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PhoenixAzul 01-31-2006 05:17 PM

Post your tartan
 
Well, my mom's family is considered "Ulster Scot" (scotch irish). She's a mix of Cumming (her dad) and Stewart (her mom). Since I'm living in Ulster (Northern Ireland), about an hour from Scotland, I'm planning on spending half-term (spring break) in Scotland doing a wee bit of backpacking. I thought a great gift to bring back would be some tartan of both clans for my mom and my grandfather. I would love for my pop to wear a kilt to my wedding but I doubt it will happen.

So, if you are Scotch or Ulster Scot, post your family tartan!

Cumming
(cumming hunting ancient)
http://clan.com/clan_images/tartans/hedga_mw838.jpg

Stewart
(stewart hunting)
http://clan.com/clan_images/tartans/ibuch_510.jpg

adpiucf 01-31-2006 05:22 PM

I couldn't resist...



http://www.3m.com/us/home_leisure/sc...et_protect.gif


http://www.3m.com/brands/scotch/scot...h_sm_magic.gif

;)

Lady Pi Phi 01-31-2006 05:56 PM

This is my Tartan

http://clan.com/tartanfinder.html?se...ch:id=c6xuzrHD

bcdphie 01-31-2006 06:16 PM

MacKinnon (of Skye) - my family clan

Dress
http://www.scotlandonline.com/herita...ns/wr1167r.gif

Hunting
http://www.scotlandonline.com/herita...ans/wr917r.gif

Blackstock - married name

Dress
http://www.scotlandonline.com/herita...ns/wr1881r.gif

Hunting
http://www.scotlandonline.com/herita...ns/wr1120r.gif

alum 01-31-2006 11:00 PM

I have no tartans for my family however.....

Behold the Carnegie tartan, the official fabric of Carnegie Mellon University! We use the Carnegie Ancient (top one). Our school teams are called the Tartans and our school crest is the stylized thistle (similar to the one in the link below) superimposed over a Carnegie tartan circle.

http://clan.com/tartanfinder.html?se...%27Carnegie%27

MysticCat 02-01-2006 11:10 AM

Re: Post your tartan
 
Quote:

Originally posted by PhoenixAzul
So, if you are Scotch or Ulster Scot, post your family tartan!
Many thanks for using Ulster Scots rather than Scotch-Irish, but, please, Scots or Scottish, not Scotch. Scotch is something you drink (whiskey) or eat (Scotch eggs). People are Scots or Scottish.

McLeod of Harris:
http://www.your-uk.com/images/clans/200/macleod.jpg

bcdphie 02-01-2006 01:48 PM

My husband's family is from Northern Ireland, but are of Scottish decent. The only problem is, I find most people have no clue what I am talking about why I say Ulster, and it is such a mouthfull to say Northern Irish. And it gets more confusing to say they are Irish, but not Republican Irish.

I like that term, Ulster-Scot.

MysticCat 02-01-2006 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bcdphie
And it gets more confusing to say they are Irish, but not Republican Irish.
Indeed, not Irish at all. They are descendants of Scots who settled in Ulster, but the Scots and the Irish (and the English) all kept pretty much to themselves in northern Ireland.

honeychile 02-01-2006 03:02 PM

My main tartan is the Hunter clan, and this is the modern tartan:

http://scotlandshop.net/images/swatc...ter-modern.jpg

We are a sept under the Royal Stewart Clan:

Ancient Stewart:
http://clan.com/clan_images/tartans/...ga_mws2394.jpg

Modern Stewart:
http://clan.com/clan_images/tartans/...ochc_str_m.jpg

So those are the major tartans I can wear (legitimately).

BetteDavisEyes 02-01-2006 04:32 PM

My husband's mom side of the family hail from Scotland so he's half Scot. I have seen their family tartan as they are Clan Montgomery but have no picture to share. I did go to his cousins wedding where all the men wore their kilts & it was a lot of fun! :)

lifesaver 02-01-2006 04:42 PM

I am half ulster-scots.

I have never researched the family tartan. I am sure its there. The family was very proud of being scottish.

There is also a Texas Tartan. The offical Tartan of the state of Texas, and is called "Bluebonnet"

http://www.district-tartans.com/texas.jpg

JenMarie 02-01-2006 05:08 PM

MacGregor:
http://clan.com/tartanfinder.html?se...27MacGregor%27

http://clan.com/clan_images/tartans/lochc_mg_a.jpg

Modern

http://clan.com/clan_images/tartans/lochc_mg_a.jpg

Ancient

bcdphie 02-01-2006 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lifesaver
There is also a Texas Tartan. The offical Tartan of the state of Texas, and is called "Bluebonnet"
We have the same thing here, North of the 49th - Canada has an official tartan, as does each Province and Territory (except Nunavat).

http://www.pch.gc.ca/progs/cpsc-ccsp/images/tartans.jpg

http://www.pch.gc.ca/progs/cpsc-ccsp...tan_legend.gif

1.Maple leaf *
2. Newfoundland *
3. Prince Edward Island
4. Nova Scotia
5. New Brunswick
6. Quebec *
7. Ontario
8. Manitoba
9. Saskatchewan
10. Alberta
11.British Columbia
12. Northwest Territories
13. Yukon *

* not official tartans


British Columbia

The province's tartan was designed by Earl K. Ward of Victoria and officially approved by the British Columbia Centennial Committee for the 1966-67 Centenaries. Represented in the design are the blue of the Pacific Ocean, the green of the forests, the red of the maple leaf, the white of the dogwood floral emblem, and the gold of the crown and sun in the provincial arms.

aephi alum 02-01-2006 08:30 PM

Re: Re: Post your tartan
 
Quote:

Originally posted by MysticCat81
McLeod of Harris:
http://www.your-uk.com/images/clans/200/macleod.jpg

Me too! :D Only it's MacLeod ;)

honeychile 02-01-2006 10:21 PM

Some bits and pieces:

-I went to a wedding this summer with the groom and the bagpiper in kilts. The women in front of us were whispering how disgusting it was that the tartans didn't match! I wanted to smack the one particularly obnoxious one, and explain that one ONLY wears one's own tartan!! And at about $600 a kilt, there's good sense to that!

-One of my favorite professors wrote his name on the blackboard on the first day of class: Macleod. He then said, "Whomever can first tell me how to pronounce my name correctly will have their grade raised one letter up." Lots of hands went up, but I won: Mack-Cloud. Thank you, fellow Scotsmen!!

-The Scottish crests and tartans are of the very few nationalities which legitimately allows married women to keep their own tartan & crest. One can wear 5-6 tartans at the same time, if you have that many Scottish lineages. You can see that mix in both Rob Roy and Braveheart.

-The first time I went to a Clan Gathering, my mother & I were given pins which were our Clan insignia - emphasis that they were NOT our crests, but our Clan insignia. Our crest is on a dagger, about 4-5" long, and no, I cannot wear it on a plane! But the first time I wore it to church, my pastor (whose family is also Southern) said, "That's an interesting pin - what is it?" I proudly said, "That's my Clan insignia!" He looked hard at me and exclaimed, "You're in the Klan?!" We still laugh about that!

-Women do not wear kilts, men do. Women wear a badge of the tartan, or a sash. This is a good thing for women, as a well made kilt costs upward of $600!!

-If you'd like to see your tartan, just put "(Your Scots Surname)* tartan" in a search engine, and chances are, you'll find it! I only know about the sept (branch) and clan because of genealogy.

-People are not Scottish, they are Scots. Items they own are Scottish.

DolphinChicaDDD 02-01-2006 10:30 PM

I can't find my tartan online! :( I've seen that look familar but none like the one hanging in my grandfather's house.

aephi alum 02-01-2006 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by honeychile
-Women do not wear kilts, men do. Women wear a badge of the tartan, or a sash. This is a good thing for women, as a well made kilt costs upward of $600!!
And that's before you start on the accessories!

Women can wear kilt skirts. They are made from the same material as kilts, and look something not quite unlike a kilt, but they are cut for a woman's body, use less material, and are generally less expensive (but can still run around $400). But I believe the kilt skirt is a relatively new idea.

Side note: With certain exceptions, when a man wears a kilt, he does not wear underwear.

honeychile 02-02-2006 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by aephi alum


Side note: With certain exceptions, when a man wears a kilt, he does not wear underwear.

Yeah, baby!

(I was kinda chicken to post that!)

RACooper 02-02-2006 12:57 AM

Well... my tartan is a little interesting:

Cooper/Couper - Loyalist/Protestant:
http://www.scotlandonline.com/herita...tans/wr74r.gif
Ancient is the same with some orange/yellow added in the thinner verticle bands between the white verticle lines.

Made by members that joined the Orange Order, in order to have a 'Protestant' kilt, instead of the one associated with the Couper's that fought for the Stewart's, and on the side of the Catholic Church during the Bishop's War.

But enough about them, onto the 'proper' tartans that I wear ;)

Cooper/Couper - Catholic/Jacobite 'Modern'
http://www.lindaclifford.com/Images/Cooper.jpg

Cooper/Couper - Catholic/Jacobute 'Ancient'
http://www.cadadh.co.uk/images-tartan/cooper_a.jpg

As you can see even the tartans in my family tell a little story - or at least show who sided with who during '45.

honeychile 02-02-2006 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RACooper
Well... my tartan is a little interesting:

Cooper/Couper - Loyalist/Protestant:
http://www.scotlandonline.com/herita...tans/wr74r.gif
Ancient is the same with some orange/yellow added in the thinner verticle bands between the white verticle lines.

Made by members that joined the Orange Order, in order to have a 'Protestant' kilt, instead of the one associated with the Couper's that fought for the Stewart's, and on the side of the Catholic Church during the Bishop's War.

But enough about them, onto the 'proper' tartans that I wear ;)

Cooper/Couper - Catholic/Jacobite 'Modern'
http://www.lindaclifford.com/Images/Cooper.jpg

Cooper/Couper - Catholic/Jacobute 'Ancient'
http://www.cadadh.co.uk/images-tartan/cooper_a.jpg

As you can see even the tartans in my family tell a little story - or at least show who sided with who during '45.

RACooper, they are beautiful!!! Don't get me wrong, I love mine, but wow!!

aephialum, I know that some women do wear kilts, but as you noted, it's not historically correct. The Clan Gatherings I've been to get a little testy about them, with the exception of a kilt in which to dance. I'd [i]love/i] to be able to afford a proper kitting out!

Beryana 02-02-2006 02:25 AM

Okay, so I still have to do some more research on the lineage aspect of it (Honeychile, if you want to help with that one I'd be happy to accept! ;) ), but my 4xGreat-grandmother's maiden name is Sinclair so I am only assuming someone from that line is from Scotland! If so, here is a link to the tartans (can't figure out how to do the picture thing!) Sinclair tartans

Sarah

preciousjeni 02-02-2006 09:26 AM

Where are y'all finding these? If you could find the ones for Kirkpatrick...that's me!

MysticCat 02-02-2006 10:06 AM

Re: Re: Re: Post your tartan
 
Quote:

Originally posted by aephi alum
Me too! :D Only it's MacLeod ;)
True that MacLeod is the predominant spelling (and the one used by the MacLeod of MacLeod). Variants are McLeod and Macleod, among others. "Mac" is usually preferred in Scotland, although technically "Mac" and "Mc" are interchangeable. I heard one time that "Mac" is more common among Highland Scots and "Mc" is more common among Lowland and Ulster-Scots, but that may be urban legend.

We're a sept of Clan MacLeod, not MacLeods proper.
Quote:

Originally posted by honeychile
The first time I went to a Clan Gathering, my mother & I were given pins which were our Clan insignia - emphasis that they were NOT our crests, but our Clan insignia.
Well of course not, since only the Chief of a clan may wear the crest. Everyone else wears a badge, the crest surrounded by a belt with the clan motto on it. This demonstrates loyalty to the Chief.

The Badge of Clan MacLeod:
http://www.scotsconnection.com/uploa..._large/848.jpg

Optimist Prime 02-02-2006 10:12 AM

http://www.cadadh.co.uk/images-tartan/campbell_a.jpg

Clan Campbell, which is the one I identify with.

alum 02-02-2006 10:13 AM

Is it time to eat haggis? Yummy!

MysticCat 02-02-2006 10:17 AM

I love haggis -- really, I do. A little Scotch to wash it down, and I'm there.

MysticCat 02-02-2006 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by preciousjeni
Where are y'all finding these? If you could find the ones for Kirkpatrick...that's me!
From what I can track down, Kirkpatrick is a sept of Clan Colquhoun.

The tartan of Clan Colquhoun:
http://www.loch-lomond.net/images/colquhountartan.gif

ETA: A sept is a family that has been absorbed into or come under the protection of a clan and, being loyal to the chief of that clan, is entitled to wear the tartan, badge, etc., of that clan.

preciousjeni 02-02-2006 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MysticCat81
From what I can track down, Kirkpatrick is a sept of Clan Colquhoun.

The tartan of Clan Colquhoun:
http://www.loch-lomond.net/images/colquhountartan.gif

Thanks! :D

honeychile 02-02-2006 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Beryana
Okay, so I still have to do some more research on the lineage aspect of it (Honeychile, if you want to help with that one I'd be happy to accept! ;) ), but my 4xGreat-grandmother's maiden name is Sinclair so I am only assuming someone from that line is from Scotland! If so, here is a link to the tartans (can't figure out how to do the picture thing!) Sinclair tartans

Sarah

*perks up*

Sinclair?? From where? What first names? Also, you can look up St. Clair or Sinkler.

Modern Sinclair Dress Tartan
http://www.clansinclairusa.org/images/SinclairRed.jpg

Sinclair Modern Hunting Green
http://www.clansinclairusa.org/images/SinclairGrHtg.jpg

Beryana 02-02-2006 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by honeychile
*perks up*

Sinclair?? From where? What first names? Also, you can look up St. Clair or Sinkler.

What info I have is Adeline Sinclair b 29 Dec 1812 in Mount Holly, VT (married Presby Mudge in 1833 in Plymouth, VT). She is the daughter of Daniel Sinclair b about 1786 and Charlotte Hubbard b 11 Aug 1738 in Chesterfield, NH d 9 Feb 1848 (married 9 Mar 1812 in New Hampshire).

I haven't checked other spellings yet - but will be (been working on another line but that one is just causing headaches right now!)

Sarah

BSP_Nicole 02-02-2006 02:59 PM

Okay, I've got the picts saved, but I don't know how to post them... Can someone help me?

honeychile 02-02-2006 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BSP_Nicole
Okay, I've got the picts saved, but I don't know how to post them... Can someone help me?
Quick tutorial:

-Find the photo you want.
-RIGHT click on the photo, and a menu should pop up.
-Click on Properties.
-Scroll down to where it says "Address". It should end in .jpg or .bmp
-Copy it by hitting both Ctrl & c at the same time.
-Go to where you want to post the picture.
-Type in [img], then type both Ctrl & v at the same time (this should paste the address in that spot), then type [/img].
-You can check to make sure you have it by Previewing prior to posting, but it should work!

MysticCat 02-02-2006 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BSP_Nicole
Okay, I've got the picts saved
I can't let this pass. "Picts" in a thread about things Scottish. :D

aephi alum 02-02-2006 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MysticCat81
I love haggis -- really, I do. A little Scotch to wash it down, and I'm there.
Haggis = barf. I may be part Scottish but I just can't get my head around the idea of eating what's in haggis.

Scotch = pass the bottle! ;)

honeychile 02-02-2006 09:28 PM

Mystic Cat - I was going to comment, but I thought it was meant as a double entrendre. If it is, it's a good one!

aephialum - ditto. I have some good Scottish friends, who decided that I really needed to enjoy haggis. I was really embarrassed when I puked over the smell!!

RACooper 02-02-2006 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by honeychile
aephialum - ditto. I have some good Scottish friends, who decided that I really needed to enjoy haggis. I was really embarrassed when I puked over the smell!!
Don't worry about it... it's a common joke that the haggis was based on a scotch-fueled drunken dare :p

Unfortunately I managed to miss Robbie Burns this year ~ but thankfully the Celtic Studies department is hosting a single malt workshop/taste-testing in a couple of weeks... so I'll make up for it :D

bcdphie 02-03-2006 12:25 PM

I had my annual dose of haggis at the usual Burns Dinner I attend. I don't mind it at all; and my husband and brother love the stuff. The only problem with the one this year, however, there wasn't enough gravy to take away the severe dryness...

It really isn't that bad. If you like stuffing, you'll like Haggis.

In Canada you can't serve "real" haggis, i.e. you aren't allowed to prepare and serve it in a sheep's stomach. Not sure if it's the same in the US.

Burns Night @ VRC

kstar 02-03-2006 12:56 PM

Here

There is a detailed explanation of the various shaw tartans. There is also a hunting tartan that does not appear on that page.

BSP_Nicole 02-03-2006 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by honeychile
Mystic Cat - I was going to comment, but I thought it was meant as a double entrendre. If it is, it's a good one!

Nope, sorry, I just meant pictures... I have no idea what you two are talking about otherwise...

BSP_Nicole 02-03-2006 03:28 PM

Ok, I personally have no Scottish blood, but my husband's family does:


MacArthur:

http://www.lindaclifford.com/Images/MacArthurOC.jpg


Morrison:

http://www.lindaclifford.com/Images/Morrison.jpg



When we lived in WV, my hubby was in the West Virginia Highlanders. Their tartan was the MacLeod of Lewis Dress tartan (which I personally think is beautiful!).

http://www.lindaclifford.com/Images/MacLeodDr.jpg

He bought a Morrison clan kilt pin to wear:

http://www.houseoftartan.co.uk/scott..._img/kp117.jpg


P.S.: Thanks Honeychile for the picture posting help!


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