Crystal Meth
 

FYI ...

My sister and her husband have been working recovering Crystal Meth addicts and they told me that the police and the recovering addicts have all reported that Crystal Meth dealers are mixing it with joints and other harder drugs.

Crystal meth is gay

Gay, it is deadly.

Get with it!:rolleyes:

Oklahoma leads the nation in meth labs. I knew if we tried hard enough we'd be number 1 at something.

congrats

Meth is the hillbilly herion, correct?

Meth is what they make when they use psuedophedrine (sudafed) in homemade labs. That is why it is behind the counters at pharmacies. Soccer moms are becoming addicts overnight across America.

http://www.nida.nih.gov/Infofacts/methamphetamine.html

Get over it! Just a suggestion, it is a suck Killing drug!

Your Post does not help.

Yeah, i've read how bad it is in these small towns of only maybe a few hundred residents. I don't know anybody who messes around with meth but I have come across a good number of crack users, and if anybody wants to scare their kids off the temptation of drugs, let them hang out with a crack-head for a few hours.

This is no longer the case. Since the new laws passed restricting the sell of pseudophedrine (a key component), the number of meth lab busts has plumetted. Instead, we're getting a much higher quality substance transported to Oklahoma from Mexico via I-35.

I was looking for an article that I remember reading about a year or two ago about people moving into homes and shortly afterwards getting very sick/strange unknown illnesses. When they tested these homes for possible bacteria or mold ( reasons thought to cause their illness ) they found out that the houses were previously used as meth labs. From my understanding any building used as a meth lab usually has some residue floating around and is usually considered very unhealthy to live in. Has anybody read or heard about this?

Excellent comeback!

I'm pretty sure that I can't say anything about meth, I know the county next to my hometown is ridiculous about it, but they're abunch of small town guys. My hometown imported more cocaine per capita than the any town in the state did. So I believe I know a little something about class, sorry.

One of my friends at Alabama told me that a meth lab blew up in the basement of the SAE house a few years back. No idea if it is true or not.

The first case I worked on as a summer assocaite was about the injuries suffered by nurses and doctors at a hospital from a patient who was allegedly toxic. One of the theories of the case was that what really made them sick was that someone was running a meth lab out of the basement of the hospital. Of course another was that someone had thrown an ammonia cap down the hopper right before the surgery started. It was a crazy case.

Crystal Meth is slowly moving across North America - West to East, it is in small towns and big cities. It has addicts who are homeless teenagers, Soccer Moms, and university students.

The reason it is gaining footholds in all cities and towns is because it is so inexpensive to make, and so profitable when sold.

One problem with "tracking" the effects of Crystal Meth is that if the person dies, it is usually because of some other reason (such as hitting a tree) being the final reason, but the deceased hit the tree because they were high on Crystal Meth.

In BC, there are a number of films coming out of the "bait cars" [cars planted on the streets to tempt car thieves, that contain hidden cameras in the car to record the crime] where the thief is high on Crystal Meth. The scarriest film, which made national news broadcasts, had a guy high on Crystal Meth speeding along a major street in the city, with a gun, which thankfully was not loaded. If the gun had been loaded, a number of bystanders could have been wounded or killed.

you've gotta be nuts to get into crystal meth. The crap that goes into it- including DRAIN CLEANER

K C Kansas City Police and DEA bust 27 people in 3 different Meth Rings. Most of it was coming up from Mexico!

Yea for the bust!

This S**T is bad to the bone!

What about crystal meth makes you think it preferrs other methamphetamines of the same gender?

So witty:rolleyes:

The meth scare is completely over done and there is no way the government should take away Sudafeds.

Is that why they use HazMat teams whenever they discover a Meth Lab?

A member of my family did some Crystal Meth experimenting in her younger years, and you won't convince me that the scare is overdone as long as it is still available to anyone.

That's my opinion.

Joints are "harder" than crystal meth? Are they Booger's wonder joints from Revenge of the Nerds?

oh, and if someone takes my sudafed, I won't be a happy person.

A gun is also available to a person and can do more damage.

In terms of drugs, it's in the media more but it is not an epidemic. That's something your media brethren created.

And it is gay. It's huge among the gay population who take it with viagra and have marathon sex sessions with hundreds of people. I've never heard anyone do that with pot so pot is straight.

-Rudey

They haven't taken it away yet where you live?

It was in the 80s I think when the DEA was able to stop the spread of meth/speed by actually stopping the suppliers of the chemicals (an innovative idea that paid off) but when they tried to stop crystal meth by blocking sales of cold medicines, the lobbies went ape and destroyed that with a presidential seal of approval.

-Rudey
--I saw it on Frontline a couple weeks ago I think

Hey guys lets protect everyone from themselves. The government knows best!

I saw a guy get hit with a baseball bat while he was playing baseball! It hurt me for life. Do we take away baseball bats? Or better yet, lets take away baseball! (actually a good idea, but whatever)

Have you guys seen the tshirts that say, "Guns don't kill people, Chuck Norris kills people?"



This also makes me think of my brother's bumper sticker. He's a cute kid (ha, at 22) but he's a little bit of a barrel sucker. Likes his 2nd amendment rights and all that. Anyway, the bumper sticker says, "Guns Kill People Like Spoons Make Rosie O'Donnell Fat".

Your brother scares me.

-Rudey

He works at a deli. Makes a killer sandwich, too.

When they clean up a meth lab, the HazMat team clears out the whole neighborhood - due to the possibility of an explosion. They don't clear out the neighborhood when they confiscate a gun from someone's house. I'd rather have someone have a gun in my neighborhood then a meth lab.

I remember seeing that on the news. There was one psycho lady got busted about 4 times in that neighborhood.

Why?
 

I understand that this is an important topic, but unless a GLO is forcing their NM's to smoke it, it doesn't belong here.

If Stephanie Tanner can get addicted, I guess anyone can.

First of all, don't buy weed from a meth dealer.

Second, always roll your own.

Third, drugs are bad.

When I read this, I hear Mr. Mackey from South Park saying it with an "mmmkay?"

Crystal meth can sound pretty good sometimes.

http://www.thecrystalmethod.com/

Re: Why?
 

Actually, I asked myself the same question.

It's a judgement call.

At first, I locked the thread. Then it occurred to me that there are a number of "generic" threads about alcohol abuse, education and a few others that are not specific to any GLO, chapter or person.

So, I reopened it.

Thank You DeltAlum. A Good Call! It does affect us today more than ever.

Drugs of any kind can be addictive if used or even when someone spikes something.

It can harm or kill a person who is not even aware of it.:(

It is not a fun subject as to many people die from drugs, Legal or Illegal.

DeltAlum is right. Risk Management is not just dealing with Hazing of NMs. It deals with educating members to make choices to avoid risky situations, which is why so many sororities (can't speak for the fraternities) have guest speakers talking about drinking and driving, safe sex, etc. All of these are Risk Management Issues.

Crystal Meth is one area that has been relatively unexplored. However, I double checked on things and not only is it being used to lace joints (rolled by yourself or otherwise) it is the pot inside the joint that is laced, so unless you have your own grow-op, you run a risk and should be aware of it.

In addition, the police have been finding it laced in the club drugs - Ecstasy (which already contains a high percentage of meth ... aka speed), GHB, and coke.

If you are thinking of making a presentation to your chapter on this issue, look around for reputable information, such as Roger Lake's Web site. He has been dealing with meth in the States for over a decade so you can see it is not a new issue, just unexplored.

http://www.wsnia.org

WASHINGTON - Suffer from springtime allergies? You could be among the first affected by the USA Patriot Act poised for final congressional passage this week.

Besides terrorism, the bill takes aim at the production of methamphetamine, a highly addictive drug that cannot be manufactured without a key ingredient of everyday cold and allergy medicines. The bill would impose new limits next month for how much relief a person can buy over the counter.

And beginning Sept. 30, it'll take a flash of ID to buy that medication.

The legislation sponsored by Sens. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif. and Jim Talent, R-Mo., would blanket the nation with one policy that would put medicines containing pseudoephedrine behind the counter and out of the reach of meth cooks.

"If we leave it up to local jurisdiction, we're simply going to move the problem from one jurisdiction to another without addressing the root cause," said Fresno, Calif., Police Chief Jerry Dyer.

Pass a state or local law cracking down on methamphetamine production, set off a cycle that goes something like this:

The black market price of cold tablets needed to make the drug skyrockets, driving the meth makers to the jurisdiction next door. There, they buy it in bulk — legally, cheaply, anonymously.

That is, until that state or city gets tough on meth with new laws of its own.

Rather than wait for localities to stitch together a patchwork of anti meth policies, the provision of the Patriot Act would leave meth producers nowhere to run but out of the country. It takes aim at the meth trade's weakest point — the supply of pseudoephedrine.

Beginning 30 days after President Bush signs the law, expected sometime this week, purchase limits go into effect. One person would be limited to buying 300, 30-mg pills in a month or 120 such pills in a day. The measure would make an exception for "single-use" sales — individually packaged pseudoephedrine products.

Many retailers, such as Kmart, Walgreens, Target and Wal-Mart, have already adopted guidelines to limit customer access to cold products or to limit their sales.

Similar state and local restrictions have caused seizures of meth labs to plunge by double-digit percentages in such states as Arkansas, Oregon and Missouri.

At the same time, drug agents began finding more meth from Mexican cartels on the street.

Still, closing down domestic meth labs is of unique urgency to public health and safety, law enforcement officials said.

The drug is made in clandestine labs with battery acid, drain cleaner or other chemicals that help turn the cold and allergy medicine into powder.

One quart of ether, another ingredient, holds the explosive power of several sticks of dynamite, said Sgt. Jason Grellner of the Franklin County, Mo., Narcotics Enforcement Unit, which has seized 600 meth labs since 1998 in a jurisdiction of 100,000 people.

Wading into the toxic soup of a meth lab puts officers in situations for which they are not necessarily trained, Grellner said.

"They have to know the job of a hazardous-waste chemist. They have to have the mindset of a firefighter. They have to be a natural-resources worker," Grellner said. "Wearing that many hats is a safety concern."

And an abandoned lab becomes an environmental hazard, pointed out Dyer.

"They were leaving the chemicals and equipment out in the open and vacating the property," Dyer said. "They found out that we started to trace down suspects with that equipment. Now they are burying these same items underground."

Oklahoma provides evidence that driving out meth labs doesn't mean getting rid of meth. Oklahoma's meth lab seizures have fallen 90 percent since April 2004, when it became the first state to ban over-the-counter sales of everyday cold and allergy medications.

At the same time, seizures of smokeable Mexican meth known as "crystal ice" rose nearly fivefold, from 384 cases in the 15 months before the law to 1,875 since.

"We're going to see trafficking by Mexican cartel organizations, on a much larger scale," Grellner said.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060307/...4yBHNlYwNmYw--

Not to mention how bad it f*cks up your teeth!

I am in the Northwest and I see plenty of tweakers with the meth mouth