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GA-Beta 04-22-2006 05:27 PM

Shorts? Another UGa problem
 
Guys in short shorts aren’t cool
Published , April 20, 2006, 06:00:01 AM EDT
UGa newspaper


Who said it was attractive for guys on campus to wear shorts that show off their tan lines? If you don’t know what I’m talking about, pay attention for the short shorts that frat guys wear and the hairless thighs they inevitably expose.

It’s a problem that has plagued the University for years now, ever since I was a freshman. I started noticing these short shorts and the types of guys who wore them when I lived in the dorms.

At first, I thought it was just a troubled phase these guys were going through. I assumed they just wore short shorts because they had no better fashion sense.

But I was wrong. It seems as if these short shorts are a trend now, and every frat guy on our campus wears them.

I usually get into one of my classes about five minutes early, only to wait around for the lecture to start. The other day, my time was instead consumed by staring at the amount of skin this particular guy was showing off.

I usually don’t take pride in noticing other men’s legs, but since his shorts were more than halfway up his thighs when he sat down, I couldn’t help but stare in disgust. It usually doesn’t bother me this much, but then I started looking around the room.

Seven out of the 16 other guys in the room suffered from the same problem: extremely short shorts. And most of them, I know from observing the shirts they wear, are in fraternities.

I’ve started concluding on my own that our traditional Greek fraternities on campus breed short shorts-wearing guys. It’s like they have their only style, the complete “frat-tastic” guy. You can always pick them out on campus because they all walk together.

And if you catch two or three pairs of semi-hairy legs together, it’s not women who forgot to shave that morning. It’s these guys who think that wearing short shorts is appealing. Not only do their short shorts give them away, but they almost always wear pastel colored T-shirts that flaunt their fraternity social. They seem to always model the dark sunglasses with the croakie that fastens their sunglasses to their head, too, as if their sunglasses are going to fall off anyways.

As much as it confuses me as to why all these fraternity guys dress the same, I really don’t see the problem ever going away. Nothing bothers me as much as those short shorts, though. If only they could just not wear short shorts, the world would probably be a much better place.

You know, I appreciate walking around the Chemistry building because my chances of seeing frat guys’ leg skin are less than those on Milledge Avenue. For you fraternity guys, I beg of you: be different, stand out. But please, wear longer shorts. Showing too much skin in your thigh area is definitely not attractive.

— Jeff Czech is a senior from Martinez majoring in marketing.

KillarneyRose 04-22-2006 09:22 PM

Hmmm, wonder if it's jean shorts.

UofISigKap 04-22-2006 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KillarneyRose
Hmmm, wonder if it's jean shorts.
Did anyone else chuckle at this and think "jorts?"

sdbeta1 04-22-2006 10:02 PM

Re: Shorts? Another UGa problem
 
Please tell me that this article was a joke. I just have too many things to say about it.

Munchkin03 04-22-2006 10:17 PM

http://www.nostalgiacentral.com/imag.../wham_0003.jpg

SoCalGirl 04-22-2006 11:00 PM

Can someone post a picture of the ultimate "fratty" wearing this uniform of short shorts, pastel t-shirts, and croakies?

I've never seen a college student wearing croakies, ever. I think if any guy at my alma mater wore that outfit he'd quickly get a beat down.

sdbeta1 04-23-2006 12:24 AM

Taken from an online response to the student newspaper where the aboved article was published.

Quote:

If the principles of journalism require that you must criticize the establishment at all costs, by all means, be trendy and bash the Greek system—it’s never been done before. In lieu of a scandal or incident that could really expose them, let’s go back to the default and stereotype them. My response to your article about short shorts is pretty simple. We like the way they look. We like they way they feel. We don our short shorts, date-night shirts, and croakies (can’t leave out the leather flip-flops and loafers either) for the same reason you choose to gel your hair, wear cargo-capris, and of course—top it off with a nice tight fitting polo with collar turned up (since that’s what all of ya’ll wear). The conservative look is an appropriate, established look and that is why it is so popular. That’s not to say that it is the ONLY good look. You could argue that the “frat uniform” is contrary to individuality and creativity and is nothing more than conformity. However, individuality and creativity are determined by things like will power, discipline, confidence, and vision—not by the length of your shorts. I beg of you: be different, stand out; write about something worth more than the paper it’s published on.

PM_Mama00 04-23-2006 10:32 AM

Why would guys want to wear short shorts? I'm picturing guys in the 70s with those really short ones that had a strip down the side, rollerskating at the local roller rink to some disco. Can someone post a pic of what they are talking about?

SOPi_Jawbreaker 04-23-2006 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PM_Mama00
Why would guys want to wear short shorts? I'm picturing guys in the 70s with those really short ones that had a strip down the side, rollerskating at the local roller rink to some disco. Can someone post a pic of what they are talking about?
Don't worry. I'm confused too. :confused: Is this maybe a southern thing, cuz guys up here tend to wear loooooong shorts that are worn so low they are practically falling off.

kddani 04-23-2006 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PM_Mama00
Why would guys want to wear short shorts? I'm picturing guys in the 70s with those really short ones that had a strip down the side, rollerskating at the local roller rink to some disco. Can someone post a pic of what they are talking about?
Lol, I just watched the movie 54 last night.... makes me think of that.

Yeah, i have NO Idea what this is reference too.

Boy legs in shorts are not sexy.

DSTRen13 04-23-2006 11:03 PM

Re: Re: Shorts? Another UGa problem
 
Quote:

Originally posted by sdbeta1
Please tell me that this article was a joke. I just have too many things to say about it.
This is one thing I am really grateful about about Tech. Only a couple of the fraternities here breed that sort, so I am spared the thigh-age that is abundant at the SEC schools. (Yay for our "inferior" Greek system! Not only do our fraternity guys not all own croakies, but the majority of them cover themselves appropriately!)

Okay, I have been avoiding my work by goofing off on here waaaay too much today ...

macallan25 04-23-2006 11:35 PM

"Get a beat down." Thats pretty classy. Most of us that dress this way care very little about looking "cool" and whether the look is old fashioned or out dated. We care about looking respectable and presenting ourselves well in front of others. To me, gelled hair, too tight popped collared shirts ripped up Hollister jeans, and man bracelets makes you look like trash.

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Originally posted by SoCalGirl
Can someone post a picture of the ultimate "fratty" wearing this uniform of short shorts, pastel t-shirts, and croakies?

I've never seen a college student wearing croakies, ever. I think if any guy at my alma mater wore that outfit he'd quickly get a beat down.


ilikehazing 04-23-2006 11:40 PM

So here's my take on it, since the last one got deleted (I would assume because of profanity but of course the mods are always so wacky!)

First someone wanted to see an "ultimate fratty guy" or so on.
http://image36.webshots.com/36/1/62/...8kWerbw_ph.jpg
I think this is a good image, I'm not a fan of their shorts or some of their looks but it's good enough for searching for "fratty" on google.


And then here's a link to an LSU article on being fratty:
http://www.lsureveille.com/vnews/dis.../415261f18a4ca

polosandpearls 04-23-2006 11:45 PM

Short:
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...4/manthigh.jpg

Just right. Anything longer is bad in my opinion.
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2.../manthigh2.jpg

ilikehazing 04-23-2006 11:55 PM

polos is completely correct.

mine are always the latter

shinerbock 04-24-2006 12:10 AM

I can't say I wear the really short shorts, but otherwise I dress mostly like that. I prefer the regular 8 inch or whatever khaki shorts. However, those short shorts are common because of what they are used for, which is usually hiking or fishing. Granted, many who wear them probably do neither, but they do serve a purpose. Likewise, croakies keep you from losing your sunglasses when sailing or fishing, or any other activity. I see no problem, and I use mine both on the boat and off. I don't really wear lettered shirts because I don't wear tshirts often, but the reason behind wearing polos or button ups is simply to look nicer. I mean, sorry we all dress the same, but to me its how I was raised, and is quite comfortable. I also thing its more versitile, in that I don't risk meeting somebody I want to make a good impression on while wearing torn up cargo shorts and a abercrombie t shirt with some stupid phrase like "I like girls that like girls."

ilikehazing 04-24-2006 12:34 AM

My croakies have saved my glasses more times than I can count.

Also for fratty:
See: Scott Grifo

He skips rush to go dove hunting!

SoCalGirl 04-24-2006 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ilikehazing
So here's my take on it, since the last one got deleted (I would assume because of profanity but of course the mods are always so wacky!)

First someone wanted to see an "ultimate fratty guy" or so on.
http://image36.webshots.com/36/1/62/...8kWerbw_ph.jpg
I think this is a good image, I'm not a fan of their shorts or some of their looks but it's good enough for searching for "fratty" on google.


And then here's a link to an LSU article on being fratty:
http://www.lsureveille.com/vnews/dis.../415261f18a4ca

I saw your post before it got deleted. Was there even swearing? :shrug: I couldn't figure out why it was deleted.

Thanks for the picture. I searched all over the UGA fraternity websites and didn't find anything like that. Is is really a day to day look? I understand the logic of wanting to look nice but I think it is really about what's considered nice/apropriate for a particular area. So it's good for the South and not so good for Cali. I don't see anything wrong with that. If you took that look anywhere else in the country nobody would say it was sloppy but it would leave plenty of people with a good chuckle. :)

KillarneyRose 04-24-2006 01:00 AM

http://image36.webshots.com/36/1/62/...8kWerbw_ph.jpg


Slightly off topic, but is this what today's college men look like? Manboobs and a beergut??? :eek:

ilikehazing 04-24-2006 01:48 AM

Beergut is a total frat move (TFM), it means you don't care about what other people think and don't want to waste time working out with all the gelheaded GDI's when you could be drinking.

tld221 04-24-2006 02:59 AM

1. wouldve never known what a croakie was until i saw a picture
2. i cant believe that article is serious.
3. the article ilikehazing put up is even more ridiculous - "fratty" style? ugh please... if you have to worry about mixing shorts with pearls, then you need to get a hobby.

James 04-24-2006 03:45 AM

I think long shorts became stylish because most men have chicken legs . . even a lot of otherwise built guys have small legs . . we used to laugh at them in the gym.

The steroid guys were the worst, swollen sausage like upper bodies and tiny dimunitve drumbsticks connected to tennis shoes.

I mean who wants to see a long pair of pale chicken legs sticking out of the bottom of some short shorts?

Sleeves reflect that also . . sleeves will often cover the entire upper arms of men . . why? Because today most men have small arms and it hardly looks flattering if their working out girlfriends have better arm shape.

That being said, I think shorter shorts look really good on men with good muscular legs.

But much like women and spandex, men have a certain responsibility to innocent bystanders if they are going to wear such shorts.

They should be buff, preferably tan and mostly hairless.

VandalSquirrel 04-24-2006 03:55 AM

When I read the article I got an image of this guy in my head.

http://www.petitionspot.com/uploads/...0000581237.jpg

Perhaps he is more recognizable in his Hawaiian shirt and with his friends.

http://www.serieslive.com/img/series/casting/magnum.jpg

James 04-24-2006 04:00 AM

Hey don't pick on Magnum, he was cool.

KillarneyRose 04-24-2006 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ilikehazing
Beergut is a total frat move (TFM), it means you don't care about what other people think and don't want to waste time working out with all the gelheaded GDI's when you could be drinking.

And the manboobs?

shinerbock 04-24-2006 10:06 AM

I guess style just depends on what you're going for. For example, when I was in DC this summer, a few of the california interns were allowed to wear like jeans and flip flops. I doubt their constituents cared, but nobody else could really do that. So it probably goes both ways, as we laughed at those kids all summer, and we might not fit in wherever they were from.

ilikehazing 04-24-2006 10:14 AM

Manboobs go with the beer gut, they are the ultimate combination


Also, Magnum P.I. is definitely one of the frat idols.

And the fratty article by the LSU Reville or whatever was just explaining how big/important the fratty style is.

TSteven 04-24-2006 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by James
Hey don't pick on Magnum, he was cool.
http://www.shsu.edu/~eng_wpf/graphics/selleck.jpg

I made some very lasting friendships out of my association in college. There is always a bond with the fellows you were there with. The friendships I made in college with Sigs. . .are a very valuable thing for me in my line of work because nowadays half the people who want to meet me have some kind of business angle, so I value my old friends quite a bit. The fraternity has meant an awful lot to me. . . .I remember the week we went through Initiation. The Ritual was very, very meaningful to me. It was a very difficult period, needless to say, but I must say in retrospect, [that] it's held its value and its meaning and the historical perspective that it gives you. I think the Ritual and the fraternity mystics, and just the sense of history that goes back with Sigma Chi are things that help make those bonds so strong. ---Tom Selleck (Southern California 1967), former star of Magnum, P.I.

Rudey 04-24-2006 11:00 AM

Do men in the south wear high heels and lingerie?

-Rudey
--To flaunt their man boobs and legs along with their short shorts

adpiucf 04-24-2006 11:12 AM

It's not easy wearing short shorts...
 
http://www.whysanity.net/muppets/mimages/martin.gif

Rudey 04-24-2006 12:53 PM

In Can't Hardly Wait, Seth Green wears ski goggles on his head. I think the people that wore ski goggles also wore big mountain climbing back packs to school too. I mean all that gear served a purpose and you are really cool if you've got a camel pack on during math class.

I guess in the South you don't want to look like you're skiiing, so instead you dress like you fish or are getting ready for gay sex by the 9th hole with your caddy.

Is this true? :) Y'all are just so darned adorable.

ETA: As Phyllis pointed out, I made a mistake about the movie. Good catch!

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0...CLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

-Rudey

PM_Mama00 04-24-2006 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rudey
In Ten Things I Hate About You, Seth Green wears ski goggles on his head. I think the people that wore ski goggles also wore big mountain climbing back packs to school too. I mean all that gear served a purpose and you are really cool if you've got a camel pack on during math class.

I guess in the South you don't want to look like you're skiiing, so instead you dress like you fish or are getting ready for gay sex by the 9th hole with your caddy.

Is this true? :) Y'all are just so darned adorable.

-Rudey

Rudey get it right... it's Can't Hardly Wait. Seth Green wasn't in 10 Things I hate About You... it was Brokeback Ledger.

KillarneyRose 04-24-2006 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rudey
In Ten Things I Hate About You, Seth Green wears ski goggles on his head. I think the people that wore ski goggles also wore big mountain climbing back packs to school too. I mean all that gear served a purpose and you are really cool if you've got a camel pack on during math class.

I guess in the South you don't want to look like you're skiiing, so instead you dress like you fish or are getting ready for gay sex by the 9th hole with your caddy.

Is this true? :) Y'all are just so darned adorable.

-Rudey


I think perhaps the point of dressing in that manner is to imply that, hey, if I wanted to, I could be (insert cool sport name here), but I just don't want to be.

Like the guy across the street from us in my old neighborhood who bought one of those unfortunate-looking Hummers and would slow down to about 1 mile per hour when navigating the speed bumps. "Sure," he is saying, "I could drive up the side of a cliff or over the top of a herd of Miatas, but I just don't want to. But I could if I wanted to. Yep, I could."

shinerbock 04-24-2006 02:35 PM

Ya'll are ridiculous. Its not like we wear gaiters, we wear like columbia and patagonia fishing shorts. I personally wear just Polo khakis, but whats wrong with shorts which are good for other things? I guess having quality stuff that holds up over time is not "cool". Its the same reason people wear North Face or Patagonia fleece, its good quality stuff that serves a purpose. Yeah, my Patagonia R4 is great for alpine climbing, but it also keeps me really warm in winter. But you're probably right, I sometimes look like I just got off the golf course, but then you probably usually look like you just got done mowing the grass at my local country club.

utealum 04-24-2006 02:37 PM

Y'all do a lot of alpine climbing in Atlanta?

KillarneyRose 04-24-2006 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by shinerbock
Ya'll are ridiculous. Its not like we wear gaiters, we wear like columbia and patagonia fishing shorts. I personally wear just Polo khakis, but whats wrong with shorts which are good for other things?

Nothing wrong with it at all. I think it's important to let people know that you demand multitasking abilities from your clothing and assessories.

I personally like to walk around wearing my rubber yard boots and a big ol' straw hat even when I'm not gardening. Maybe they look out of place and people may wonder why I'm wearing Wellies at the Food Lion but they're not just for gardening anymore. ;) :D

Quote:

Originally posted by utealum
Y'all do a lot of alpine climbing in Atlanta?
I don't know about alpine climbing, but a friend in Atlanta lives in an area of the city called Deerhead or Buckhead or something like that. So there must be a fair amount of hunting which must mean that people probably get all gussied up for church or work in their cammies and safety vests. Because, you know, it's good to have clothing that works in multiple situations.


ETA: Shinerbock, honey, you are not to take this post personally. You're just the most entertaining little thing, bless your heart :)

alum 04-24-2006 03:22 PM

Hummers in suburbia
 
A waste of gas or just multitasking in suburbia?



What does HMMWV (Humvee) stand for?
HMMWV stands for High Mobility Multipurpose Wheeled Vehicle (HMMWV, pronounced Humvee®). The name HUMMER has been closely associated with Humvee since the HMMWV program began. HUMMER is not an acronym for any special words, but was coined by people first involved with the program. The name HUMMER later became the name of the commercial vehicle AM General began producing in 1992. The HUMMER name is now owned by General Motors and is now one of their brands, which currently emcompasses the HUMMER H1, HUMMER H2 and HUMMER H3.

Rudey 04-24-2006 03:28 PM

Re: Hummers in suburbia
 
Quote:

Originally posted by alum
A waste of gas or just multitasking in suburbia?



What does HMMWV (Humvee) stand for?
HMMWV stands for High Mobility Multipurpose Wheeled Vehicle (HMMWV, pronounced Humvee®). The name HUMMER has been closely associated with Humvee since the HMMWV program began. HUMMER is not an acronym for any special words, but was coined by people first involved with the program. The name HUMMER later became the name of the commercial vehicle AM General began producing in 1992. The HUMMER name is now owned by General Motors and is now one of their brands, which currently emcompasses the HUMMER H1, HUMMER H2 and HUMMER H3.

There is a difference between military humvees (AM) and hummers (GM).

And if you're do alpine climbs, consider buying something a little better than patagonia.

-Rudey

macallan25 04-24-2006 05:07 PM

Actually Patagonia and North Face were first created and designed for alpine climbing..

SOPi_Jawbreaker 04-24-2006 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by James
That being said, I think shorter shorts look really good on men with good muscular legs....They should be buff, preferably tan and mostly hairless.
Quote:

Originally posted by Rudey
I guess in the South you don't want to look like you're skiiing, so instead you dress like you fish or are getting ready for gay sex by the 9th hole with your caddy.
Quote:

Originally posted by KillarneyRose
I personally like to walk around wearing my rubber yard boots and a big ol' straw hat even when I'm not gardening. Maybe they look out of place and people may wonder why I'm wearing Wellies at the Food Lion but they're not just for gardening anymore.
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