My Teacher Used to be a Man. . .
 

I heard about this on the radio this morning and now it on Yahoo News front page. . .

EAGLESWOOD TOWNSHIP, N.J. - To students at Eagleswood Elementary School, she used to be Mr. McBeth. Now, after undergoing a sex change, 71-year-old Lily McBeth is ready to return to teaching as Miss McBeth.

Despite criticism from parents, the school board on Monday stood by its decision to allow McBeth to resume working as a substitute teacher.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060228/...her_sex_change

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Lily McBeth, a retired sales executive who fathered 3 children, was a substitute teacher for 5 years before a sex change operation.


As a parent, how would you feel if this was your child's teacher?

*falling out* That is NOT a flattering photo

ROTFL at you falling out over the photo - and not the fact that he use to be a man! LOL But he is grinning like a Cheshire cat in that pic though....

But to answer CT4's question, I don't know. In terms of the article, this man/woman is in his/her 70s - so what can you do? I would have a problem if he did this while teaching. Explaining why Mr. McBeth now wears a dress and lipstick is a conversation that I shouldn't be FORCED into having with my elementary school child.

I would have to send my kids to another school.

I'm conflicted in how I feel about this. Do I feel like explaining this to my daughter? Not really, but does that mean she shouldn't have the right to go back and teach? This is a hard call for me.

I'm saying though, the picture was the first thing I noticed. LOL. I'm really not sure what I would do.

I think I would too....I can't imagine having to explain this to a 6 year old....

Plus the article said he still has a deep voice. Can't you take hormones for that or something?

There are worse things to have to explain to children (like rape and murder). This seems to pale in comparison. I also think facing a situation like this would benefit a child in the future, in understanding the varying differences among people.

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:eek:

WHOA-LEE SNOT!!

That is one ugly "chick"! UGGGGGGGLAYYYYYYYY, gosh DANG that chick is ugly.

As far as what I would've told my kid(s), how do you explain to a prepubescent kid that a male's manhood is now drowning in a bottle of fermaldehyde?

I need to take a break. That pic made me think "she" was a tranny.

LOLOLOLOLOL

disclaimer - I don't have kids -

But - IF I was a breeder, I would rather have my kids taught by Mister Sister than someone with a criminal record.

Reminds me of when I worked at a Fortune 500 company in MN. One summer I worked with "Becky". "Becky" used to be "Bob" but then one day "Bob" woke up and decided he wanted to be "Becky". So "Becky" started wearing dresses and makeup (which didn't hide the stubble) and nailpolish. But "Becky" still used her mug that said "Number 1 Dad" :eek:

The next summer, my company paid for "Bob" to become "Becky" permanently. Now "Becky's" kids have 2 mommies.

I can't take it...

hahahhahahaha


I cant breathe... OMGoodness thats hilarious... how do you tell your kids daddy is now mommy or mommy wants to be daddy?

He is still teaching. The article says that he reapplied for his position under his new name/identity. They had a vote and he was hired back on.

I don't know that many children could fully grasp his change and what it means for him and his life. I certainly couldn't explain it all that well b/c I don't fully grasp it myself. I'd really have to give it quite a bit of thought b4 I made my final decision. However, I would have to handle this issue separate and independant from other issues (like the greater difficulty of explaing rape/murder or being taught by a criminal/molester). I think that my position would be to try and protect my children from any and all forseen threats, not just the greater of 2 evils.

Please clarify how and why the company paid for this operation. Or was it Becky/Bob's health insurance provided by your company?

Correct.

first i have to say, a session w/a drag queen to polish the look would be a good thing. just a suggestion....
as for her staying on as a teacher, i think the kids will adjust far better than the parents. kids don't have the same hangups adults do. initially, a child will see someone like this and try and wrap their minds around it and move on w/o attaching the prejudices that they are later taught.

Good point.

To me that like asking do you want to date the man with no teeth or no job. Neither one are options for me. It's not like someone will say you have a choice of the teacher that used to be a man but is now a woman or the teacher that was (is) a rapist. No deviations from those choices are allowed.

If it was my child--and I don't have any--I would have to say "none of the above"

How do you wake up at 70 and decide you want to be a woman. But to each his own? I do agree that parents will have more of an issue than kids. As long as he's doing his job and doing it well I don't think I would have a problem.

As a matter of fact I had a pre-op transgender (I think he was going from man to woman, but quite frankly I couldn't really tell). And he had one of those gender neutral names. The freshman boys in class had a field day the first couple classes and I spent the first day trying to figure out what gender he was but after the first few day we all could care less, cause he was good at what he did.

SPEW WARNING!
 

Mr SageofAges worked with contractor from Holland. "Liz" was a 6'1" linebacker looking male to female transexual (with flaming naturally red hair :)

She was a delightful person really. We picked her up at the airport for one of her visits to where we lived. We had our then 2.5 year old son in the car with us in his car seat.

Now on a "foreshadowing note here"...our son was at that age where he was developing that close personal relationship that many males have with that part of their body :).

So Liz gets in the front seat, and I moved to the back to sit with son. As soon as she sits down and we start driving off, our son pipes up with "I have a penis, do you have a penis?"

I had to do everything I could to not laugh....THANK GOD I was sitting behind her so she couldn't see my face as I stifled the giggles :).

Later my husband said to me "I was wondering the same thing myself"

Ok, you may all wipe your computer screens off now.

I don't know if I necessarily agree with that. Since she's teaching elementary school, a lot of the students there, particularly the boys, are at that age when they start to develop a cruel sense of humor. Granted that your average 3rd or 4th grader isn't going to understand why a man would want to become a woman, I think that this could cause some of the students, particularly the bullies, to make jokes and such at Lily's expense.

This is just too sick & sad for me. At the very least, the school district should but him (her) at another school.

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LMAO!!!

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WOW, just WOW

Once I saw this pic, I had to back away from my desk.

I keep thinking about Mr. Garrison (South Park) and his sex change. "Look at me I'm a woman!"

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LMAO!!! You can't leave us hanging sageofages....what did she say???

They should've let him go back to substituting, but only for older kids. One minute you have kindergarteners/ 1st graders trying to learn their ABCs & add - then heshe walks into the room? That is NOT a conversation a 6 yr old should have to grasp. :rolleyes:

AND

After 70 yrs as a man - you NOW decide to become a WOMAN?
#1. WHY?
#2. Could it be senility?
#3. .....WHY?

i would think that this teacher wouldn't worry about an 8 yr. old bully. the other students, yes but not an adult teacher.
this story reminds me of when i was around that age when i saw on the show Real People (anyone remember that on NBC decades ago?) where a married couple changed genders. i thought it was so wild. he turned into a 6' 8" she, she an 5 foot he. the imagery just struck me though i was too young to think about gender, sexuality, homo-/heterosexuality, etc.. i just thought that grown-ups are a different lot and kept on. no judgement but wonderment. all this other stuff came later when i was old enough to grasp it.
if i had a kid and their teacher went through all of that, i'd like to think it would be a learning opportunity, not a time to shield them from reality.

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sick & sad
 

HE/SHE LOOKS LIKE THAT WOMAN WHO TURNED CLINTON IN, Linda Tripp was her name, I think.

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ROTFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!

There are girls on this website with broader shoulders than her. Plus I had female teachers that could give her/him/it a run for testosterone levels.

-Rudey
--That's nothing.

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That is too funny!

LMAO!!!!