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GreekLove 04-28-2006 02:06 PM

NPC Question!!!
 
Okay, I am an officer for our NPC at my University, and I am aware that I am going to be disaffiliated from my sorority for recruitment purposes. However, here's the problem:

Our school is out May 4th and Recruitment Week is not until August 28th. Our Greek Advisor told us that we had to be disaffiliated from our organizations for that whole time period--no contact with our organizations, letters, etc.

I got my NPC manual out and it says that the Recruitment team can only be disaffiliated for a period not to exceed 30 days. My manual is old, so I was wondering if this is still correct? Please help! Any advice on what to do?

33girl 04-28-2006 02:09 PM

Actually I thought they updated the manual to say exactly what you did - 30 days is the max.

How on earth is your Greek advisor going to know, anyway - school is out for the summer!!

GreekLove 04-28-2006 02:21 PM

You would be surprised! She's the type of Greek advisor that is so caught up in everybody's personal lives that she's knows all the dirt that goes on. We only have 4 sororities on campus with a relatively small campus (less than 8000 students), so its easy for someone to find out what someone else is doing.

PhoenixAzul 04-28-2006 02:34 PM

I'd point it out to her...as in actually bring the physical NPC manual to her. She may just not be aware.

WLFEO 04-28-2006 05:01 PM

30 days is correct.

flirt5721 04-28-2006 06:05 PM

At our school they say the same thing. The only difference is that we can hang out with the Gamma Chi/Rho Chi or whatever at any place that is 21 or over or at their house.

KSUViolet06 04-28-2006 09:11 PM

Our Panhellenic is trying something like the situation the original poster describes. I think it's really odd.

It's more of a "gradual disaffiliation". Recruitment isn't until September, but starting last week, the SRC's (Recruitment Counselors) are supposed to refrain from wearing stitched letters, and by the end of the semester, there should be no mention of their GLO on their facebook/Myspace pages, but they are still allowed to attend chapter functions and associate with members.

Actual disaffiliation doesn't occur until a few weeks before recruitment in the fall, and that is when the full NPC Green Book Recruitment Counselor regulations go into effect.

GreekLove 04-29-2006 12:56 AM

Okay, so I confronted our Greek Life Advisor and told her about the handbook, including the page number, etc. and she said that our school has had a summer disaffiliation regulation locally. I then asked her to see the regulation in writing, just because I want to clearly understand what makes our school so special that we can't follow the NPC rules, and she told me that it is not in writing; it is just a "verbal agreement" among sororities on campus. :(

I called my sorority chapter advisor and she's going to have a meeting with her and she has also called our local NPC rep. I'm not trying to cause problems--just understand our local rules and question why we have let this go on for so long if it is against the rules!

BabyPiNK_FL 04-29-2006 03:45 AM

Go you! I'm really proud of you to take a stand like that and try to get some results. I think we have a similar problem like that at my school but I"m not 100% sure. I do know that at least partial dissafiliation takes place on either June or May 4th.

PM_Mama00 04-29-2006 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by GreekLove
Okay, so I confronted our Greek Life Advisor and told her about the handbook, including the page number, etc. and she said that our school has had a summer disaffiliation regulation locally. I then asked her to see the regulation in writing, just because I want to clearly understand what makes our school so special that we can't follow the NPC rules, and she told me that it is not in writing; it is just a "verbal agreement" among sororities on campus. :(

I called my sorority chapter advisor and she's going to have a meeting with her and she has also called our local NPC rep. I'm not trying to cause problems--just understand our local rules and question why we have let this go on for so long if it is against the rules!

Are you a commuter or part-commuter campus? Are a lot of students on campus during the summer?

Our Rho Gammas (dammit I still want to say Rho Chi!) disaffiliate May 1st until Bid Day which could be as late as mid-September. We are a commuter only school and people are always on campus or hanging out in town so it's really important for our Rho Gams to disaffiliate. They can hang out with sisters in a private setting.

texas*princess 04-29-2006 02:32 PM

slightly O/T
 
It's been mentioned before I"m sure, but it seems kind of useless to take off the greek affiliation from myspace/facebook, etc.

Sure you will have other greeks as your myspace/facebook friends, but it's kinda obvious you're an ABC when you have 150 ABC sisters as your myspace/facebook friends and only 40 or so members of each of the other organizations on your contact list... :)

BabyPiNK_FL 04-29-2006 07:08 PM

Honestly it's just pointless all together. All these girls that wanna rush go and ask fraternity men anything they want to know including:

Which Rho Gamma is what?
Which chapter is the "best"?
etc. etc. etc.

We do it for no valid reason other than to force them to ask fraternity guys these things instead of us! LOL

</rant>

SoCalGirl 04-29-2006 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JocelynC
Our Panhellenic is trying something like the situation the original poster describes. I think it's really odd.

It's more of a "gradual disaffiliation". Recruitment isn't until September, but starting last week, the SRC's (Recruitment Counselors) are supposed to refrain from wearing stitched letters, and by the end of the semester, there should be no mention of their GLO on their facebook/Myspace pages, but they are still allowed to attend chapter functions and associate with members.

Actual disaffiliation doesn't occur until a few weeks before recruitment in the fall, and that is when the full NPC Green Book Recruitment Counselor regulations go into effect.

They do something like this for the Rho Gamma's where I went to school. Starting spring quarter they can't wear letters but can attend events. ALL sorority members have to remove letters from their cars and facebook/mypage members. I think it's ridiculous.

flirt5721 04-30-2006 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BabyPiNK_FL
Honestly it's just pointless all together. All these girls that wanna rush go and ask fraternity men anything they want to know including:

Which Rho Gamma is what?
Which chapter is the "best"?
etc. etc. etc.

We do it for no valid reason other than to force them to ask fraternity guys these things instead of us! LOL

</rant>

That is so true. Some guys just don't understand why the sororities do thing the way they do. A PNM will find out if she really wants to which Gamma Chi/Rho Chi belongs to which house.

KSUViolet06 04-30-2006 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by flirt5721
That is so true. Some guys just don't understand why the sororities do thing the way they do. A PNM will find out if she really wants to which Gamma Chi/Rho Chi belongs to which house.
Yeah. It's not so much a big deal if someone finds out, as long as that person who does know keeps it to herself. We always have alot of sophomores going through who have lots of friends in chapters, so they know the affiliations of the SRC's. They are just on the honor system not to tell anyone else in their group.

raincoat 04-30-2006 06:42 PM

Re: slightly O/T
 
Quote:

Originally posted by texas*princess
It's been mentioned before I"m sure, but it seems kind of useless to take off the greek affiliation from myspace/facebook, etc.

Sure you will have other greeks as your myspace/facebook friends, but it's kinda obvious you're an ABC when you have 150 ABC sisters as your myspace/facebook friends and only 40 or so members of each of the other organizations on your contact list... :)

I'm not sure if this is also true on MySpace, but on Facebook you can make your profile private so that only your friends could see it. That way PNMs would not be able to see the friends of Rho Chis.

Denise_DPhiE 05-02-2006 08:55 AM

Re: NPC Question!!!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by GreekLove
Okay, I am an officer for our NPC at my University...
30 days is correct but you need to change your terminology. You campus does not have an NPC. There is only one NPC. Your campus has a College Panhellenic, or Panhellenic Council or just Panhel, not an NPC (the N is for National). This drives me crazy when talking to collegians (of all NPC groups).

Denise

amanda6035 07-20-2007 11:07 AM

Our campus has the whole summer rule as well - last day of spring semester (first week of May), until bid day (end of August) is disaffiliation. Wether or not it's in writing, I'm not sure of, since this is the 2nd year panhellenic has been on my campus, and the first year we've done disaffiliation. The reason they decided to do it for the whole summer is because our campus holds 3 different freshman orientations throughout the summer - one each month, and it's stupid if the incoming freshman are going to meet you as an "ABC" or an "XYZ" but when school actually starts, that person is disaffiliated. The only people to disaffiliate are the panhellenic president and the panhellenic vice president. The other panhellenic delegates (2 from each chapter) are still affiliated.

Zillini 07-20-2007 11:34 AM

Here's my general understanding about University policy vs NPC vs campus Panhellenic vs GLO specific. A University Admin can make whatever policy it wishes and the sororities must abide by it because we are on campus at their invitation. The national organizations and/or NPC can attempt to negotiate with Admin, but in the end we are obligated to abide by the Univ's rules. Campus Panhellenic is required to abide by the Univ's rules and NPC's. If any of those are different than our own GLO's, we are obligated to follow our GLO policies (which should already be in line with NPC) unless we receive permission to follow the campuses. Does that make sense? :)

So in this case if it's the University that is saying dissaffiliation must be for the whole summer and not just the 30 days as stated in the Green Book, then there is not much that can be done aside from contacting your national org and/or national NPC delegate and hoping they can change Admin's mind. If it's your campus Panhellenic making this policy, then your national NPC delegate needs to work with your NPC Area Advisor to bring them in line with NPC policy.

33girl 07-20-2007 12:06 PM

That would be fine if it was WRITTEN in the campus Panhellenic's rules, but this "verbal agreement" stuff is BS. I fail to see how groups whose officers change every year can have any sort of verbal agreement, anyway.

adpiucf 07-20-2007 01:12 PM

Good for you for questioning it and doing your homework. Let us know how it works out.

I was a PX in the 90's. Disaffiliation began at the end of the spring semester and was held through Bid Day. We could hang out with our sisters until the week before recruitment. No letters on cars, apparel, book bags, etc.

This was in the days before MySpace and Facebook, naturally, but it was still hard. We had lots of people on campus over the summer, ranging from first semester freshmen taking summer classes to the usual suspects-- our campus wasn't as dead as a lot of other schools in the summer b/c we aren't located in a traditional college town.

howtheSunrose 07-20-2007 02:19 PM

Ditto on the summer disaffiliating. Our gamma chis have to be off facebook from the last day of classes to Bid Day. Panhellenic Exectutive officers must also leave facebook and disaffilate. Sorority members must their profiles private and are not allowed to add, message, or IM any members before Bid Day. I think it's sort of dumb to just make Gamma Chis & Panhellenic Exec officers make their profiles private. Anyone could just log on with a male friend's name and go through pictures..figure out who you are.

AlphaFrog 07-20-2007 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adpiucf (Post 1488854)
Let us know how it works out.

If she's still around, she could probably let us know how it worked out...since it happened a year ago.


Dates, people, dates.:p;)

AUAZD2001 07-22-2007 11:27 AM

At Auburn, we just went to last years yearbook to see what sorority our rho chi was in.


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