Initation
 

Hey guys I had a question, I was in a fraternity last semester in college and was getting ready to initatie at the begining of this semester. However, durring inatiton (which lasts 3 weeks), and it started the 2nd week of class, I was really busy I understand that iniation is important. But I had two tests on the last week of iniation, and since we only had one week of class before we were busier than hell...I had to quit like three days before activation. I needed to study for my tests, did I do the right thing?

I find it very odd that the chapter in question wouldn't make some accomodation or help you. I have never heard of anything like that.

Yeah, that is pretty bad as ar as chapter programming goes. I'm assuming that everyone else kept the same or a similar schedule?

School should come first, so if you think it kept your academic performance up to standards, you did the right thing.

And I joined because I was promised help with classes which I got none...I just didn't like it at all. The house smelled like feet, there were no chicks, and the guys there were total douchebags so I moved out before Initation...lucky for me

Also they just told me that they would help if my grades suffered to the point "beyond repair" and this is comming from a guy with like a 2.21-2.25 GPA. See if I loose points on a test I can't exactly get the points back

Unfortunately, Rush is a time of such BS.

Good luck to you if you decide to go through it again. Not all fraternities are the same.

YEah I want to join a good one...one that doesn't smell like feet, one with chicks, and guys that aren't D-Bags
But I do want to join another one

Try a professional or service fraternity. They will be more apt to help you with your work, will probably be co-ed, and some of them party just as hard as any social organization on campus.

Professional or service?

I guess it varies from campus to campus. I can say that my experience is that what you are saying is typically not the case. Apparently, our experiences vary though.

I don't want to get into a pissing match on this, but I really never felt like we had to compete socially with the service and professional organizations. As for professional organizations, my experience is that they have one business meeting per month, MAYBE a speaker...

Many chapters take their academics seriously. Some have very well kept up test banks as well as serious 'study hours' at the chapter house. I know that my chapter was extremely serious about these things. In fact, where the original poster's example was concerned, the brother who told him not to worry would not have been in that position, he would have been on social probation with mandatory study time at the house.

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-Rudey

No. Please don't. I don't think my service fraternity wants someone who says "I don't want there to be people who smell like feet."

No I was saying that the house smelled like feet, I don't dislike smelly people...I just like where I live to smell normal.

Something about yur post tells me you are just playing with us. It seems a little insincere. Chicks? Puh-leese!!!

ETA - Initiation isn't a three week long process. It's a day/night or two of ceremonies max.

No I am completely sincere in this, it's just that they said there would be a "social" environment...when all it was were just a bunch of dudes drinking by themselves...not exactly what I would call cool. I like some parties where I can meet some nice ladies...not in a creepy way but I expect there atleast to be SOME females at a party...the dude to chick ratio should be somewhere AROUND 1 to 1 not like 10 to 1

Oh BTW, our initation lasted three weeks long...and pledging lasted the entire first semester.

Moved to GL forum.

Whats wrong with the chicks part? It's the feet part that's bizarre to me lol

-Rudey

Which organization takes 3 weeks to initiate?

Well when I de-pleged I took an oath not to tell the secrects of my fraternity...but think Eqularital __________ or Isometric ________. It's a non-GLO

Something about this thread, other than the house you've described, smells a little dirty.
However, if you are for real - why ask strangers if you did the right thing? You're a grown up now (almost), so you should be able to answer for yourself whether quitting an organization that is a detriment to your social life and academic life is the right thing. I'm glad you changed from "one with chicks" to " like some parties where I can meet some nice ladies...not in a creepy way but I expect there atleast to be SOME females at a party...". I'm almost convinced this is a real situation.

Well when I see the people from my old fraternity on campus they look at me like I'm worthless...and I feel like a total tool for quiting. Some of my old friends that were in the fraternity understand why I did what I did...and others haven't looked at me the same. I was just wondering what other greeks thought, and I'd perfer to keep things annoymous.

I know what you're saying and
everything. I'm not saying they throw better
parties or anything like that, but Greeksupporter
wanted a fraternity with 'chicks'.
The only greek letter
orgs that I know are co-ed are those
organizations and a few locals.
In addition, it's really about the work one is
willing to put into the org.
If you don't want a house that smells like feet,
clean it up and light some incense.
If you want to meet girls (which is what I
think Greeksupporter was after),
go talk to them and invite them over
for cookies or something.
Have a few of them help with homework,
then you can kill two birds with one stone.

And even though you
already depledged, my
advice could suit you
throughout the rest of your
undergraduate experice. As far
as dirty looks and hard feelings,
they will subside eventually, but
people are rather adverse to those
that quit mid-season.

So you're an ex-Triangle.

There's nothing wrong with that. It's funny though, my experience with the Triangles at Oklahoma U (I didn't go to OU, but spent a great deal of time socializing there) is that they pretty much always had the best grades on campus. When grade reports came out, the top house would be the "top house besides triangle" when it came to grades.

I agree everyone I know is similar, probably the hardest working guys I've met and always with phenomenal grades.

Not the chapter I was in, their GPA always sucked and they seemed to like to drink more than study...and it's not chicks I was after too. I just don't like most of my parties to be male and yes I tried febreeze but it was like shooting a frieght train with a BB Gun...useless, and it was hard to get women to come over because we were considered to be 'nerds' or 'loosers' and it seemed to be that most of the guys there cared more about pornography rather than meeting real women. And I didn't quit mid season, because it was too hard. I quit because my grades are more important than my socail life or the fraternity I was in, I'm trying to get into Law School. I want to do Intelectual Property law, I can't let a whole semester be thrown away due to initation.

Well no wonder you had issues cause something isn't right. From the Triangle Fraternity web site.

"Triangle limits its membership to students majoring in engineering, architecture, and the sciences."

To be an IP lawyer, you need to have a background in science. I don't even think you can sit for the IP bar unless you've taken a certain amount of science classes.

Plus, many people do something completely different for their Pre-Law BS or BA. There was a girl who was Pre-Law who was getting a BA in Music Non-comp. He could very well be a Science major for his BS.

Exactly, we're not all history majors.
Well, I was, but I was also a journalism major.

Never mind, I'm not backing up my point at all.

Basically, what you just said is correct. One of the best trial lawyers in Boston got his bachelors in fine art, and is an accomplished painter.

Ok, killer, lets cut to the chase. The REAL reason you quit is the following...

This is the EXCUSE you gave...

So, this is what I think happened. You'd decided that you want to pursue this IP law degree and going through rush you were like, "Hey, An Engineering and Science geared social Fraternity, that will look GREAT on my resume!" (and I'm not blaming you man, if that was my cup of tea I would come to the same conclusion). So you joined, and surprise, surprise, the social aspect is somewhat lacking compared to the true social fraternities. Chances are, you had buddies that joined the social frats and you saw them having a blast. You began to question your decision, thinking that you shoudln't have sacrificed a great social scene for a resume builder. It was at this point you started to look for an excuse to drop out, and VOILA, finals gave you just that excuse.

Nothing upsets me more than guys who use grades as an excuse to quit Greek Life. I graduated with a 3+ GPA and was active in a variety of other organizations besides my fratenrity. I had numerous brothers who were constant 4.0 performers and went on to law school and med school at Harvard and Yale(not trying to bring up that damn 'elite' argument again, but y'all get my drift). So I'm callin BS on the academic reasons for quitting.

I got a bachelor of music and then went on to law school. Since law schools don't much care what you major in, the advice will frequently be given to major in something you really enjoy -- you're likely to make better grades, which will help you get in law school.

Also why Elle Woods was able to go to Harvard Law with a BS in Fashion. Ok, now I'm being silly, but you get the point.

I don't know enough about the guy to come to a conlcusion as to what his intentions were/are. I don't think it's fair to assume a lot of stuff that you don't know for sure, then proceed to indict someone based on those assumptions. Unless you live in Durham County, I'm not sure where some of ya'll pick that up.

What I get is that he's actually interested in going back through Rush. A good friend of mine (fellow founding member) quit one of the more established fraternities on our campus primarily due to the severe hazing, and in part due to the fact that the house was probably a health hazard. He ended up being President of our chapter (he was President of his pledge class before he quit).

Sometimes people have legitimate reasons for dropping. The bottom line is that he didn't enjoy his experience. I don't want anyone in my fraternity who isn't enjoying the overall experience. There is no guarantee that anyone will have a good time all the time in whatever chapter they are in. In fact, such an expectation isn't realistic.

At any rate, I wish him luck on trying to find a new home.

Well, of course, Elle did "feel comfortable using legal jargon in everyday life."

And she had a 4.0 and got an "A" in History of Polka-dots. She was one smart chick. Although I think getting a 4.0 in any major at UCLA is pretty darn good.

Actually I was told not to study durring initation three times durring the three week initation process...I do think you can get good grades and be greek which is why an a supporter of greek life. So don't call BS on something you don't know jack about.

YOU CAN'T HATE SOMEONE WHO'S STORY YOU DO NOT KNOW

I agree.

Yeah I mean I can take a lot, but when I rushed that place and they told me that they won't prevent me from studying and for three weeks they tell me to lay off the books when I have two tests in less than a week, that's where I draw the line

You did the right thing. I know that in general, or at least according to my experience, Triangle has always been known to be one of the most if not THE most studious house wherever they are.