AKL Chapter Closed
 

Alpha Kappa Lambda chapter at CMoSU was closed by its Natioal Headquarters and told to move out of the Campus housing complex.

The chapter held a Beer and Chicken party on MLK Day at their School living quarters wearing baggy pants, doo-rags, and drinking out 0f 40 oz bottles of beer in brown sacks.

While it may seem harsh, it was very insensative on the part of the Fraternity.

:o :(

link?

I thought this might make sense in Risk Management. If anyone strongly disagrees, it can move back.

Wow. :(

Are you joking? No one has official parties for that sort of thing, but I think everyone celebrates MLK that way. I know we did. chicken wings from hooters, 40's, and friday after next.

If anyone locates a link for this, could you please post it here? I actually need it, because it really backs up the argument I made when I turned down an invite to a Black History Month party a few weeks ago. :mad:

You could try

http://www.digitalburg.com/artman/pu...cle_1177.shtml

I am at lost for what they actually did wrong.

Have they physically hurt someone? Did someone get hurt at this party?

I don't know about you but I'm pretty sure all sorts of free speech bugs the hell out of me, but i'm not going to get groups like PRIDE and the Campus Greens to disband.

I think Tom is right that this is a huge sensitivity issue.

while they didn't physically hurt anyone, I don't think that this is the representation of membership that AKL desires. It would be offensive to brothers within the organization itself...that whole "brother's keeper" part, ya know? If it was up to me, I wouldn't have closed the chapter, but cleaned house and given the rest of them a good lesson in manners, representation and general "how not to be an a$$hole".

Thank You exlurker. I just saw on late news last night and in KC paper this morning.


ilikehazing, I think You are missing the whole picture here actually.:(

While not physically hurting anyone, eating chicken and drinking beer is not what the whole point was, but the way it was handled and feelings of others on campus.

It also included have beer in the portion of the School owned housing complex and AKL being a "dry" organization plus School rules.

As far as cleaning House and leaving the Chapter there would be very hard with no members. This was a full blown Chapter party periord, not a few members doing something ignorant.

DeltAlum, not sure if R M should be the place or only place for the thread as G L gets more hits than anyother thread. That is why I posted it there as opposed to a Risk Management situation. I am sure it could have been sloted in either one.

Awhh it huwt the sensitive feewings of ovwers? That is so sad. Were there actually black people at this party? Why didn't they leave if they were offended? If there weren't, then how did it offend anyone?

Sad, very sad. Not funny at all.

Go give someone a Mouth Hug.

Remember, if one acts like a BEM, then they will be treated like a BEM!

Maybe sad, but not an answer.

Answer me.

The entire concept is over your head. Let it go.

Oh that explained it! thanks for your great articulate thoughts!

No, it's not over my head, it seems like it is over yours.

:(

Let Me put it another way.

The Chapter Alums did not like what the Chapter did.

Now, not only is there no Chapter, there is no Chapter for Actives and Alums alike.

If You are in a Greek Organization and were an Alum, would You like to be in the position where You would not go back to You Alma Mater and see Your Old Alum members and meet New Members?

I saw this on the news last night. They showed a few pics but I can't find them on the net.

Here is a link to an article Fraternity suspended after racially insensitive party

It doesn't sound as if the alumni actually caused them to shut down, I think it was the University. I understand the alcohol policy, as I too live in a "dry" house. However, the University lets us drink as much as we want as long as it it's in cups. It seems that the political correct in the administration won over. Another decline of free speech in America...

Doesn't the case of Skokie protect this sort of thing? I'm pretty sure they ruled in favor of the KKK on this one.

The Alums did not have anything to do with the Chapter being closed, but agreed that it was the correct thing. Not happy but still did not agree with the party theme which was insensative and broke School and National Rules.

regardlees, there is no longer an AKL Chapter on CMoU!:(

I doubt anyone closes their chapters over just insensitivity. I'm not buying that. It seems like the media organizations picked it up and reported it that way. The way I read it, the house was supposed to be dry and this was a violation of the alcohol policy. I can understand closing a house for repeated alcohol violations, but for one racially insensitive party? I'm not buying it.

I think this is being 'spun' into a racial incident.

ktsnake an interesting thought as You have a back ground of TV and News Media.

It is hard for Me to not think of You when I see TV!:D

It just seems as if there was a culmination of things. I dont know the History of the AKLs there so I am flying blind.

I'm pretty sure the Mu Lambda Kappa chapter of AKL at Memphis is pretty dead as well for the same things.

I've never even heard of AKL, are they a smaller national fraternity?

AKL isn't found in the south. It's primarily a northern and western fraternity.

Not true. AKL has chapters in Virginia, Tennessee, Alabama, Missouri, and Georgia. While it was founded out west (first to be founded on the west coast, actually, in CA), it isn't limited to the north and west.


AKL is a little smaller as fraternities go, and interesting as they take a different approach to brotherhood - very emphatic on the friendship part, less so on the secrecy. On their website they explain that AKL stands for "Alethia Kai Logos," meaning "The Truth and the Word." I've also heard AKL stands for "an Affiliation Kindled for Life".

They're great guys - I'm the daughter of one, and dated another in school.

Don't get me wrong, I think it was a crappy thing for them to do, but people do have first amendment rights. I doubt that they got closed for offensive behavior as well. it probably was more of an alcohol issue. I mean, honnestly, last year someone shot a gun into the air at a Delt party I was at. Apparetly attenders were fighting, I'm sure one or both of them were offened, and I know most of us were terrified when the gun went off. The Delts are still goin strong and as far as I know didnt have any reprecussions, and I wouldnt expect them to. In fact, SigmaX Derby Days here involves nearly naked women mud restling, that offends me, but that's why I dont go to watch or participate. They arent going to get closed b/c of it, and I would be really upset if they did.
I would feel that way no matter how offended I am.

I'm surprised (glad?) I didn't hear about this, but I disagree that there shouldn't have been repercussions.

If it was a real gun, firing a real round (not a blank), that's potentially life threatening. I'm sure that if the (Delt) Central Office knew about this, there would have been an investigation at the very least -- to say nothing of the University Police.

http://www.bsudailynews.com/media/pa...udailynews.com

http://www.bsudailynews.com/media/pa...udailynews.com

http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/sh...ghlight=bullet

Thought the Delt- gun thing sounded familiar so i did a search

Oh, I remember this now -- it turned into a thread on whether a bullet fired in the air will really hurt you when it comes down.

I don't want to be the crash test dummy on that one.

I guess the shooting was actually not done by a Delt, and it wasn't in the house, but rather out in front after the Delts threw some folks out of a party.

Bad situation all the same.

And just in case you're wondering, no, it won't hurt you.

I take it, that You are talking about a projectile falling from the sky?

Do You want to try it?

What goes up must come down. Maybe not at the same velocity as leaving the barrel of a weapon, but I guarentee You it will do some damage!

a 14 year old 3 blocks away from my aunt in scottsdale, died from a bullet falling from a gun that was shot several blocks away. she was hit in the head, it went right throw her. think of the force of gravity, i think it just depends on how far up it goes or the angle of the shot for how far and fast it will fall. Physics

Actually, yes it will; ChinaBuffet got it essentially correct. The principle involved is conservation of energy, and is a standard part of any 1st-year physics course.

The short version is, in a closed system (i.e. in the absence of any "outside interference"), the total amount of energy remains the same. In other words, a bullet has the same energy coming back down as it did when it went up. The angle of the shot will have something to say about where it lands, but anyone standing there at the time would be most unfortunate.

When this debate first started, I did some google searching and read some opinions by military ballistics experts, PhD's, etc.

Bottom line is that nobody really agrees 100% on the answer.

If I'm standing around and someone fires into the air, I'm finding cover in a hurry.

Just to be safe.

Nope. It's not true. I'm not insensitive to the tragedy of the child who died from a bullet fired three blocks away.

This issue might have gotten a little confused by the terms. "A projectile falling from the sky" is vague. A round fired in a shallow arc across the distance of, say, a few blocks, might still possess some of the start velocity when it hits. When by-standers are hurt by random bullets during celebrations, it's usually because the rounds are fired upward, into buildings, or in shallow arcs.

But if you fire bullets straight up into the air, they should not damage you when they come straight down. Unless you're looking up and one hits you in the eye.

Think, for example, about all the bullets fired by airplanes during dogfights above ground troops. For the most part, the planes are high enough in the air so that the rounds lose their velocity and go into free-fall before they hit the ground. If we stood on top of a tall building and dropped a handful of standard military bullets, minus the casings, they aren't going to kill anyone. They might ding a car or two, but they aren't coming down point first, and they won't hit with enough velocity to do any great harm.