14 year old child died a day after being hit, kicked, kneed and restrained by guards
 

Did you all hear about this case? Can you believe no arrests have been made? What are your thoughts?

More information: http://www.tallahassee.com/apps/pbcs...EWS06/60421002

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/ar...n.com+%2F+News

Right, I believe major portions of the protesters are students from FAMU. The mother did get a meeting to speak with Governor Bush and was surprised that he wanted to speak with her. Mr. Bush stated that he wanted this issue ended quickly but did not guarantee justice however; he did seem apologetic. It was discussed this morning on the Russ Parr Morning Show.

Re: 14 year old child died a day after being hit, kicked, kneed and restrained by guards
 

I believe this is the same case where they tried to say the boy died because he had the sickle cell trait that led to his internal bleeding. I think the coroner reversed that ruling and changed this to murder or intentional death.

The shame is that even with a videotape and the reversal from the coroner....no arrests have been made. The parents and attorney were on the Today show several weeks ago when the coroner reversed its ruling.

Its seems that the fact that he was a "bad kid" somehow justifies beating him death. The force was excessive. The video shows about 6-7 grown men and a female nurse surrounding this kid who couldn't have been more than 150 pounds soaking wet. :(

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Right so they did reverse the coroner report? I think that is what the rally is about at the Capitol because without that there was no murder or intentional homicide. That is why they wanted to get the report changed so that they could produce some indictments.:(

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Oh, I thought they did that already, but I'm probably wrong. I thought someone said the rally was to encourage the arrest. I guess that all goes hand in hand. You gotta have a murder ruling to arrest anyone.

Its sad and shameful.

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Yeah I know. I just can't believe it happend and there are no arrests!

Martin Lee Anderson
 

How timely. I just, 5 minutes ago, came from the March. I've been doing some pro-bono research on this case with the law firm representing the parents of Martin Lee Anderson. Of course the usual suspects, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton were in attendance. The protest was mainly held because it has over 100 days and none of the people involved have been arrested or even suspended w/o pay. It's ridiculous. Also, we are demanding that the autopsy results be revealed. More later.

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What was Jesse and Al doing?

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After taking pics with students, they led the march. Then when we made it to the state capitol they gave speeches. As we were leaving, they announced that the Governor called them during the rall and that they were meeting with him at that time. I will post if there is any new developments. The speeches were good, but the best was current FAMU vice-president/president elect Phillip Agnew (I think is his name). He's really dynamic, too bad I had to get a little crunk with him before the march, LOL. It was a pretty uplifting march though. Lots of participation from FAMU and FSU students.

ETA: Look for me on the news and in the newspapers :D FSU Black Law Students Association was on the front line. Many cameras. A reporter from the Tampa Tribune is supposed to call to interview me this afternoon.

Re: Martin Lee Anderson
 

Great thanks for the info. Girl do you thang with the legal work.

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Great work. Soror do you thang. AKAs representing. Keep us posted on developments. Unfortunately this case is not getting as much press and the Duke Allegations so the public isn't really informed.

Re: Martin Lee Anderson
 

Thanks for the update! I wanted to go. This whole situation is so shady its ridiculous.

I just wanted to add that the tapes of the beating that you see on the internet are EXTREMELY edited. The content isn't but, the footage online is about 3 minutes whereas the real tape was 40 minutes long.
Martin Lee Anderson's parents and sister seem to be holding up well considering. I think that they are comforted knowing that the local community is behind them. Please keep them in your prayers.

I will. What site has the taping of the beating? I would like to inform others of this issue because I don't think everyone is well informed on this issue. :confused:

Oh, yeah...another thing that everyon is angry about is that the person who performed the original autopsy is supposedly unlicensed. So they had to exume the child's body to do another autopsy. Those are the results that are being kept sealed. You can see the video of the boot camp, and video of the family speaking here

Remember that the original tape is over 40 minutes long.

If you google search "florida boot camp beating" you'll get hits where the video is available.

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Soror, please keep us posted.

They must have taken it off the air because it is not allowing me to pull it up.

Here is an article about the march I just completed.

March Article

Great thanks for that info. That is good work you all are doing down there.

Sorry for the back-to-back posts. The video of the beating can be viewed here


Also to see footage of today's protest as shown on the local noon news:

1. Go to http://www.wctv6.com/

2. Scroll down to Featured Videos

3. Click on "Bootcamp Death Protest"

There is also footage of Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson on that site as well.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by SKEEphistAKAte
[B]Sorry for the back-to-back posts. The video of the beating can be viewed here

Oh MY GOD. I can't move. My heart goes out to the parents of this young man who lost his life senselessly. :mad: :( :confused: This makes no sense and it took the nurse examining him for them to realize he was hurt. I hope they are prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. They need to be put in a camp like that. No one deserves to die that way.

A few of my pics from the protest:

http://pic12.picturetrail.com/VOL414.../141057619.jpg

AKA wasn't the only D9 sorority present, the young lady below center is a member of Delta Sigma Theta :) I would venture to say that there was representation of every D9 org. ( I was rocking my "SKEE-WEE" tote bag :D)
http://pic12.picturetrail.com/VOL414.../141057616.jpg

http://pic12.picturetrail.com/VOL414.../141057611.jpg

http://pic12.picturetrail.com/VOL414.../141057609.jpg

ETA: Protesters were wearing a bandage on the face to represent the abuse that Martin Lee Anderson suffered at the hands of the officials who murdered him.

D9 represent and Skee-Weeeeeeee to all of my sorors and frats who were out for the cause. Maybe this will encourage more chapters to be about positive activism instead of hazing.

Much love to all of those who participated in some way with the March. I am just still so sadden by that video. My God people no longer value life.

Geraldo interview of the Forensics Report
 

The Forensics report indicated that he did not died due to Sickle Cell Trait. Why haven't arrests been made?

Check out this video: http://www.geraldoatlarge.com/video-archive.php? offset=3&go=10&query=1&orderby=published&cending=D ESC&where_param=month&month=3&year=2006

Copy and paste the complete URL in your browser. Click on Autopsy Debate at the bottom of the page. :mad:

Bay County has closed its boot camp
 

Bay County has closed its boot camp, and the House Justice Appropriations Committee wants to replace camps statewide with residential programs. The U.S. Justice Department is also investigating possible civil rights violations in the case.

Was this a state run program? Or a state sponsored prgram that was run by an independant company?


I remember a few years ago that there was a big blow up about boot camps being terrible places in Arizona. It seems that alot of them are independantly run.

http://www.orange-papers.org/orange-gulags.html

This has a summary of some of the deaths in some boot camp situations . . . its a little biased but if you scroll to the news aricles it lists some of the issues.

I believe it was a state run program.

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Dayum. Jesse gets around. He was just in LA. :D :p






(*coughstirringupyshtcoughsniffcough*) LOL

ETA: What? Jesse and 'nem were too good to wear a band-aid? :D LOL

Thanks for your report and pics, Soror Skee!

All those smiles make it look like you're at a party :)

-Rudey

It's always a great feeling to be in the presence of so many beautiful, intelligent, socially conscious black students. Black college students who took time out of their weekend and their exam studies to fight for a good cause. It was moving and reassuring to see that the future of the African American community is in the hands of people who will not take injustice lying down. Damn right we had lots to smile about. But you wouldn't know anything about that.

ETA: Be assured that your people's attempts at oppression will never break the Black spirit.

*singing*...and with a smile ;)

Soror Skee-

Don't argue with him, he's just trying to hit on you...

Rudesque translation: "All the ladies are attractive in the picture"...

Beautiful
 

Crowd Pic:

http://pic12.picturetrail.com/VOL414.../141173283.jpg

(my classmates are sending me their pics individually so I will continue to post as I receive them)

Tallahassee Democrat Coverage of the Protest:

http://www.tallahasseedemocrat.com/a...arams=Itemnr=1

I'm in picture 14 :D (me and everyone else in Tallahassee)

From the clip, in which I see jumps where things may have been edited out, all I see is their efforts to escort him somewhere. Since I know that this young man subsequently died, what looks like resistance is probably inability to stand/walk and fighting for his life.

When I looked at the clip, I didn't have a problem with it because I used to work at a detention center and am used to seeing children restrained. Therefore, I didn't initially see the issue. However, I (now) know that what was released to the public is only what happened AFTER the beating. So, considering that he probably was in pain, suffering, angry, dying...., their actions were excessive.

The problem is that people don't get the prober training to deal with problem children. You MUST be prepared to work with them. They WILL push you to the limit. Trust me, I've been there. These "officers" or whatever they were, couldn't have been properly trained.

Will the FULL clip eve be released?

IN REFERENCE TO THE TRAGEDY THAT OCCURED IN FLORIDA:

There is a very fine line between restraint and brutality in certain situations. Through my experiences with law enforcement, sometimes the violence continuum is elevated to the point where brutal tactics are used to restrain particularly resistant/violent individuals.

In this case the line was obviously crossed. I felt like I was watching the Rodney King beating all over again. It was utterly disgusting and ridiculous for them to continue beating on a 14 year old child after he was obviously incoherent and seemingly unconscious.

I hope that the Black Law Student Association continues to tackle this issue. My respect for BLSA grows more and more by the day.

Yeah, I edited some posts
 

Look, y'all, don't start none, won't be none. If y'all wanna start race riots and all that other crap, do it somewhere else. Here is NOT the place. This Ave is a PEACEFUL avenue. I don't care if you think I'm censoring the conversation or what. Take it up with John. Living in Cincinnati has lowered my tolerance for this type of BS. Keep that crap over in the poorly moderated forums if you must, but DO NOT bring it into THIS forum.

Please continue on with your regularly scheduled thread.

Soror SKEE, thanks for all the info you provided. I LOVE the crowd pic. Please continue to keep us informed.

In undergrad I worked at a mental hospital and I am also used to seeing people be restrained. However, people are only supposed to be restrained when they are resisting- when they are at risk to themselves or others. It is obvious in this video that this young man was going in and out of consciousness, he couldn't even stand up-there was no resistance and no threat of flight or risk to himself or others, therefore there was no need for the excessive attempts at restraint.

At the protest, Attorney Ben Crump noted that the officers had "shoved several ammonia tablets up his nose" in attempts to revive him. If you look at the video you can see him being kneed, you can see his arms being twisted, officers falling on top of him. It is ridiculous and totally excessive.

I am not sure whether the entire tape will ever be released. It seems that many of the news stations are removing this limited footage from their websites. More may come out during/after the trial.

ETA: Initially the news reports stated that Martin Lee Anderson entered the boot camp one day and died the next. Attorney Crump noted that this young man entered the boot camp and the parents were called about 2 HOURS later to say that he was being taken to the local hospital.

I did notice in the video that they were beating on his arm, seemingly in an attempt to get him to bend it.

This is a sad case.... I feel sorry for the young man and his family. I pray that BLSA keeps up the good fight and sees this case through to the end. I will be joining my school's BLSA chapter next year.

That group picture is great!

All these updates are truly needed and very informative. The situation is truly sad. It seems as if the world gets worse by the day. I will definitely send out prayers to the family as well as to people trying to rectify this issue. Once again, this makes you think on many levels.

Parents/Guardians with problem children that have to resort to sending their children to a camp may be very skeptical about that now. The process truly needs to change. I'm glad the camp is being closed. Credentials should be checked just like in any other business. I feel that if children are sent to camp by a judge, the parents should have a right to do a background check on the facility before admitting the child. My sister had to go to one, and I was worried the whole time she was there.

Also, the child had medical problems. There are exceptions to every rule. Why have the child doing strenuous exercises that he may not be able to handle? I'm glad the autopsy reading was reversed by a licensed individual. I figured the brutal beating caused the internal bleeding that caused the death. He was doing okay before then. Truly sick and sad.

I hope justice does prevail. I'm thankful for everyone that is participating in the protest. Hope is still alive. Civil rights leaders works were not done in vain. It's not right that no one was arrested even with the new autopsy reading. Even without that, the footage should have been enough. I leave it in God's hands.

Amen....You said it all. During the tape I also viewed the child's arm being beat while his body was limp. If he is limp is there a continued need for restraint? And to me all off the officers/workers did not appear concerned when the ambulance appeared there were only a few that ran and seemed concerned after he had fallen several times to the ground. This whole ordeal is truly sad for the country and for the family.