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kdonline 02-28-2006 02:57 AM

The Apprentice - Season 5
 
It's only been 2 or 3 years since this show has been on air & already there's Season 5?!

Anyway, we watched the first episode tonight. I'm proud to see Allie, a fellow Univ of Florida alumna as a candidate (the winner of Apprentice 2 or 3 was a UF grad, too! :)..

Allie was a Gator Cheerleader...and a Kappa Delta!!! Woohoooo!!

And I'm happy to see that she was the first winning Project Manager of this season!

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ETA:

Make that TWO KDs!

Charmaine Hunt is also a Kappa Delta from Western Kentucky!

annice22 02-28-2006 09:52 AM

I will not be watching this season. In my opinion Donald Trump is a jerk. I might not like Martha Stewart but he used this little public argument to boost his rating for this season. I use to admire him for his business savy but with recent events with the Apprentice 4 winner and the Martha Stewart incident he just seems like a attention seeking person instead of a business minded person.

KSigkid 02-28-2006 10:02 AM

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Originally posted by annice22
I use to admire him for his business savy.
To tell you the truth, I'm not sure how much business savvy he really has; he hasn't really been that successful as a businessman, especially when you consider the fact that he nearly wasted his inheritance.

MysticCat 02-28-2006 11:13 AM

I think Trump is a joke, but that's part of the entertainment value of the show.

I have 2 questions:

What kind of lame name is Gold Rush?

And have Tarek and Summer never watched this show before? What clueless maroons!

Sister Havana 02-28-2006 01:58 PM

Hasn't a team already used Synergy (or something close to it) for a team name already?

MysticCat 02-28-2006 02:09 PM

Apprentice Teams:

Season 1 -- Versacorp and Protege
Season 2 -- Apex and Mosaic
Season 3 -- Magna (college grads) and Net Worth (non-college grads)
Season 4 -- Excel and Capital Edge
Martha's Apprentice -- Matchstick and Primarius
Season 5 -- Synergy and Gold Rush

I still think Matchstick is the best name any of the teams has come up with, while Gold Rush has to be the worst. Most of the other names, including Synergy, are just blah.

ETA: I asked rhetorically earlier whether Tarek had ever watched this show before, since he made stupid mistakes that anyone familiar with the show (and in MENSA) should know to avoid. Well, apparently the rhetorical question wasn't so rhetorical after all. Per the "interview" on NBC.com: "I've only seen a few episodes of the Apprentice because I don’t own a television, but from what I gather the past winners seem like high achievers who have benefited from a lot of luck."

kdonline 03-01-2006 06:32 PM

Another candidate is a KD:

Charmaine Hunt is Kappa Delta from Western Kentucky.

KDAngel 03-02-2006 04:16 AM

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Originally posted by kdonline
Another candidate is a KD:

Charmaine Hunt is Kappa Delta from Western Kentucky.

Yay! Now I have someone to cheer for. At least until I see what their personalities are like.

PS- how do you find stuff like this out?

valkyrie 03-02-2006 12:27 PM

I dig the Russian dude.

kdonline 03-02-2006 03:03 PM

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Originally posted by KDAngel
PS- how do you find stuff like this out?


I get it emailed to me from other KDs....because I am "Annie Online!"

Sister Havana 03-07-2006 11:49 AM

What did everyone think of yesterday's episode?

I remember when Ivanka was a little teeny kid. Seeing her on this episode just made me feel old. :)

Rudey 03-07-2006 12:16 PM

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Originally posted by Sister Havana
What did everyone think of yesterday's episode?

I remember when Ivanka was a little teeny kid. Seeing her on this episode just made me feel old. :)

I went to the movies once with Ivanka.

-Rudey
--OK I sat 7 rows behind her but still it was a date in my book.

ASUADPi 03-07-2006 04:46 PM

Personally I was excited to see Bill. Yeah, I'm a dork and I will admit that I think he's kind of cute. LOL.

I thought Lee was a horrible PM. He really should have waited a while to be one.

I think Brent is annoying. His ideas are insane. Trump is right, he won't last long.

I really like Allie.




Any picks on who might be the next apprentice?



At this point the only one I can really pick out is Allie, whether she becomes the next apprentice or not, I think she will definately make it far in the competition. None of the guys have really stood out yet. IMPO.

kddani 03-07-2006 04:49 PM

Ivanka has to have the most boring personality and is not engaging at all. I remember when she would do commentary on the Miss Teen USA pageant... UGH! Zzzzz. It's like she's on downers constantly.

She's a pretty girl, but lifeless.

I'm not sure what I think about this season. I've never watched any of the seasons religiously, but I tuned in last night to see the 2 KDs and because nothing else decent is on Monday night.

Tickled Pink 2 03-07-2006 05:12 PM

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Originally posted by ASUADPi

I think Brent is annoying. His ideas are insane. Trump is right, he won't last long.
...
Any picks on who might be the next apprentice?...


They have to weed down a bit before I can have any favorites. Brent strikes me as someone who because he's not usually taken seriously (unfortunately I think it's appearance related), he goes over the top to prove himself and be the center of attention. He won't last long. Buuuuuuut - at the same time - I really did not like how they tried to make him the scapegoat for why they failed. I'm glad Trump fired who he did.

CutiePie2000 03-07-2006 07:54 PM

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Originally posted by valkyrie
I dig the Russian dude.
Me too. I think Lenny's awesome and will go far. He's a no bull-isht kind of guy with street smarts.

I also think blonde Allie (one of the first PMs) will go far.

That's it so far for my "predictions" as to who will be the next apprentice.

KDAngel 03-08-2006 02:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by valkyrie
I dig the Russian dude.
Me too!

Quote:

Originally posted by kddani
Ivanka has to have the most boring personality and is not engaging at all. I remember when she would do commentary on the Miss Teen USA pageant... UGH! Zzzzz. It's like she's on downers constantly.

She's a pretty girl, but lifeless.

I actually liked her. I mean she wasn't the coolest thing ever, but it's the 1st time I've ever heard her even speak before and she was much more articulate than I had expected and she was very polite about things. I liked her, and kinda hope to see more of her in the future.

MysticCat 03-08-2006 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by kddani
Ivanka has to have the most boring personality and is not engaging at all. I remember when she would do commentary on the Miss Teen USA pageant... UGH! Zzzzz. It's like she's on downers constantly.

She's a pretty girl, but lifeless.

I don't know. Compared to Alexis Stewart, Ivanka seemed to be brimful of personality.

MysticCat 03-08-2006 10:41 AM

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Originally posted by ariesrising
I also really like the African American woman who said she blamed the loss on Pepi and not Brent. She saw that blonde chick was lying about being threatened and didn't buy into it like everyone else did. She seems to be a really solid person, I'm hoping she's around for a long time.
She's also the one who woke the team up and tried to get them moving. She and Allie are among the most impressive so far.

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I also love Lenny (the Russian), he's too funny.
I don't see him lasting too long. His attitude will hurt him in the long run -- he's not much a team player, and his "not for long" comment in front of Trump last week was not a good move. He was right about Lee's leadership (or lack thereof), but he didn't handle it well, I don't think.

I just hope that before he goes, someone can get him to say "moose and squirrel" in a sentence. "Natasha," "Fearless Leader" or "Mr. Big" will be acceptable as well.

kdonline 03-08-2006 09:07 PM

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Originally posted by MysticCat81
I just hope that before he goes, someone can get him to say "moose and squirrel" in a sentence. "Natasha," "Fearless Leader" or "Mr. Big" will be acceptable as well.
ROFL!!!!!

Sister Havana 03-09-2006 05:21 PM

There's another Greek...Pepi Diaz, who was fired this week, is a Sigma Phi Epsilon (per his website).

DeeGeePrincess 03-09-2006 08:36 PM

was Lee Greek?

love:
Lenny - you cant *phunk with the Russians!

Lee - gotta root for the youngins' simply b/c people always think they have too little experice...loved Andy!! too bad he didnt make final 2



glad stacey left...what a tool! she made herself look like an idiot. he threatened me with his finger! geez. you're lame. im glad you're gone!

MysticCat 03-14-2006 10:17 AM

Anyone watch last night (3-13)?

Lenny is a jerk who needs to go. I would have fired him and Theresa last night.

valkyrie 03-14-2006 12:43 PM

Lenny is the most awesome candidate ever. He freaking rocks. Theresa was a trainwreck and I was so glad to see her go. Andrea was an awesome PM.

MysticCat 03-14-2006 02:15 PM

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Originally posted by valkyrie
Lenny is the most awesome candidate ever. He freaking rocks.
You've got to be kidding?! Anybody who takes a "that's not my problem" attitude when working on a team project, while at the same time complaining "I'm the only one doing any work," is worthless as far as I'm concerned. I wouldn't want him working for me.

And anybody who would respond to 2 other teammates' decision to attend to religious obligations with obscenities and threats that they'll be blamed if the team loses the task, and then actually brings that up in the boardroom after already having been told by Trump "that's life, deal with it," is not only a jerk but a really stupid jerk. Seems to me, if nothing else, the fact that Trump noted that George was also at synagogue would have been enough to convince Lenny he needed to get over himself and let it go.

Theresa did deserve to be fired -- both for being a lousy leader and for not bringing Charmaine (and maybe Bryce) into the boardroom. But I have no respect for Lenny.

kdonline 03-14-2006 02:33 PM

Lenny & Brent both make for good television. I had said during episode one, that they are going to last longer than anyone thinks.

IMO, Trump realizes that ratings for The Apprentice are going down (Martha's fault? I dont think so!), and he will keep whatever colorful characters he has, for as long as he can.

MysticCat 03-14-2006 02:46 PM

I think you're right, Annie.

KDAngel 03-15-2006 01:53 AM

I'm glad Theresa got the boot. By no means do I find the others flawless, but she was in charge of them and did a poor job IMO.

ASUADPi 03-15-2006 11:23 AM

I agree, Theresa did a poor job leading.

Yes, Lenny's attitude sucked but due to editing Theresa could have royally screwed up, not "assigned" the task of finding an electrician to Lenny and then when it came down to it needed someone to blame.

I also thought it was annoying for her to blame Tarek for the disaster of their project. He told her they needed a theme and she blew him off, when did that become his fault? As a non project manager how long should he have pushed? I mean seriously, she sucked as a PM.

Next week, Brent goes off the deep end. LOL.

valkyrie 03-15-2006 12:42 PM

I'm not kidding. Lenny rocks.

I suspect that Theresa, due to her vast incompetence (maybe the silicone has started migrating to her pea-sized brain -- even I couldn't pay attention to her because her boobs were so distracting), she never told him to do anything about electricity. Then all of a sudden Harpy 1 and Harpy 2 (that Bryce dude -- freak on wheels) are ALL OVER HIM yelling and screaming and damn, I would've reacted the same way he did. They were beyond ridiculous. Lenny was working his butt off the whole time and they jump on him for not doing something he probably wasn't told to do, and they didn't even give him the chance to do it because Harpy 2 was so busy SAVING HIS ASS. Yikes.

And you know what? I think he was right to call those guys out for missing the whole task. I'm not saying it was wrong of them to take time off because of their religious obligations, but the consequence of doing that was screwing their team. Just because it's religion doesn't mean people aren't going to be pissed off and disadvantaged. That's life. I'd bet money that if a Buddhist or Jain vegetarian appeared on the show and declined to participate in a Burger King task, they'd be bitched out by someone -- and rightly so. I also think that there's a difference between someone who is already established (George) taking time off and someone who is participating in this contest/job interview taking time off.

Lenny works hard and is practical. His bluntness is refreshing, but I'm sure some of the fragile flowers in the business world would have a hard time with him -- he won't win, but he's awesome.

MysticCat 03-15-2006 03:00 PM

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Originally posted by valkyrie
Lenny works hard and is practical. His bluntness is refreshing, but I'm sure some of the fragile flowers in the business world would have a hard time with him -- he won't win, but he's awesome.
I'll agree that he works hard and can be practical (when it suits him). But he has pretty much zero skill in working with others, and he doesn't seem to recognize when he's showing backbone and when he's shooting himself in the foot.

I agree that Theresa the Incompetent probably failed to nail down the electricity responsibility, and I also agree that Bryce needed to chill in a major way. But Lenny's attitude not only showed a complete lack of appreciation for his team's interests (something that usually doesn't play well in the boardroom), it showed a complete lack of appreciation for his own self-interest. If something like that happens, someone who actually wants to come off looking good -- someone who is seeing the goal at the end of the "interview" -- would as calmly as possible explain to Theresa that she failed to inform him that she was expecting him to take care of that problem, and then he should have taken care of it. Then he can say "even when dealing with Theresa the Incompetent, I make sure the work gets done." Walking away and declaring "that's not my problem" is not the way to impress a future employer.

I'll give him a little slack for raising objection to the Rosh Hashana issue once, but only once. I'll also assume he wasn't paying attention in earlier seasons, such as when Jen C. pretty much got fired for her attitude, including religious insensitivity, or when Trump encouraged Randall to miss a task to go his grandmother's funeral. (Yes, I know the funeral's a once in a lifetime matter rather than a once a year matter, but it still telegraphed that Trump accepts that some obligations trump work sometimes.) Shoot, last season, he even seemed to be willing to cut worthless Toral some slack if it hadn't been clear that she was just making excuses -- I think what he said was that he believed it was important to respect other people's religious beliefs. But even if he wasn't paying attention then, he should have paid attention when Trump said "that's life, deal with it." It's not in his best interest to give Trump an opportunity to tell him that again, yet that's what he did. He should have let it go. He shouldn't have let his own disagreement with the situation get in the way of completing the task or get in the way of his goal of winning a job by showing his potential employer he couldn't deal with it and move on.

I guess I can see your point, but I think his awesomeness is mainly in his ego. An awesome eqo is a good trait if you want the kind of job he wants, but only if it's balanced with awesome common sense and awesome perspective -- two things he seems to have at least some of when it comes to the tasks but not when it comes to his own self-interest or to the ultimate goal. That's why I think he's more of a rock that drags everyone down.

valkyrie 03-15-2006 03:34 PM

All valid points. I have a soft spot for blunt-ass funny people.

KDAngel 03-15-2006 04:52 PM

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Originally posted by valkyrie
All valid points. I have a soft spot for blunt-ass funny people.
haha, me too!

ASUADPi 03-21-2006 12:26 AM

I have to say I'm very glad that Brent was fired.

His attitude really sucked tonight on the show. Yes, their strategy of not having him to anything of importance was kind of lame (and might have backfired on them) but he is/was impossible. I couldn't believe that he was accusing Tammy of not letting him be the spokesperson because he is fat? I mean, I can't quote her, but I don't recall her at any point saying "your fat, you can't do this". I do recall her saying that he wanted to go in the direction of weight loss and that isn't the direction they were going in. Makes sense to me.

If Brent hadn't opened his mouth and completely attacked Tammy the way he did, I don't think he would have been fired. I think it would have been Andrea (for the graphics) or Sean (for being longwinded). But he opened his mouth and the team "fought back".

I definately agree with what Trump said, that their team will probably run much smoother now that Brent is gone.



I can really see Allie being one of the final two.

KDAngel 03-21-2006 02:00 AM

My DVR clearly failed me tonight, but I'll catch it on CNBC this week.

Quote:

Originally posted by ASUADPi
I can really see Allie being one of the final two.
But I'm glad to see a fellow KD doing well in the eyes of the viewers! I hope she DOES make it to the finals!! :D

kddani 03-21-2006 08:20 AM

I was starting to think Brent was a Trump mole or something... I can't understand how someone can be THAT outrageous. The idiot couldn't even comb his hair and try to present himself well

kddani 03-21-2006 01:13 PM

http://newyorkmetro.com/nymetro/news...eatures/10610/

A great article on the Trump children

madmax 03-21-2006 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by kddani
I was starting to think Brent was a Trump mole or something... I can't understand how someone can be THAT outrageous. The idiot couldn't even comb his hair and try to present himself well

I think Brent had a rug. Maybe that is why Trump kept him around.

Sister Havana 03-27-2006 11:45 PM

That was an awesome reward today!

KDAngel 03-28-2006 12:15 AM

I missed the middle part of the episode- what was it?


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