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PenguinTrax 03-29-2006 02:49 PM

FAMU suspends Kappa Alpha Psi chapter until 2013
 
http://www.tallahassee.com/apps/pbcs...36/1010/NEWS01


Florida A&M University has suspended a fraternity under investigation by the Sheriff's Office for hazing until 2013.

Kappa Alpha Psi Inc. is under investigation by the Leon County Sheriff's Office for an incident in which Marcus Jones, a 19-year-old sophomore from Decatur, Ga., reportedly was beaten severely for four days in late February while pledging to the fraternity. His injuries required surgery.

FAMU records show that the undergraduate Alpha Xi chapter of the fraternity received at least five cease-and-desist orders from the national Kappa Alpha Psi organization since 1999, university spokeswoman LaNedra Carroll said in a release Tuesday. The fraternity was suspended from FAMU from 2000 to 2003.

Administrators issued the suspension today, said Vincent June, vice president for student affairs, in the news release.

"We did this based on the research that showed a pattern of alleged behavior with this chapter," June said. "We just feel they need more time to be rehabilitated."

According to the FAMU Policy and Procedures manual, the fraternity does have the right to appeal the school's decision.

Greekopedia 03-29-2006 02:53 PM

From my understanding, Florida Law has become very strict concerning hazing issues... what will happen to those involved with this incident?? the individual brothers i mean...

Tom Earp 03-29-2006 05:14 PM

A lot will depend on who was envolved.

If even a few were envolved, the Chapter is gone. The individuals can be charged, arrested, jailed and go to court.

This sort of thing is ridiculous and has to stop.

Greekopedia 03-29-2006 05:24 PM

I wonder if students are aware of the severe consequences that may result from hazing. Frankly, I am willing to assume that hazing occurs on most college campuses..... every semester, GLOs risk getting caught...

Is the risk worth keeping tradition?

PenguinTrax 03-29-2006 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Greekopedia
From my understanding, Florida Law has become very strict concerning hazing issues... what will happen to those involved with this incident?? the individual brothers i mean...
If convicted, it's a felony according to the new laws passed last session.

The thing that's even sadder is that the boy's father is a Kappa.

exlurker 03-29-2006 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PenguinTrax
If convicted, it's a felony according to the new laws passed last session.

The thing that's even sadder is that the boy's father is a Kappa.

The Florida hazing law can be accessed at

http://www.stophazing.org/laws/fl_law.htm

The text of the law has links to the Florida laws that stipulate applicable prison sentences and fines for various degrees of felonies.

I agree with PenguinTrax; it's sad that the young man's father is a Kappa.

Greekopedia 03-29-2006 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by exlurker
The Florida hazing law can be accessed at

http://www.stophazing.org/laws/fl_law.htm

The text of the law has links to the Florida laws that stipulate applicable prison sentences and fines for various degrees of felonies.

I agree with PenguinTrax; it's sad that the young man's father is a Kappa.

That makes me wonder if the father actually approves of the hazing.... allowing his son to go experience what he went through???

PenguinTrax 03-30-2006 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Greekopedia
That makes me wonder if the father actually approves of the hazing.... allowing his son to go experience what he went through???
Absolutely not - his father came out vehemently opposed to this event and is strongly anti-hazing.

Here's a link to the article (cached in google): http://snipurl.com/oetb

DeltAlum 03-30-2006 10:53 AM

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Originally posted by PenguinTrax
http://snipurl.com/oetb
That's a tough article.

Sometimes you just have to shake your head and wonder if the hazers are really that brutal, or if this is something that got totally out of hand.

In either event, it is a sad situation which hurts the entire Greek System -- not just the chapter and fraternity involved.

Rain Man 03-30-2006 12:11 PM

No, not the Rock! (Alpha Xi Chapter)

Their website was off the chain and they had some of the tightest looking pro show pics through the years.

It's a shame they got suspended over some foolishness. :(

PenguinTrax 03-30-2006 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rain Man
No, not the Rock! (Alpha Xi Chapter)

Their website was off the chain and they had some of the tightest looking pro show pics through the years.

It's a shame they got suspended over some foolishness. :(

yes, it is and it's hit the FAMU and FSU Greek communities hard. Unfortunately, the chapter had a history of problems - they just came back to campus a little over 2 years ago.

kddani 03-30-2006 02:04 PM

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Originally posted by Rain Man
It's a shame they got suspended over some foolishness. :(
Beating someone to the point that he needs surgery is slightly beyond "some foolishness"

Lady of Pearl 04-24-2006 07:12 PM

Yes it goes way beyond foolishness it becomes foolhardy. Why jeopardize yourself, your chapter, and your organization simply beause you want the "respect" of your so called brothers. Cases like this truly sicken me and makes me wonder about the members who purport to uphold this kind of behavior. Obviously, foresight, and the concern of others -besides themselves and their reputation never crossed their minds.:mad:

bluethunder 04-24-2006 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Greekopedia
I wonder if students are aware of the severe consequences that may result from hazing. Frankly, I am willing to assume that hazing occurs on most college campuses..... every semester, GLOs risk getting caught...

Is the risk worth keeping tradition?

beating people to the point of surgery is NOT tradition; it's brutality.

and this thing the school said:

"We did this based on the research that showed a pattern of alleged behavior with this chapter," June said. "We just feel they need more time to be rehabilitated."

if these grown people cannot refrain from this type of behavior after being repeatedly suspended, perhaps there is not any realistic hope of "rehabilitation".

and finally, with regard to the victim's father being a Kappa, i am a firm believer that the NPHC fraternity or sorority that becomes the first to be completely extinct due to a mega-hazing lawsuit will not be because of some person from afar, but rather it will be a member of an NPCH org who had their son or daughter go through this kind of ordeal.

this kind of behavior is just NOT okay and... if people are going to continue to participate in these pledge activities that they know are no longer required or authorized by the NPHC or any of its affiliate organizations, they need to know when to say, "i quit" because no matter how much you may want in to the frat or the sorority, its just not worth your life or you dignity.

chucktown2bc06 12-05-2006 01:53 PM

FAMU trial on Court TV
 
I am not a member of KAPsi, but I wonder if anyone noticed the playboi bunny lapel that the boys father wore while he was being questioned on the stand. didnt the Polemarch ask all Kappas to quit associating the playboy bunny with the organization due to the threat of lawsuit from Playboy?
Talk about some who is loyal to the orders of thier organization!

Cube TX 11-03-2008 10:31 AM

This case was one of the ones recently covered on E! True Hollywood Story regarding hazing. The show started with the Chad Meredith case at the Univ. of Miami and went on to discuss Florida's strong laws against hazing due to his death.

Apparently the two guys who were "in charge" of the beating of the pledges were both given 2 years in prison. This Marcus Jones guy was beaten so badly and had nowhere to go except to his father's house, which was 250 miles away. He required surgery from the beating. The father was very upset and outspoken against what happened to his son and was also on the show.

This is one of the dumbest "traditions" I've heard of a chapter doing, and I've heard some REALLY stupid ones over the years. It's really sad to think that this comes from a fraternity whose ideals are very traditional in its views of brotherhood.

GOT2BReal 05-27-2009 05:50 PM

Edited -- rumors/hearsay. Read the stickies before posting.

-- the management.

knight_shadow 05-27-2009 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by GOT2BReal (Post 1812516)
Not even a QFP will save this from the rumor/hearsay filter.

QFP

Who is "you people"? This thread hasn't had any relevant responses in 3 years.

hu-man 05-27-2009 06:05 PM

Why?
 
the light is the only way out of the darkness!

Senusret I 05-27-2009 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by GOT2BReal (Post 1812516)
See above.

The real coward is the fool who hides behind a screen name.

Senusret I 05-27-2009 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by hu-man (Post 1812522)
the light is the only way out of the darkness!

Ithca?

Kevin 05-27-2009 07:49 PM

I'm really not sure what it was I just deleted, but it looked an awful lot like posting rumors/hearsay. The rest of the thread appears to be ok. Either people are quoting directly from media sources (who I assume are somewhat careful about what they print) or they're condemning the bad behavior.

To our new posters: Because oftentimes, subjects arising in this forum have ongoing criminal and civil investigations attached to them and because of the potential for libel liability, I don't allow posting of rumors and hearsay.

Feel free to send a PM to me if you think I'm in the wrong or you can argue with me about it here. Either way.

knight_shadow 05-27-2009 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Senusret I (Post 1812560)
Ithca?

Maybe he goes to Conell?

agzg 05-27-2009 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 1812570)
Maybe he goes to Conell?

Cornell students know better.

This kid is SNY Ithca all the way. Also known as "Ithca Stte."

knight_shadow 05-27-2009 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by agzg (Post 1812596)
This kid is SNY Ithca all the way. Also known as "Ithca Stte."

The cornerstone of a NY education, I'm sure. :p

agzg 05-27-2009 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 1812597)
The cornerstone of a NY education, I'm sure. :p

He could potentially be from Ithaca College - those music majors, while lovely people, aren't always the best spellers.

SUNY Ithaca is a slam on Cornell (people think it shouldn't be a part of or even compared to an Ivy League).

knight_shadow 05-27-2009 08:46 PM

^^^ Yea, I figured as much.

agzg 05-27-2009 08:50 PM

LOL I never know what people have heard before. I could say that to live-in and he'd say "huh?"

knight_shadow 05-27-2009 09:01 PM

But remember, I'm the guy who recognized "you know w-h-e-r-e" so I'm full of surprises lol

agzg 05-27-2009 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by knight_shadow (Post 1812609)
But remember, I'm the guy who recognized "you know w-h-e-r-e" so I'm full of surprises lol

I always forget that you're stuck inside my brain somewhere. Are you a figment of my imagination?


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