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Honeykiss1974 04-19-2006 02:22 PM

Mumps across the midwest
 
Why the heck is this disease making a resurgance? :mad: People, both kids and adults, are getting this crap even though they have had the vaccine.

Cripes, I will be PO'd if I get sick. :mad:

WTH?

The Mumps Outbreak across the Midwest

http://www.kansas.com/mld/kansas/14374940.htm

James 04-19-2006 02:32 PM

I read this wrong Honeykiss, I thought you wrote Muppets across the Midwest . . which would have been funny.

Honeykiss1974 04-19-2006 02:47 PM

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Originally posted by James
I read this wrong Honeykiss, I thought you wrote Muppets across the Midwest . . which would have been funny.
ROTFL!!! I'd be PO'd if they came too! Unless it was Beaker. I like skinny, brainy guys that don't say much.

http://www.cozmo.dk/comics/beaker.gif

Kevin 04-19-2006 03:02 PM

If the muppet show were still on TV, I'd watch it religiously.

Optimist Prime 04-19-2006 03:07 PM

The Muppets need a comeback. I like the bell hop rats and the cranky old guys in the balcony

Honeykiss1974 04-19-2006 03:14 PM

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Originally posted by Optimist Prime
The Muppets need a comeback. I like the bell hop rats and the cranky old guys in the balcony
Statler and Waldorf were HILARIOUS!

Honeykiss1974 04-19-2006 03:30 PM

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Originally posted by BetaRose
A lot of parents are choosing to not have their kids vaccinated. I wonder if that is part of the reason that mumps is making a comeback?
I'm not sure. I do know that the CDC tracked it down to two people that infected others on their flight. But as I stated earlier, both kids and adults that have been vaccinated are getting it. :confused: It is a virus though and they do mutate so who knows.

Those 2 people have resulted in over 800 cases so far! This is very interesting because it does show how quickly things can spread (thinking in terms of a biological terrorism).

ISUKappa 04-19-2006 07:07 PM

The vaccination is only good for so long; you need a booster every 10-15 years or so to make sure you stay immune.

Most children get the MMR vax before preschool which means they should get a booster before they go to college.

It's also affecting older adults (late 40s on up) who never had the vaccine.

HBADPi 04-19-2006 07:50 PM

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Originally posted by ktsnake
If the muppet show were still on TV, I'd watch it religiously.
Ditto

AKA_Monet 04-19-2006 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ISUKappa
The vaccination is only good for so long; you need a booster every 10-15 years or so to make sure you stay immune.

Most children get the MMR vax before preschool which means they should get a booster before they go to college.

It's also affecting older adults (late 40s on up) who never had the vaccine.

I had to get another MMR recently when I moved to where I am now...

So it sounds like folks vaccines stopped working and mumps has been hanging out forever in that area, but folks just haven't been re-vaccinated...

Also, it is interesting that measles hasn't made a comeback recently either...

And since both mumps, measles, rubella, pertussis and diptheria are DNA viruses (I think?) and the vaccination is against a protein marker that doesn't change, then it would very strange that the virus "mutated" in the sense that vaccine protect because that's not how I was taught how it works...

Now, tuberculosis is different because it's caused by a bacteria that can become antibiotic resistant...

And HIV is different because the proteins on HIV actually do mutate which a vaccine wouldn't work effectively and because HIV is a diploid RNA virus.

And chickpox is an alpha simplex herpesvirus--another RNA virus but it's single stranded--so it's structure doesn't change--that's why a vaccine can be made against that.

Either way, it stresses the importance of getting vaccinated. Because having the actual disease is disabling. And there are always secondary infections that can occur. Think of it this way, if one virus gets in, it opens the door for other infections to get in that you cannot fight off naturally...

bluefish81 04-19-2006 08:18 PM

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Originally posted by ISUKappa
The vaccination is only good for so long; you need a booster every 10-15 years or so to make sure you stay immune.

Most children get the MMR vax before preschool which means they should get a booster before they go to college.

It's also affecting older adults (late 40s on up) who never had the vaccine.

I didn't remember getting a booster before I went to college. When cases started popping up in Dubuque County, IA, my mom reminded both my sister and I that we got boosters before we headed off to school. It's crazy how many cases are out there right now and how much it's spreading.

kddani 04-20-2006 06:40 AM

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Originally posted by James
I read this wrong Honeykiss, I thought you wrote Muppets across the Midwest . . which would have been funny.
While I did read it as "mumps across the midwest" it made me think of "hands across america"

AGDee 04-20-2006 07:01 AM

I'm thinking that some people just don't become immune, in spite of the vaccine. I had my MMRs when I was supposed to, had a booster in high school because they determined that some batch in the late 60's wasn't good. When I started my last job, they titred us to see if we had immunity to all 3 parts of the MMR. I didn't titre as immune to the Rubeola, so they made me get it again. I told my doc and she ran another test and I still wasn't testing as immune from it. <shrug> Apparently that part didn't work on me, and probably never will.

ISUKappa 04-20-2006 10:50 AM

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Originally posted by AGDee
I'm thinking that some people just don't become immune, in spite of the vaccine. I had my MMRs when I was supposed to, had a booster in high school because they determined that some batch in the late 60's wasn't good. When I started my last job, they titred us to see if we had immunity to all 3 parts of the MMR. I didn't titre as immune to the Rubeola, so they made me get it again. I told my doc and she ran another test and I still wasn't testing as immune from it. <shrug> Apparently that part didn't work on me, and probably never will.
This is probably true. It could also mean that even though you're not totally immune, if you get sick, your reaction would be much less than someone who was never vaccinated. It would be more like a cold than a full-out case of Mumps or Rubella or whathaveyou.

Lady of Pearl 04-23-2006 07:45 PM

Wow I didn't know there is a resurgence of cases of mumps either - I have had a student miss a week of school because she has it!:eek:

carnation 04-23-2006 08:03 PM

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Originally posted by ISUKappa It's also affecting older adults (late 40s on up) who never had the vaccine.
LOL, most of us had the mumps back in the day because there wasn't any vaccine! Ditto for measles and chicken pox!

But I'm PO'ed about the chicken pox vaccine. My younger 7 kids had it and every one of them got the chicken pox anyway. The doctor said, "Oh well, they had a lighter case than they would have if they hadn't had the vaccine." How does HE know? I thought it was fully as bad as the cases of the older 6.

jubilance1922 04-23-2006 08:14 PM

Its interesting how some colleges don't require a booster for MMR. I didn't need one when I went to college in Minnesota, but I did when I moved to GA for grad school.

Glad I got it.

SOPi_Jawbreaker 04-23-2006 10:18 PM

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Originally posted by jubilance1922
Its interesting how some colleges don't require a booster for MMR. I didn't need one when I went to college in Minnesota, but I did when I moved to GA for grad school.

Glad I got it.

We were just talking about this in my virology class on Friday. The prof was saying that the reason that certain states in the midwest are having problems with mumps is because those states don't require proof of immunizations for college. The prof was saying that he thinks it's unlikely that we would have an outbreak at Penn State because pennsylvania requires proof of immunizations before freshmen can move into the dorms. Though, our prof still warned us that we shouldn't share cups at parties.

LightBulb 04-25-2006 02:24 AM

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Originally posted by Honeykiss1974
Statler and Waldorf were HILARIOUS!
They review new movies here: http://movies.go.com/muppets/index

jubilance1922 04-25-2006 01:21 PM

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Originally posted by SOPi_Jawbreaker
We were just talking about this in my virology class on Friday. The prof was saying that the reason that certain states in the midwest are having problems with mumps is because those states don't require proof of immunizations for college. The prof was saying that he thinks it's unlikely that we would have an outbreak at Penn State because pennsylvania requires proof of immunizations before freshmen can move into the dorms. Though, our prof still warned us that we shouldn't share cups at parties.
The Univ. of Minnesota just required us to fill out a form and sign it, but they didn't ask to see my immunization record from my doctor, so I guess I could have cheated if I wanted to.

GA was not playing that, I had get my mom to leave work, go home, fax it over, and I STILL needed a 2nd MMR....

Honeykiss1974 04-25-2006 02:37 PM

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Originally posted by LightBulb
They review new movies here: http://movies.go.com/muppets/index
Now see, why did you have to show me this? :D LOL

Tom Earp 04-25-2006 04:28 PM

Dont YOu just Love how vacinations are no longer useful.

Eraticated Dieases are making come backs?

Mumps, Measles, Polio for a few.

Maybe it is a way for Populations to be deleted?

KDAngel 05-01-2006 01:06 AM

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Originally posted by Optimist Prime
The Muppets need a comeback. I like the bell hop rats and the cranky old guys in the balcony
Blah. I hated the muppets. Thank goodness they're gone! Well basically gone.

Optimist Prime 05-01-2006 03:00 PM

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Originally posted by KDAngel
Blah. I hated the muppets. Thank goodness they're gone! Well basically gone.
Even Animal?

sageofages 05-01-2006 05:15 PM

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Originally posted by carnation
LOL, most of us had the mumps back in the day because there wasn't any vaccine! Ditto for measles and chicken pox!

But I'm PO'ed about the chicken pox vaccine. My younger 7 kids had it and every one of them got the chicken pox anyway. The doctor said, "Oh well, they had a lighter case than they would have if they hadn't had the vaccine." How does HE know? I thought it was fully as bad as the cases of the older 6.

I feel your frustration....

Daugher #1 had chicken pox THREE times. Dr confirmed each time. No shot...why bother?

Daughter #2 had chicken pox twice. No shot.

Sons all had it once. No shot.

Grandson #1 get BAD chicken pox case. BAD BAD case. He had the shot. Dr said "oh my god, if he hadn't had the shot, he would have had to be hospitalized" (poor poor baby...his mommy is the one who had them 3 times)

Son #3 got the measles FROM the shot. Dr. confirmed. State health dept went NUTS because "it can't happen, just a rash secondary to the shot". Appropriate amount of time for exposure, Mr. Sageofages breaks out with the measles. Had been traveling in western part of state (which had some cases lending to potential exposure). Health dept sent note home to families in school saying "sympathetic rash..NOT measles" Dr just shook her head and said "idiots". Apparently fed $$ on the line if anymore cases reported.

Son #1 gets mumps from recent out break. Light case (he had the shot). Dumber dr says "no way". Son says "the newspaper lists XX symptoms" Dr bites his head off "I am a dr, they are just journalist". Next day State Epidemologist goes on TV and lists EXACT symptoms of son #1. Mom suggests a "tried and true" way of testing for mumps "eat a pickle...it will be *painful*". Yup. Satisfied me, it is the mumps.

A supervisor of mine lost a daughter when she was 6 to a vaccine reaction... :( you just never can be sure.

KDAngel 05-02-2006 01:53 AM

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Originally posted by Optimist Prime
Even Animal?
Oh no, I liked animal. And I liked the cartoon (well for a while), I just didn't like the real things. They creeped me out for a long time, and then just annoyed. Ironically, I LOVED Fraggle Rock though, cause it was kinda the same type thing.

Optimist Prime 05-02-2006 08:52 AM

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Originally posted by KDAngel
Oh no, I liked animal. And I liked the cartoon (well for a while), I just didn't like the real things. They creeped me out for a long time, and then just annoyed. Ironically, I LOVED Fraggle Rock though, cause it was kinda the same type thing.
Fraggle rock was the best. Remember those green things that built things out of plastic and then the giant would come and eat them? That was great.

Drolefille 05-02-2006 09:59 AM

Doozers!!!

Dance your cares away *clap clap*
Worries for another day
Let the music play.
Down in Fraggle Rock!:D

Honeykiss1974 05-08-2006 07:37 AM

WTH? Here in Kansas, we now have a meales outbreak. Great.

AKA_Monet 05-08-2006 09:10 PM

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Originally posted by Honeykiss1974
WTH? Here in Kansas, we now have a meales outbreak. Great.
I tole you!!! Those 2 travel in packs... Always... If there's mumps, there's measles. I don't know why, but that's what I was always taught...

Like Human Papilloma Virus (HPV) travels with Herpes Simplex II... Which increases one's risk of getting infected with HIV...

Well, relatively speaking, good thing it's turning into summer, maybe... Y'all could have menningitis on the rise, too... And this is the viral kind, not the bacterial kind... But I think it happens when it's cold...

However during the heat, you have other wonderful opportunistic infections... Like all the little things that mosquitoes carry, nasty little bugs... And bacteria love to grow in the heat. Just make sure there is no standing water around your house...

Where I am we have a Norwalk Virus problem...

Rudey 05-08-2006 09:21 PM

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Originally posted by AKA_Monet
I tole you!!! Those 2 travel in packs... Always... If there's mumps, there's measles. I don't know why, but that's what I was always taught...

Like Human Papilloma Virus (HPV) travels with Herpes Simplex II... Which increases one's risk of getting infected with HIV...

Well, relatively speaking, good thing it's turning into summer, maybe... Y'all could have menningitis on the rise, too... And this is the viral kind, not the bacterial kind... But I think it happens when it's cold...

However during the heat, you have other wonderful opportunistic infections... Like all the little things that mosquitoes carry, nasty little bugs... And bacteria love to grow in the heat. Just make sure there is no standing water around your house...

Where I am we have a Norwalk Virus problem...

You know what I heard? If you get an STD that starts with an H, then chances are you'll get another one that starts with an H. You get the heev and chances are you're gonna get the herp or the hep as well.

-Rudey
--I'm afraid of any disease that starts with an H or happens to have both an A and a B flavor.

AKA_Monet 05-09-2006 03:21 AM

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Originally posted by Rudey
You know what I heard? If you get an STD that starts with an H, then chances are you'll get another one that starts with an H. You get the heev and chances are you're gonna get the herp or the hep as well.

-Rudey
--I'm afraid of any disease that starts with an H or happens to have both an A and a B flavor.

Sweetheart just wrap it up and be careful where you stick it okey...

Just don't stick it anywhere...


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