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tulip4185 04-05-2006 02:24 AM

Sorority Reputations?
 
I was wondering what the national sorority reputations are of the following sororities...

Alpha Phi
Delta Delta Delta
Delta Gamma
Kappa Delta
Kappa Kappa Gamma

33girl 04-05-2006 02:33 AM

They are all awesome!! I think you should post in each sorority's forum giving them your name and contact info so they can call you and ask you to join!!

kddani 04-05-2006 06:40 AM

Re: Sorority Reputations?
 
They all suck and are terribly horrible. Especially that Kappa Delta sorority. EWWWW!

WhiteDaisy128 04-05-2006 06:50 AM

Here is what I know:

Alpha Phi - They are ALWAYS wearing these shirts that have a capitol A on them followed by a circle with a line throgh it. I mean, what's up with that?

Delta Delta Delta - These girls are always wearing silver, gold, and blue clothes.

Delta Gamma - Maybe these girls like to go sailing? Or maybe they all have Navy boyfriends, but for some reason, they always have anchors on them (like necklaces, and on their clothes...).

Kappa Delta - I've heard about these girls!! They are always doing community service work with Girl Scouts!!

Kappa Kappa Gamma - KKG's must be REALLY smart, because one of their symbols is an owl.

AlphaFrog 04-05-2006 07:19 AM

Re: Sorority Reputations?
 
Here you go:

Alpha Phi - Has good and bad chapters
Delta Delta Delta - Has good and bad chapters
Delta Gamma - Has good and bad chapters
Kappa Delta - Has good and bad chapters
Kappa Kappa Gamma - Has good and bad chapters

Oh...I get it...ALL sororities - Have good and bad chapters

Damn, thanks for posting tulip...I have now become enlightened. Thank you for helping me with my breakthough. You're the best friend a girl could ever want. I'm just so overcome with emotion. I think I'm going to cry. You win GC.

Sister Havana 04-05-2006 09:09 AM

Well, they all have chapters at IU so they MUST be good. :D

lifesaver 04-05-2006 01:01 PM

Some 17 year old is clearly college shopping right now.

I'd suggest posting questions of this topic in the correct forum, which would be Greek Life. Of course thats already been suggested ad nauseum on here. But then again, this really isnt an acceptable topic to ask anyway. Seriously, what do you really expect people on here to say? The tri-gams are sluts? Get real.

I dont know you, but I dont think greek life will be a good fit for you. See, part of greek life is working with others, thinking on a different level, and following instructions to complete a task (be it the new member period or a service project). Since you seem to be having trouble with posting, common sense and tact, I dont see the whole NPC application/letters of rec/recruitment process working out for you, much less membership.

You wanted honesty, right. Well, there's a big ass glass of it for ya. All 32 ounces... supersized for free.

*ETA: Cause I am a dick, and cause I can.

bruinaphi 04-05-2006 01:02 PM

Re: Re: Sorority Reputations?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by AlphaFrog
Alpha Phi - Has good and bad chapters
Delta Delta Delta - Has good and bad chapters
Delta Gamma - Has good and bad chapters
Kappa Delta - Has good and bad chapters
Kappa Kappa Gamma - Has good and bad chapters

Oh...I get it...ALL sororities - Have good and bad chapters

I don't think any chapter is a "bad" chapter. Some chapters are very successful in recruitment, while others struggle. Some chapters are very successful with academics while others struggle. Some chapters are really good at socializing or athletics while others struggle. Every chapter has things they do well and things they need to work on.

All of these groups have a lot to offer. As ariesrising said, check out their websites.

AlphaFrog 04-05-2006 01:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by bruinaphi
I don't think any chapter is a "bad" chapter. Some chapters are very successful in recruitment, while others struggle. Some chapters are very successful with academics while others struggle. Some chapters are really good at socializing or athletics while others struggle. Every chapter has things they do well and things they need to work on.

All of these groups have a lot to offer. As ariesrising said, check out their websites.

Ok, "bad" wasn't exactly the word I meant. But I was trying to work at the level of intelligence of the OP. My guess was that opposites was something she would be working on at her current level: Hot/Cold, Up/Down, Good/Bad. "Struggling" may be too many syllables for her.

I really need to stop being so mean, but really, is it that hard for a new poster to read a few posts (Especially the "Dumb Newbie" thread that's stapled to the top) before asking ridiculous questions??

honeychile 04-05-2006 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ariesrising
To answer the question a little more seriousl y (cuz you all beat me to the funny ones lol)....

All the national sororities in the NPC have great national reputations. Look at their sites and see for yourself.

They all have a lot of chapters and within those you'll find some that are strong and huge and amazing, some that are struggling, some that fall in the middle. Depends on the school, the Greek climate at the school, a million trillion different things. Some people like smaller chapters, some people like bigger.

Asking people on a message board won't get you any useful answers, because the only way you'll know which one YOU really like and fit with is to meet the members at your own school and see.

See how Panhellenic I am today :D

You've been a good girl - here's a cookie:

http://www.cookiesinheaven.com/image...hip_cookie.jpg

Rudey 04-05-2006 01:31 PM

Re: Re: Re: Sorority Reputations?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by bruinaphi
I don't think any chapter is a "bad" chapter. Some chapters are very successful in recruitment, while others struggle. Some chapters are very successful with academics while others struggle. Some chapters are really good at socializing or athletics while others struggle. Every chapter has things they do well and things they need to work on.

All of these groups have a lot to offer. As ariesrising said, check out their websites.

That's a big crock of ****.

-Rudey

AlphaFrog 04-05-2006 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lifesaver
Some 17 year old is clearly college shopping right now.

I'd suggest posting questions of this topic in the correct forum, which would be Greek Life.

I think this is the part where the OP stopped reading your post, because she went ahead and asked in the GL Forum anyway.


Apparently she missed this part of the post:

Quote:

Originally posted by lifesaver
Of course thats already been suggested ad nauseum on here. But then again, this really isnt an acceptable topic to ask anyway. Seriously, what do you really expect people on here to say? The tri-gams are sluts? Get real.

BobbyTheDon 04-05-2006 02:06 PM

Re: Re: Sorority Reputations?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by kddani
They all suck and are terribly horrible. Especially that Kappa Delta sorority. EWWWW!

Dani, I like Kappa Delta. Especially the KDs at Pitt!

BobbyTheDon 04-05-2006 02:06 PM

Re: Re: Re: Sorority Reputations?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by bruinaphi
I don't think any chapter is a "bad" chapter. Some chapters are very successful in recruitment, while others struggle. Some chapters are very successful with academics while others struggle. Some chapters are really good at socializing or athletics while others struggle. Every chapter has things they do well and things they need to work on.

All of these groups have a lot to offer. As ariesrising said, check out their websites.


No no....believe me. There are bad chapters out there.

Denise_DPhiE 04-05-2006 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lifesaver
I dont know you, but I dont think greek life will be a good fit for you. See, part of greek life is working with others, thinking on a different level, and following instructions to complete a task (be it the new member period or a service project). Since you seem to be having trouble with posting, common sense and tact, I dont see the whole NPC application/letters of rec/recruitment process working out for you, much less membership.

What lifesaver said! (I need to go clean up my keyboard b/c I just spilled my coffee all over it!)

Tom Earp 04-05-2006 03:53 PM

Me thinks twolips has been gone from posting?

As lifesaver said, some Kid just looking and probably wont look anymore or even go through Recruitment.

chio84 04-05-2006 05:21 PM

honestly. you people are just blatantly RUDE. first of all, i didn't know anything about sororities before i went to college, and that doesn't make me stupid. i would have had absolutely no idea whether it was kosher to ask about national reputations or not.. i can't believe one of you actually insulted this girl's intelligence for asking about national reputations. give me a break.

secondly, sororities DO HAVE DIFFERENT NATIONAL REPUTATIONS. i know you all would love to deny it, but it's true! while, obviously, it is not going to be the only thing to consider during rush, or maybe wouldn't be considered at ALL by one of you, it is perfectly logical and normal for someone to at least be aware of the stereotypes before going into recruitment. if you are caught between one sorority and the other and truly cannot choose between the two, and the first has an amazing national reputation with strong alumni clubs, especially in the region where you live, and the second is known for being much smaller with no alum clubs where you live... don't you think you should at least be aware of that in order to make an educated decision?

honestly, if i were reading this i would never want to be a part of any greek organization.

to the original poster: i pm'ed you. also, don't think that everyone in greek organizations is so rude- no one in my chapter would act like this to someone interested in rushing.

AznSAE 04-05-2006 05:24 PM

:(

cant we all just get along? hoe bags.

valkyrie 04-05-2006 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by chio84
honestly. you people are just blatantly RUDE. first of all, i didn't know anything about sororities before i went to college, and that doesn't make me stupid. i would have had absolutely no idea whether it was kosher to ask about national reputations or not.. i can't believe one of you actually insulted this girl's intelligence for asking about national reputations. give me a break.

secondly, sororities DO HAVE DIFFERENT NATIONAL REPUTATIONS. i know you all would love to deny it, but it's true! while, obviously, it is not going to be the only thing to consider during rush, or maybe wouldn't be considered at ALL by one of you, it is perfectly logical and normal for someone to at least be aware of the stereotypes before going into recruitment. if you are caught between one sorority and the other and truly cannot choose between the two, and the first has an amazing national reputation with strong alumni clubs, especially in the region where you live, and the second is known for being much smaller with no alum clubs where you live... don't you think you should at least be aware of that in order to make an educated decision?

honestly, if i were reading this i would never want to be a part of any greek organization.

to the original poster: i pm'ed you. also, don't think that everyone in greek organizations is so rude- no one in my chapter would act like this to someone interested in rushing.

Pretty snippy for such a new poster. I'd really be sad if you were't part of any greek organization.

Peaches-n-Cream 04-05-2006 05:36 PM

I posted this in the greeklife thread, but since it was closed, I am reposting:

tulip, I suggest that you go to recruitment and decide for yourself which sorority is the best fit for you. You can also check out the websites of each of these sororities from the NPC website here.

kddani 04-05-2006 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by chio84
honestly. you people are just blatantly RUDE. first of all, i didn't know anything about sororities before i went to college, and that doesn't make me stupid. i would have had absolutely no idea whether it was kosher to ask about national reputations or not.. i can't believe one of you actually insulted this girl's intelligence for asking about national reputations. give me a break.

secondly, sororities DO HAVE DIFFERENT NATIONAL REPUTATIONS. i know you all would love to deny it, but it's true! while, obviously, it is not going to be the only thing to consider during rush, or maybe wouldn't be considered at ALL by one of you, it is perfectly logical and normal for someone to at least be aware of the stereotypes before going into recruitment. if you are caught between one sorority and the other and truly cannot choose between the two, and the first has an amazing national reputation with strong alumni clubs, especially in the region where you live, and the second is known for being much smaller with no alum clubs where you live... don't you think you should at least be aware of that in order to make an educated decision?

honestly, if i were reading this i would never want to be a part of any greek organization.

to the original poster: i pm'ed you. also, don't think that everyone in greek organizations is so rude- no one in my chapter would act like this to someone interested in rushing.

Then what, pray tell you, are the national reputations of the groups she listed? Really, i'm curious, since you profess to know them.

She didn't ask about alumni "clubs" (or what we sorority women generally call "alumnae associations".). If she did, she could certainly find that info on the homepage of each of those organizations.

She didn't ask about region. She didn't ask about anything specific that would actually lead to an "educated decision".

I'm not sure how asking about national stereotypes can lead to an "educated decision." Actually, IMO, it would be more than likely to lead to an "uneducated decision" since it would be information based on gossip and stereotypes, not facts and personal feelings.

You talk about people here being rude, but your own post was very rude, especially for a newbie. Pot, kettle, hypocrite?

Rudey 04-05-2006 06:57 PM

Just because she's new doesn't exactly give you the right to be rude to her either.

-Rudey

Quote:

Originally posted by kddani
Then what, pray tell you, are the national reputations of the groups she listed? Really, i'm curious, since you profess to know them.

She didn't ask about alumni "clubs" (or what we sorority women generally call "alumnae associations".). If she did, she could certainly find that info on the homepage of each of those organizations.

She didn't ask about region. She didn't ask about anything specific that would actually lead to an "educated decision".

I'm not sure how asking about national stereotypes can lead to an "educated decision." Actually, IMO, it would be more than likely to lead to an "uneducated decision" since it would be information based on gossip and stereotypes, not facts and personal feelings.

You talk about people here being rude, but your own post was very rude, especially for a newbie. Pot, kettle, hypocrite?


BobbyTheDon 04-05-2006 07:11 PM

Since Kddani mentioned regions. I'll give you the skinny on some sororities that I've come across during my undergrad.

Tri Delt- They are all super hot. Jesus christ. UCI, USC, UCLA. They are HOT HOT HOT HOT HOT

I'm not sure what other schools the tridelts are at, but at those three they are really hot.

The Pi Phis I've known in So Cal were pretty too. They were more of the brunette type. Me likes.


At my school, all the girls were hot. ZTA, KD, ChiO and EK =) . This may have changed but...EK = hot blondes. KD = cute brunettes. ChiO = cute blondes ZTA = really cute hot girls. always fun to be around. i always liked ZTA at my school. lots of really close friends from that chapter

The Chapman DGs were hot...Alpha Phis were the really pretty, all american girls.

at CSUF...ADPi and Gamma Phi Beta...hubba hubba.

Gamma Phi Beta was hot at UCR as well. As was AchiO and Kappa.

Never really knew that many SDSU girls, except Pi Phis are Theta, and both of them were hot.

Theta at UCI was hot. But I feel filthy for saying that since my cousin was a Theta there.


Oh, and if you go to UCSB and you are in a sorority, then it was a requirement for you to be hot. So at UCSB, everyone was winner there :) Except for one sorority though :(


eta: didn't get to mention Long Beach state much. I only met one tri delt there. If you multiply her by 100, then that chapter would be super duper hot. So just by her alone, Tri Delt was hot. Met a few Alpha Phis as well. They were pretty.

Never knew any AOPis though :( But I hear there was this one Frenchi AOPi from HB. I hear she was kind of hot. Too bad she's married though.

chio84 04-05-2006 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kddani
Then what, pray tell you, are the national reputations of the groups she listed? Really, i'm curious, since you profess to know them.

She didn't ask about alumni "clubs" (or what we sorority women generally call "alumnae associations".). If she did, she could certainly find that info on the homepage of each of those organizations.

She didn't ask about region. She didn't ask about anything specific that would actually lead to an "educated decision".

I'm not sure how asking about national stereotypes can lead to an "educated decision." Actually, IMO, it would be more than likely to lead to an "uneducated decision" since it would be information based on gossip and stereotypes, not facts and personal feelings.

You talk about people here being rude, but your own post was very rude, especially for a newbie. Pot, kettle, hypocrite?

1. Maybe you should re-read my post. i did not profess to know those sororities' national reputations. I merely stated that sororities, in general, DO have national reputations... which they do.

2. I'm sorry, at my school we refer to them colloquially as alumni (or alumnae, to be grammatically correct) clubs. For my sorority the correct term is actually alumnae chapter, not association. I'm not sure what you are trying to achieve with your "we sorority women" comment, but I'm guessing you are suggesting that I am not in a sorority.. not correct.

Of course she could look up information about alumni clubs. In fact, I think you could look up the answers to about 80% of the questions on this website. Sometimes it's easier to interact with others and ask a broad question than to take time and look up statistics on each of these sororities. Her question was very broad, and I think she just wanted whatever information anyone could give her. The girl is probably in high school - i'm sure she doesn't even know what specifics to ask for.

3. I think that knowing stereotypes about something does assist you in making an educated decision about it. In order to make a truly educated decision, you should attempt to find out all the information that you can, and make of it what you wish. If the stereotype of a certain sorority was crappy, maybe you would rather choose a sorority with a better stereotype. I'm not saying that's the correct thing to do, or what I would do, but it is certainly something that PLENTY sorority women DO take into account, like it or not... and they have every right to do so.

Secondly, a big part of sororities national reputations do have plenty to do with facts and figures. I am fairly confident that if anyone asked me what my sorority's national reputation is, one of the first things that I would say would be "well, we are very well known because we are the biggest sorority in the country." That is totally factual. I would also mention the fact that we have a lot of chapters in the South, and a much smaller presence in the Northeast. Perhaps other sororities have similar FACTUAL things they could say. I don't know- and neither does she.

4. How does me being new on the board affect whether I am allowed to post rude things or not? First of all, I'm not new, I just forgot my password to my other account, and secondly, NO ONE shoudl be rude. I was NOT being rude, merely sticking up for some poor girl who is probably totally turned off to the greek system by some incredibly ill-mannered people. One person even had the audacity to tell her that she wouldn't be a good addition to greek life, or something along those lines, because she asked that question. How ridiculous.

AOII_LB93 04-05-2006 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BobbyTheDon

Never knew any AOPis though :( But I hear there was this one Frenchi AOPi from HB. I hear she was kind of hot. Too bad she's married though.

Heheh, Bobby is my hero. :) Though not a "frenchie" for real, I am a teacher of said language...so am I a Frenchie by default? Anyhow..

I would be curious to know said National reputations, but considering the person who posted that probably hasn't met every member from every NPC organization, I doubt it would be accurate.

P.S. How goes it Bobby? =)

BobbyTheDon 04-05-2006 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AOII_LB93
Heheh, Bobby is my hero. :) Though not a "frenchie" for real, I am a teacher of said language...so am I a Frenchie by default? Anyhow..

I would be curious to know said National reputations, but considering the person who posted that probably hasn't met every member from every NPC organization, I doubt it would be accurate.

P.S. How goes it Bobby? =)


Hey whats up?! I've been good. Weather cleared up you know? Really windy though.


Ok more AOPi stuff. You can't really say Cal Poly SLO is SoCal, but AOPi at that school is very pretty. You'd be proud.



Stan, you need to help me out here bro.

lifesaver 04-05-2006 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by chio84
honestly, if i were reading this i would never want to be a part of any greek organization.
blah blah blah

If only it were so simple to keep the idiots out of greek life... be rude to them and they dont join. My job as chapter advisor would be 1000X easier.

BTW, too bad you didnt ask the same question when you were in HS....

kddani 04-05-2006 09:37 PM

So you don't know any sorority's national reputations, yet you insist that they have them?

chio84 04-05-2006 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kddani
So you don't know any sorority's national reputations, yet you insist that they have them?
wow.. you really need to work on your reading skills!

not "professing" about knowing them does not equal not knowing them. you can very easily know all about something without running around telling people you know it.

while i COULD give plenty of national reputations for other sororities, it's rude. so i won't.

pinkiebell1001 04-05-2006 10:29 PM

rawr... cat fight anyone???:P

But seriously, while it may not have been the BEST idea to post on a greek website asking about such things, alot of people who aren't in greek life may not realize that asking a question like that isn't really appropriate, so we should just give her a break people! Like someone else said, she's probably a 17 year old just starting to look at colleges, and so we really shouldn't pick on her-i know most of us have done/said stupider things when we were 17!

valkyrie 04-05-2006 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by chio84
Secondly, a big part of sororities national reputations do have plenty to do with facts and figures. I am fairly confident that if anyone asked me what my sorority's national reputation is, one of the first things that I would say would be "well, we are very well known because we are the biggest sorority in the country."
If homey wanna play like dat, I'd say that Chi Os are crazy-ass drama queens who drop people in coffins.






ETA: For those who are young, impressionable, and reading this, yes, I am kidding.

kddani 04-06-2006 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by chio84
wow.. you really need to work on your reading skills!

You're absolutely correct. When it comes to poorly written, long winded posts by someone whose shift key appears to be broken, my reading skills are subpar. Actually, I think that has to do more with my patience in not wanting to take the time to try to translate.

You said that knowing a sorority's reputation and stereotypes would potentially help this poster and others in making their decision. But then you say it would be rude to post these reputations. But isn't it MORE rude to say hey, I know this stuff, but I won't tell you. If these are important things to know, they how is it rude to post them? Especially when no one else here seems to know this information.

Out of the groups listed, and out of all the NPC groups in general, Tri Delta is probably the only one I could say something about. Which may just be due to how frequently they are mentioned in media (i.e. magazines, tv shows, etc.). But really, i've been greek for 6 1/2 years or so now, and have been on this board for probably about 3 1/2. I have yet to really come across national reputations for all the sororities. Local, yes. Regional, perhaps (i.e. Bobby's post). National, no.

AlphaFrog 04-06-2006 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kddani
You're absolutely correct. When it comes to poorly written, long winded posts by someone whose shift key appears to be broken, my reading skills are subpar. Actually, I think that has to do more with my patience in not wanting to take the time to try to translate.

I'm glad someone else was thinking it too;)


ETA: I really wish the Top Newbie Questions thread was required reading in order to sign up to post. Along with the posting video (I think CT4 posted it).

kddani 04-06-2006 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by chio84
First of all, I'm not new, I just forgot my password to my other account, and secondly, NO ONE shoudl be rude.
BTW, what's your old account? John is around almost every day now and i'm sure he could get things figured out for you.

If you've just forgotten your password, there's a little link next to the password box that says "forgot your password?". The next screen will take you to a screen where you can put in your email address and it will send you your password.

Rudey 04-06-2006 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kddani
You're absolutely correct. When it comes to poorly written, long winded posts by someone whose shift key appears to be broken, my reading skills are subpar. Actually, I think that has to do more with my patience in not wanting to take the time to try to translate.

You said that knowing a sorority's reputation and stereotypes would potentially help this poster and others in making their decision. But then you say it would be rude to post these reputations. But isn't it MORE rude to say hey, I know this stuff, but I won't tell you. If these are important things to know, they how is it rude to post them? Especially when no one else here seems to know this information.

Out of the groups listed, and out of all the NPC groups in general, Tri Delta is probably the only one I could say something about. Which may just be due to how frequently they are mentioned in media (i.e. magazines, tv shows, etc.). But really, i've been greek for 6 1/2 years or so now, and have been on this board for probably about 3 1/2. I have yet to really come across national reputations for all the sororities. Local, yes. Regional, perhaps (i.e. Bobby's post). National, no.

Do you consider yourself rude or polite?

-Rudey

Rudey 04-06-2006 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ariesrising
I still don't get the whole "national reputation" thing. I can't really think of a national reputation for any organization. I mean, I can tell you which ones have more members and more chapters, but that's about it.

I can tell you they're all *different* from each other....but aside from the obvious reasons like colours, mottos, reasons for founding etc, I can't tell you *why* they're different. They all just have different feels to them when I look at their sites and stuff.

What I think of as a sorority reputation as a whole would only come from what I see on GC and what my own local Greek life is like. Does that reflect the real world? Hardly.

It's not like people travel to every chapter of every single NPC sorority to see what everyone is like and can then make a judgement. That's really the only way you could do it - and even then your "results" would be subjective b/c it's *your* opinion. Someone else might see something totally different.

One person may think sorority XYZ is a huge organization filled with beautiful women and they have a lot of money, but are down to earth overall. Someone else may see that and think they're a way too big cookie cutter organization of daddy's girls. It's all about perception and no one is ever going to see the same exact thing, so image is useless.

So you decided to join Alpha Phi as an AI because of the colors and motto?

-Rudey

BobbyTheDon 04-06-2006 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rudey
Do you consider yourself rude or polite?

-Rudey


GC...when people stop being polite. And start getting real.

33girl 04-06-2006 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ariesrising
I still don't get the whole "national reputation" thing. I can't really think of a national reputation for any organization. I mean, I can tell you which ones have more members and more chapters, but that's about it.
Even on fratty, when people are talking primarily about systems that are in the same area and probably more like each other than not, there are a LOT of people saying things like "I can't believe you said the Nu Mus are hot - at our school they're dogs" and vice versa. If you can't get an agreement on there, I don't think there's one to be had.

Rudey 04-06-2006 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 33girl
Even on fratty, when people are talking primarily about systems that are in the same area and probably more like each other than not, there are a LOT of people saying things like "I can't believe you said the Nu Mus are hot - at our school they're dogs" and vice versa. If you can't get an agreement on there, I don't think there's one to be had.
Do you know why some women choose to AI a particular org over another?

I mean at that point they're not in college anymore.

-Rudey

33girl 04-06-2006 01:32 PM

Yes.


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