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AXEAM 04-27-2006 03:46 PM

Sorry they closed your thread about Bush Starang21 but...
 
That's how they roll when it comes to criticism of Bush....yet they're always complaining about the liberal media. It seems that two things Bush supporters hate most are (1) Open and fair debates and (2) A fair fight.

Rudey 04-27-2006 04:02 PM

Re: Sorry they closed your thread about Bush Starang21 but...
 
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Originally posted by AXEAM
That's how they roll when it comes to criticism of Bush....yet they're always complaining about the liberal media. It seems that two things Bush supporters hate most are (1) Open and fair debates and (2) A fair fight.
Two liberals moderate this forum, one a Democrat and another a liberal foreigner that isn't voting in our elections (I don't think he is anyway).

Sorry to burst that bubble.

I agree it should be opened because I wanted to respond to one specific girl in there :(

-Rudey

KSigkid 04-27-2006 04:12 PM

Re: Sorry they closed your thread about Bush Starang21 but...
 
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Originally posted by AXEAM
That's how they roll when it comes to criticism of Bush....yet they're always complaining about the liberal media. It seems that two things Bush supporters hate most are (1) Open and fair debates and (2) A fair fight.
Yeah, you're way off. Moe.ron and TKE are frequent critics of the president. If anything, they'd be more likely to let a thread like that continue.

Also, I wouldn't paint all Bush supporters with a broad stroke (just as I wouldn't paint all Kerry/Gore/whoever supporters with one stroke), but if you want to generalize, go right ahead. Just know that it's not a fair generalization.

Kevin 04-27-2006 04:12 PM

How do Bush supporters not like open and fair debates?

Why does a debate have to be a fight? I'm not sure what you're trying to say by saying "fair fight," but my guess is that you think that any political debate has to be a fight? Why don't you explain that for us.

AXEAM (sp), I'm not sure what you're background is, but you should know better than to think you could get away with saying something like this without someone calling your hand.

KSigkid 04-27-2006 04:14 PM

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Originally posted by ktsnake
How do conservatives not like open and fair debates?

Why does a debate have to be a fight? I'm not sure what you're trying to say by saying "fair fight," but my guess is that you think that any political debate has to be a fight? Why don't you explain that for us.

Or that if conservatives give an alternate side of the debate, we're not being "open and fair."

AXEAM 04-27-2006 04:17 PM

Action speaks louder then words I started several threads that were critical of Bush and w/o fail they were always closed now S.21 thread is closed.



(1) Open debate: closure of threads critical of Bush (N&P forum).

(2) Fair fight : Attacking those who are critical of Bush yet they seem to have forgotten how they dragged Clinton over the coals ...yet he didn't make half the dumb decisions of Bush.

Kevin 04-27-2006 04:20 PM

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Originally posted by AXEAM
Action speaks louder then words I started several threads that were critical of Bush and w/o fail they were always closed now S.21 thread is closed.
The threads are being closed due to personal attacks. If people can't 'play nice,' threads will be deleted.

I hate to characterize others, but I don't think I'll get much argument from the mods in this forum when I say that compared with America's political center, they are way over on the left.

Bottom line -- if you feel you are being discriminated against because of your political views, you might want to look to someone besides Bush supporters to blame. They had nothing to do with it. You might instead call into question some of the debating tactics (i.e., personal attacks) that are all too common on both sides of these "fights" as you call them.

KSigkid 04-27-2006 04:23 PM

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Originally posted by ktsnake
I hate to characterize others, but I don't think I'll get much argument from the mods in this forum when I say that compared with America's political center, they are way over on the left.

Bottom line -- if you feel you are being discriminated against because of your political views, you might want to look to someone besides Bush supporters to blame. They had nothing to do with it. You might instead call into question some of the debating tactics (i.e., personal attacks) that are all too common on both sides of these "fights" as you call them.

Exactly - couldn't have said it better myself. People on both sides of the aisle have had problems being civil in the past, and to blame it on only one side doesn't make sense.

Rudey 04-27-2006 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AXEAM
Action speaks louder then words I started several threads that were critical of Bush and w/o fail they were always closed now S.21 thread is closed.



(1) Open debate: closure of threads critical of Bush (N&P forum).

(2) Fair fight : Attacking those who are critical of Bush yet they seem to have forgotten how they dragged Clinton over the coals ...yet he didn't make half the dumb decisions of Bush.

So what you're saying is that liberal Democrats are closing threads about Bush? I guess they don't like open debates and I'm not so sure you're going to find someone that was on GC during Clinton's term that talked bad about him so perhaps that's invalid.

But yeah, you're right about liberal Democrats closing threads about Bush :P

-Rudey

AXEAM 04-27-2006 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ktsnake
The threads are being closed due to personal attacks. If people can't 'play nice,' threads will be deleted.

I hate to characterize others, but I don't think I'll get much argument from the mods in this forum when I say that compared with America's political center, they are way over on the left.

Bottom line -- if you feel you are being discriminated against because of your political views, you might want to look to someone besides Bush supporters to blame. They had nothing to do with it. You might instead call into question some of the debating tactics (i.e., personal attacks) that are all too common on both sides of these "fights" as you call them.

How about sending a warning to the parties who engage in personal attacks that way others who have an opinion about the thread can post w/o being denied access.

Rudey 04-27-2006 05:09 PM

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Originally posted by AXEAM
How about sending a warning to the parties who engage in personal attacks that way others who have an opinion about the thread can post w/o being denied access.
In all honesty I didn't see a personal attack in the last thread that was closed. I don't understand what went wrong there.

-Rudey

Tom Earp 04-27-2006 06:29 PM

Rudey, does BS Talk or BS Walk?;)

Some will beleive what they want or dont want!

Correcto Mundo?;)

Hell, I am a Republican Independent and I Dont Like any of Thems!:D

KillarneyRose 04-27-2006 06:58 PM

Re: Re: Sorry they closed your thread about Bush Starang21 but...
 
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Originally posted by Rudey
Two liberals moderate this forum, one a Democrat and another a liberal foreigner that isn't voting in our elections (I don't think he is anyway).

Yeah, it's not like the thread was in my forum! :D :p

starang21 04-27-2006 08:12 PM

Re: Sorry they closed your thread about Bush Starang21 but...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by AXEAM
That's how they roll when it comes to criticism of Bush....yet they're always complaining about the liberal media. It seems that two things Bush supporters hate most are (1) Open and fair debates and (2) A fair fight.
that's how it happens on this site mi amigo. eehh, them's the breaks. soft hearted people can't take criticism very well.

i do applaud those who actually put thought into their criticism of the article, though.

AXEAM 04-27-2006 10:15 PM

Re: Re: Sorry they closed your thread about Bush Starang21 but...
 
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Originally posted by starang21
that's how it happens on this site mi amigo. eehh, them's the breaks. soft hearted people can't take criticism very well.

i do applaud those who actually put thought into their criticism of the article, though.

Yeah I quess some people talk loud but carry a little stick....if the mods didn't close the thread then the question is who did? and why?

Rudey 04-27-2006 10:20 PM

Re: Re: Re: Sorry they closed your thread about Bush Starang21 but...
 
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Originally posted by AXEAM
Yeah I quess some people talk loud but carry a little stick....if the mods didn't close the thread then the question is who did? and why?
(Moderated by: moe.ron, The1calledTKE)

That's what it says at the top of this forum. You can try PM'ing them. If they tell you let me know too because I'm interested.

-Rudey
--Back to watching me some Earl

starang21 04-27-2006 11:07 PM

Re: Re: Re: Sorry they closed your thread about Bush Starang21 but...
 
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Originally posted by AXEAM
Yeah I quess some people talk loud but carry a little stick....if the mods didn't close the thread then the question is who did? and why?
they probably did..but that's how this site is. once things get a little heated, the mods are quick to close a hot thread. that shit doesn't get played on PP, though.

Kevin 04-27-2006 11:26 PM

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Originally posted by AXEAM
How about sending a warning to the parties who engage in personal attacks that way others who have an opinion about the thread can post w/o being denied access.
Actually, I'm not a mod in this forum. You really need to take that up with the mods in this forum. Other than that, I don't consider it my place to comment on how another mod chooses to run his or her forum (at least not here).

Just to be clear, mods only have their moderating powers in the forums to which they are assigned. My account, for example is only different from yours in that I can do certain things in the Sigma Nu and Risk Mangement forums.

The1calledTKE 04-27-2006 11:52 PM

There were personal attacks in the thread. The attacks were deleted and the thread closed. It doesn't matter the topic of a thread, attacks are not tolerated. Debates are not going back an forth caling the other person stupid. Warning or asking people to stop personal attacks means nothing unless it comes from the admin.


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