I hate shopping--and when did Catherine Zeta-Jones become plus-size?
 

I realize that thin women are played out like Cross Colors, Sinbad and light skinned brothers (jokie joke), but can a sister buy some clothes? Last night I was in a local department store and that awesome Royal Blue outfit came in no sizes under 10 and about 15 dresses size 16 and 18. (not hating on my plus-size sistahs, so don't take it that way).

Another issue...I am not a seamstress so maybe I am wrong about this. However, my common sense (yes, I have a little of it) tells me that a size 8 skirt takes less material to make than a size 26 skirt. Why in the world do they cost the same amount of money? If an outfit take twice as much material to make shouldn't it cost twice as much?

Please not hate email. Just asking a very real question.

Hey Soror:

Good question!! I'm a plus size sister, the size 26 you mentioned. It's been my experience that the opposite is true. My clothes always cost more, and I don't have a problem with it. Like you said more material. I havn't been in a store that sells a size 8 and size 26 with the exact same outfit. I'm a Ashley Stewart Lane Bryants gal. I also get lots of stuff made, especially for those Royal Blue and Pure white events.

Calm down GiggyZ. Where did all of these "hostilities" come from? http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif Where were you shopping? I've seen you in person and I believe you should have no problem finding your size. Have you tried mail-order (Chadwicks of Boston for example)? Fret not, you are alright and your perfect fitting clothing is out there.....somewhere. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/wink.gif

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Down here there are stores that sell a wide range of clothing just in different sections of the store. I actually just went to the larger sizes (over 18) to see the cost of items. I was shocked when it was the same. I do realize that in most stores there is a difference in price from the smaller sizes to plus sizes. And I also recognize that attractive clothing for larger women has been a long time coming. What I find amazing is the know the it is okay to be larger, the fashion world has decided that large is a 12 or 14. In my universe that is just an average sistah. Yet I hear of plus size modeling searches looking for woman size 10/12 or higher.

I am calm. The other night was just a bad night to shop. I guess I wasn't supposed to spend that money anyway.

Are you looking for something for a particular occassion?

GiggyZ, You're in FLA, right? Maybe I should move there! http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif For financial reasons, I frequently shop the clearance-clearance racks in major department stores. (You know the 50% off the marked down price) I hardly ever find anything in my size, which I consider mid range: "16/18". Tons of 6/8s and tons of 22/26s. I know Im not going to be losing any weight anytime soon, so maybe I should try to gain some! (NOT!)
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GiggyZ I totally feel you on your statement. I ALWAYS have trouble when I go shopping, because I am a very small woman (I am 5'5", and I wear a size 3-4)
From experience, the stores that ALWAYS tend to have the smaller sizes (at least in S. Florida) are The Limited and Lerner's.


I think that some stores don't charge more for larger sized clothing because they think people may cry foul about it. Just an opinion.


PrettyPetite

Okay. If I could have one wish granted, it would be an unlimited supply of clothing from Lerner. THAT IS MY STORE. I know this sounds crazy, but I can't help it. I love me some Lerner more than I can make you understand. I'm not crazy, I swear. It's just that NY&CO and I share the longest relationship I've had to date. Y'all. Just. Don't. Know. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/biggrin.gif

Ok, GiggyZ, so how does Catherine Zeta Jones fit into all of this? I can't imagine that anyone with 2 funtioning eyes would think she is plus size.

ZetaAce

ZetaAce -
I know this wasn't directed at me, but recently when I signed onto AOL, they had this big feature about how thin women were going out of style and curves and a little meat were back in. Some of the examples were Catherine Zeta Jones, Drew Barrymore, and JENNIFER LOPEZ. What. Ever. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/rolleyes.gif

Girl, thanks for the answer! Drew Barrymore is what an 8? I think I read that Jennifer Lopez is a 6. Wow, they're HUGE http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/rolleyes.gif. Isn't the average size a 12?

ZetaAce

Girl I feel you on that!!! Why are MOST of my clothes from NY&CO?!?! And why was I mad when I went to New York, and I couldn't find Lerner's, and on the DAY I WAS LEAVING, I found out they changed the name to New York & Company? LOL

Those 'outfits of the week' are the shhhhhh...a whole outfit for $35 dollars sometimes...... http://www.plauder-smilies.de/flash.gif ...fits my 'broke college student' budget!!!

They use to have a LERNERS PLUS here in Chicago, but They went bankrupt. I loved that store too. It gave us big gurls a chance to wear what you thin women are wearing, only in "OUR" size.

Okay, yall really need to come to NYC...Every store has siZes for dayZ. From -1 http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/eek.gif (I couldn't believe it was a real size) to whatever.

If they started charging more for *bigger* sizes. What size would be the yard stick? A 0 would cost 1/2 of what a 6 costs? or would it be a 1/3 of it's cost? 1/6? It's too subjective for Price based on Size to be effective. But, that's JMHO.

And, my stores are Arden B (why has no one heard of it!!! lol), Express and Guess. I rarely shop anywhere else. But, put me on...I'm open...lol

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Hope you all don't mind me posting. Not sure if you were joking but I have heard of Arden B. I just bought two shirts from there a few weeks ago. That was my first time shopping there. They can be pricey but I like their style. I consider their clothes sexy buy classy. (I'm the type that likes to show curves over skin). I used to like Express but I've moved on to Limited. I think their clothes are a little more tame than Express. But I guess that's 'cause I'm getting older http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/wink.gif!



[This message has been edited by DST Love (edited May 17, 2001).]

I absolutely despise shopping sometimes-I can never find anything I want in my size that fits well-and then since I am a cheap (for now) person, that limits what I will buy. Every now and then I luck upon something nice in a discount store, but most of the time no go. I could find stuff in places like Ashley Stewart and Lane Bryant, but I just have a problem with paying like $25 and up for ONE piece of clothing.
As far as it goes with price differences based on sizes, if they charged more just because my clothing used more material, I'd have all of my clothing made by a seamstress-cause I just KNOW companies would try to jack me.

**Soror GiggyZ, you really should subscribe to the Chadwick's of Boston catalog-they seem have gorgeous affordable royal blue outfits often!

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The Women of Zeta Phi Beta...Simply Irresistible!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes, that is what I was referring too. The fashion folks and media types are so turned off with skeletons (very, very thin women) that they are now proclaiming Catherine Zeta-Jones plus size. I am for real. The other week a modeling agency was conducting a "plus size" model search in Fort Myers, Fla., and they were looking for women size 10 and over. I am sorry but a woman who wears a 10 is not going to shop at Lane Bryant, Ashley Stewart or the "Woman's World" section of your local department store. I find this offensive to true plus size divas. No woman who wears a size 12 or 14 (which are the norm for all American women) or a 14, 16, 18 (which are the norm for African American woman) should be modeling plus size fashions. To me this is just as bad has having only women who wear a size 0 to strut down the catwalk. If designers and clothing catalog coordinators wanted to be bold, they would put a size 26 woman in a sharp outfit, pose her in a attractive pose, snap the photo and include it in the catalog. Imagine what that would do for the thousands of woman size 22, 24, 26, 28, 30, etc. to see someone with the same types of curves represented. Afterall, we all wear clothes and lawd knows women, especially sistahs, like to look good in their clothes.

Now moving on to another issue under the same theme. I find nothing more offensive to the eyes and to good taste than to see women wearing clothing that they should not. That goes for any size woman. So in this season of wearing less, I know the following statement will get a round of applause from the Finer Women of Zeta---PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE remember dressing sexy does not mean trashy. And sistahs most of us can't wear spandex, especially if you got dimples, bumps and bulges all over the place--leave it alone. ;-)


[This message has been edited by GiggyZ (edited May 18, 2001).]

No, I was just shopping and my Zeta radar went directly to the Royal Blue. Anytime I go shopping I will ALWAYS check out the items in Royal Blue, even if I don't need another Royal Blue blouse, or skirt, or suit.

Something about that color just MOVES me. I bet my SGRho sisterfriends feel the same way.

I hear all of you but I get upset because I am inbetween sizes used to be 16 but got down to a fourteen. Started going back to the gym because I am going to Cancun next week and can almost fit my big butt into a 12 but not quite and then when I try on the 14 it doesn't fir right.

Another thing is that we all have a best friend that we can talk to and if you do then I don't understand why you would let your best friend go outside in an outfit that does not flatter her. Whether she is big or small because I have seen many a women/ladies/girls where spandex. This goes for the big ones as well as the small ones or the in-between ones like me.

Please Ladies, do your friend a favor and do not let her walk down the street looking crazy. http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/eek.gif :0

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"If you know from whence you came there is no limit to where you can go." 'Frederick Douglas'

If you're a size 14-26, you might enjoy http://www.alight.com.

Right??? This is what I don't understand. The models for Lane Bryant CANNOT be more than a size 9 - I mean, they are basically your paper-thin models. But I also know Lane Bryant's smallest size is a 14... so I'm wondering if they think people won't notice their models are at least 4 sizes smaller than the smallest size they carry?? http://www.greekchat.com/forums/ubb/confused.gif