped in arrogance and self-importance under the guise and illusion of "respect".
^^^ Isn't in a BGLO so his opinion really doesn't matter.

SKEEphistAKAte 05-02-2006 06:28 PM
Re: Re: Re: One GC clearly needs to know...
 
Quote:
Originally posted by AKA2D '91
Rhetorical questions: Based on what I see @ work, I'm a bit skeptical about asking these questions, but I will.
Do you respect your grandparents? Your mother? Your father? Your aunts? Your uncles?

If you are interested in an organization, do you respect that org's Founders? :confused: If you say "no" to the last one... why bother? :confused:

You don't have to respect the person, but respect the position of the person (having more experience)...
Exactly, soror. It isn't about the age, it is about the wisdom, the experience, the lessons that you can learn from that person.

DSTCHAOS 05-02-2006 06:35 PM
There are some things on the list that may be disrespectful but a lot of it is about context. Most of this stuff is based on:

where you're from
where you are
how you're "made"
how old you are in human years and/or Greek years
whether you give a damn

If I'm joking around with a Krappa friend, I'll shimmy. If I'm joking with my Ape friends I will throw up their sign and do an Ape call. If a Bruh says "wassup Soror," I'll show him Coleman Love.

Rain Man 05-02-2006 06:59 PM
Re: Re: Re: Walking the Line...
 
Quote:
Originally posted by DSTCHAOS
^^^ Isn't in a BGLO so his opinion really doesn't matter.
So you say :rolleyes:

Just K.I.M., willya?

DSTCHAOS 05-02-2006 07:04 PM
Re: Re: Re: Re: Walking the Line...
 
Quote:
Originally posted by Rain Man
So you say :rolleyes:
Duh. :)

marquise1911 05-02-2006 07:17 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by DSTCHAOS
If I'm joking around with a Krappa friend, I'll shimmy.
LOL @ Krappa:D

marquise1911 05-02-2006 07:20 PM
Quote:
Originally posted by jubilance1922
I love how folks who AREN'T members of Sigma Gamma Rho like to tell us what is trival. If we don't like being called "Rho" , why is it anyone's role to judge the "importance" of what we would like to be called.

That's like if your name was Samantha, and EVERYONE you met just shortened your name to Sam without asking your preference. Would you think it was trival then?

Its about respect folks. If I feel that its disrepectful to call me a different name than one I choose to use, how can you discount my feelings? They're MINE.

Let's try to avoid telling other folks how they should feel about nicknames, ok?
I feel you:(

Rain Man 05-02-2006 08:13 PM
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Walking the Line...
 
Quote:
Originally posted by DSTCHAOS
Duh. :)
Meaning:

Frankly, I couldn't give two snots about what you say, Delta or otherwise.

Keep it moving, keep it moving...

DSTCHAOS 05-02-2006 09:34 PM
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Walking the Line...
 
Quote:
Originally posted by Rain Man
Frankly, I couldn't give two snots about what you say, Delta or otherwise.
Sure you could. :)

Rain Man 05-02-2006 10:24 PM
I'll just say this, pointblank.
 
You know how I roll, I tell it like it is and if ya' don't like it, that's too dang bad, just K.I.M.

Frankly, if it was indeed an elder or a Founder that made these items being mentioned here taboo, that might make a difference. Because then, these taboos would be based in wisdom that was steeped in social maturity.

But frankly, that is clearly not the case here (at least I'm not naive enough to believe it).

A lot of these so-called taboos appear to have came from a recent generation (recent being the last 20 years or so--give or take maybe 5) of Greeks that were former nobodies who once they got their letters, they thought they were hot shnit and that no one could touch them, so they strutted around campus with their chests poked out and all puffed up letting their egos get totally out of control.

I am sorry, I don't care if you have been in the organization 30, 50, or 100 years, I personally cannot recognize you as an elder if your words lack WISDOM. And of the 8(?) taboos the OP posted, only one of them appeared to have any wisdom lying beneath it. One or two others I found debateable as far as wisdom was concerned. The rest was laced with ego, with no wisdom to be found. And it is for that reason that I am hard pressed to respect those "taboos".

I give great respect to that which has wisdom. I give little or no respect at all to that which has ego. And I make no apologies whatsoever for it.

Rain Man 05-02-2006 10:26 PM
Re: Re: Re: Walking the Line...
 
Quote:
Originally posted by marquise1911
My taboos aren't set in stone, but they're set in my head and my mama said my head is hard as a rock...lol!!!
Just don't head butt me and we'll be a'ight. :D

KAPPAtivating 05-02-2006 11:48 PM
Re: One GC clearly needs to know...
 
Quote:
Originally posted by SKEEphistAKAte
Take notes folks:

NEVER DISRESPECT YOUR ELDERS... and we were taught not only to respect elders of Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc. but those of other D9 organizations. It seems that most younger members of orgs these days have no grasp of that concept. I don't care if the elder member is reading your the riot act over something that doesn't even pertain to you. You are to STFU, smile, and respectfully nod.
I second that! Also, Unspoken2, the Bible tells us to respect our elders also. But I was taught that waaaayyy before I was made. That is a rule in the SOUTH! And you better reply with a "yes ma'am/yes "sir".

jubilance1922 05-02-2006 11:50 PM
Re: I'll just say this, pointblank.
 
Quote:
Originally posted by Rain Man
You know how I roll, I tell it like it is and if ya' don't like it, that's too dang bad, just K.I.M.

Frankly, if it was indeed an elder or a Founder that made these items being mentioned here taboo, that might make a difference. Because then, these taboos would be based in wisdom that was steeped in social maturity.

But frankly, that is clearly not the case here (at least I'm not naive enough to believe it).

A lot of these so-called taboos appear to have came from a recent generation (recent being the last 20 years or so--give or take maybe 5) of Greeks that were former nobodies who once they got their letters, they thought they were hot shnit and that no one could touch them, so they strutted around campus with their chests poked out and all puffed up letting their egos get totally out of control.

I am sorry, I don't care if you have been in the organization 30, 50, or 100 years, I personally cannot recognize you as an elder if your words lack WISDOM. And of the 8(?) taboos the OP posted, only one of them appeared to have any wisdom lying beneath it. One or two others I found debateable as far as wisdom was concerned. The rest was laced with ego, with no wisdom to be found. And it is for that reason that I am hard pressed to respect those "taboos".

I give great respect to that which has wisdom. I give little or no respect at all to that which has ego. And I make no apologies whatsoever for it.
:rolleyes:

All you can do is talk about what YOU consider taboo...

Lucky for the D9, we dont consult non-members when deciding what's taboo and what's not.

DSTCHAOS 05-03-2006 12:23 AM
Re: I'll just say this, pointblank.
 
Quote:
Originally posted by Rain Man
You know how I roll, I tell it like it is and if ya' don't like it, that's too dang bad, just K.I.M.

Frankly, if it was indeed an elder or a Founder that made these items being mentioned here taboo, that might make a difference. Because then, these taboos would be based in wisdom that was steeped in social maturity.

But frankly, that is clearly not the case here (at least I'm not naive enough to believe it).

A lot of these so-called taboos appear to have came from a recent generation (recent being the last 20 years or so--give or take maybe 5) of Greeks that were former nobodies who once they got their letters, they thought they were hot shnit and that no one could touch them, so they strutted around campus with their chests poked out and all puffed up letting their egos get totally out of control.

I am sorry, I don't care if you have been in the organization 30, 50, or 100 years, I personally cannot recognize you as an elder if your words lack WISDOM. And of the 8(?) taboos the OP posted, only one of them appeared to have any wisdom lying beneath it. One or two others I found debateable as far as wisdom was concerned. The rest was laced with ego, with no wisdom to be found. And it is for that reason that I am hard pressed to respect those "taboos".

I give great respect to that which has wisdom. I give little or no respect at all to that which has ego. And I make no apologies whatsoever for it.
Who solicited Rain Man for this dissertation? No one, as always.

DSTCHAOS 05-03-2006 12:24 AM
Re: Re: I'll just say this, pointblank.
 
Quote:
Originally posted by jubilance1922
:rolleyes:

All you can do is talk about what YOU consider taboo...

Lucky for the D9, we dont consult non-members when deciding what's taboo and what's not.
Which goes back to my original post to him. He stays pressed about anything NPHC, though. :)

Rain Man 05-03-2006 12:30 AM
Re: Re: I'll just say this, pointblank.
 
Quote:
Originally posted by jubilance1922
:rolleyes:

All you can do is talk about what YOU consider taboo...

Lucky for the D9, we dont consult non-members when deciding what's taboo and what's not.
I'm very glad to hear a soror of SGRho say that, because what that tells me is that as a non-member of the NPHC, I am not subject to or am obligated to adhere to these "taboos".

Thank you for clearing that up. I feel much better now. ;)

Carry on...

Rain Man 05-03-2006 12:32 AM
Re: Re: Re: I'll just say this, pointblank.
 
Quote:
Originally posted by DSTCHAOS
Which goes back to my original post to him. He stays pressed about anything NPHC, though. :)
Spoken like a true member of the Rain Man Fan Club.

Whereever I go, DSTCHAOS is sure to follow. She stays pressed about anything Rain Man, though, doesn't she?

DSTCHAOS 05-03-2006 12:36 AM
Re: Re: Re: Re: I'll just say this, pointblank.
 
Quote:
Originally posted by Rain Man
gibberish
BGLO members hurt your feelings over a decade ago and you have yet to get over it. Whenever someone alludes to BGLOdom in any way, you swoop in to shed "light" on the subject as a bitter outsider. You need to start the healing process sooner or later. I wish you luck.

Rain Man 05-03-2006 12:46 AM
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I'll just say this, pointblank.
 
Quote:
Originally posted by DSTCHAOS
BGLO members hurt your feelings over a decade ago and you have yet to get over it. Whenever someone alludes to BGLOdom in any way, you swoop in to shed "light" on the subject as a bitter outsider. You need to start the healing process sooner or later. I wish you luck.
Yawn! *looks at watch and sees it is a quarter of one*

Good night, my secret admirer.

ladygreek 05-03-2006 01:12 AM
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I'll just say this, pointblank.
 
Quote:
Originally posted by DSTCHAOS
BGLO members hurt your feelings over a decade ago and you have yet to get over it. Whenever someone alludes to BGLOdom in any way, you swoop in to shed "light" on the subject as a bitter outsider. You need to start the healing process sooner or later. I wish you luck.
Daught, I would send you to the corner, but I am too busy laughing.

Mom

ladygreek 05-03-2006 01:30 AM
Re: Walking the Line...
 
Quote:
Originally posted by marquise1911
What's considered taboo in Greek life across the board??? List the things that are considered taboo either on your campus or across the board. Nothing secret of course. If you find something disputable, it’s ok to disagree.

Here's a few things I've learned and still hold on to...

1. Never do someone else’s hand signs, even if dissing, if necessary modify to appear similar, but NEVER put up someone’s hand signs.
2. Never, ever, ever touch another Greeks paraphernalia, even with permission.
3. When another organizations national/regional song is on, you do not stroll or obstruct them in any way.
4. Never argue with another Greek in public.
5. Never call a Sigma Gamma Rho a “Rho”, a Delta a “DST”, or an AKA an “AKah” (seen as very disrespectful where I’m from).
6. Train only if you’re an Alpha, Hop only if you’re a Que, Shimmy only if you’re a Kappa, and Triple step only if you're a Sigma.
7. Even if an unofficial bond exists, never refer to an AKA or Delta as “soror” (as far as KAPsi is concerned).
8. Never wear more than one piece of pari.
Responding to the topic at hand:
1) hand/arm signs are a relatively recent phenomenon and unofficial. So any rules applied to them are also unofficial. But I understand the intent of not dissing another orgs sign.

2) Not touching nalia? So if I have on a DST shirt I can't hug somebody?

3)What do you mean by national/ regional songs? Our official songs are not to be done at a party anyway.

4) But it is okay to argue with them or point out their fallacies on a public message board?

5) I am a DST. Nothing wrong with that.

6) Any don't do steps for the sororities?

7) I do agree that only my sorors should call me that.

8) I wear a pinky ring and an ankle bracelet all the time and sometimes I even put on a necklace, a pin, or a t-shirt. And at a chapter retreat we are naliaed down. What is more important is wearing 'nalia in good taste.

DSTCHAOS 05-03-2006 02:39 AM
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I'll just say this, pointblank.
 
Quote:
Originally posted by ladygreek
Daught, I would send you to the corner, but I am too busy laughing.

Mom
I wished him luck. *adjusting halo*


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