Mayor Nagy
 

Sorry, but I have tried to find the Mayor of New Olreans Nagy (?) Statement of Making it a Chocolate City. He has since refuted it, but is that Racist or is it just Me?

I think I remember someone making a funny statement about giving Candy to people coming back. Chocolat Candy like Hereshy Kisses as it were.:(

If this Moron is not Bigoted and Racist, then who is?

New Orleans is and was not all Black, there was a Mix of Peoples.

It still grates me to see this still in the New Media but He said it and it was taped. Oh, I think He mentioned that God Will Protect the Blacks who Re-Populate N O.

Elections are mandated by law to come up soon.

If He was such a Sweet Person in a Corrupte City, then, He should worry about His job.

It's Ray Nagin.....

I'll leave it to everyone else to comment.

He's the juicy nut in the middle of the chocolate.

PS: He's gotten the election postponed. Wonder why?

I don't know why he would even fix his face to say something like that. He needs to step down. He is incompetent anyway.

He follows in a long line of "interesting" (colorful?) New Orleans/Louisiana politicans.

He probably fits right in.

You're telling the truth on this one.

DC, isn't all black and as far as I can remember it's always been called Chocolate City for obvious reasons such as New Orleans. Now was it appropriate to use slang while addressing the nation, maybe not, but I don't think he meant it to be offensive.

Probably not, but still a poor choice of words under the circumstances.

Under what circumstances? That New Orleans is predomaintely African American and those that lost everything there were predomaintely African American? I don't think he was saying no other races allowed but he was speaking to the citizens of his city that play a major part in keeping the city alive.

Given the makeup of the audience who heard it.

Even he says it was a poor choice in retrospect.

Those that lost everything there include whites which died at a proportionally higher rate.

-Rudey

I'm pretty sure I didn't make the statement that African Americans in New Orleans were the only Katrina victims.
Also According to LA Homeland Security all of the identies of the victims haven't been released to provide and accurate numbers.
67% of African Americans and other people of color were affected by Katrina in N.O.; 28% of the populationlived below the poverty line 84% of whom are African American. African American's are disproportionatley poor in N.O. But again my point is that is wasn't that surprising that N.O. was referred to as Chocolate City or even DC, just as California is known for its blondes.

"Statistics released by the Louisiana Department of Health and Hospitals suggest that fewer than half of the victims of Hurricane Katrina were black, and that whites died at the highest rate of all races in New Orleans. Overall for the state, 658 bodies have been identified. An additional 247 victims have not been identified."

That was the most recent count I had seen in December. For a city that is so "Chocolate", it's strange that the "White-Chocolate" died at a higher rate. And it's also even more strange that people are referred to as "Chocolate" outside of strip clubs.

-Rudey

Actually LA Homeland Security says that according to the recent counts of people IDENTIFIED there were more Whites that died but once the others were identified the numbers could change. Also the fact that more whites possibly died as opposed to African Americans doesn't discount that New Orleans populations is 67% people of color. Which means more people of color were affected by Katrina in deaths and over all total loss.
Also I'm not saying that anyone that lost their love ones or lost their livelyhood and personal belongings shouldn't be treated the same no matter what color. But the fact remains people do refer to N.O., DC and some other predomiantely African American areas are Chocolate City and this has been happening for years and it's not discounting another.

Let's turn that around have have a white mayor say something about returing a city to predominatly white.

I wonder how far that would fly, and how the media would have a field day with that.

Actually, to be honest, I dont give a Damn about %s of Black and Whites who died, they are PEOPLE Who Died!:mad:

This was a total Cluster Screw-Up and everyone from Ground Zero havfe been trying to cover thier asses!

Then This Moron who is Mayor and a figure head makes comments like this! He is a Major Twit, and trys to recant what He said:mad:

DUDE, You said it on Nation Wide Media and Looked like a Total Ass!

I dont know whether a White Mayor would do anybetter because of the Corruptness of the State and Cities from outside influence say The Big M word.

But, He is stupid even though He looks good!:mad:

A disastor such as this does not hold color does it! It affects everyone who lived there no matter what color!

Happens everyday in America.

Cop out.

I agree with that sentiment. Since businesses in the GNO area have come back, WE ALL realize how valuable those less fortunate (poor) Af Ams were to the city. They had jobs that kept the area going. Those jobs were hotel housekeepers, cooks, waiters, waitresses, etc. Most restaurants don't have the normal business hours they had Pre-Katrina. If a restaurant is open 8hrs a day....THAT'S DAYUM GOOD! Some of the "upscale" restaurants aren't even open during lunch.

Who would have thought that Burger King and McDonald's (just to name 2 businesses) would offer $6500 signing bonuses and paying at least $8/hour (for one year of service)? They are desperate for employees!!!!

I don't know what they are going to do for Mardi Gras. It's going to be madness....

I'm not surprised by anything that is said.

Are you serious about the bonuses at Mickey D's?

-Rudey

I think Mayor Nagin was inexcusably rude with his remarks. The only possible explanation is that, deep down inside, he was thinking, "There is no possible way that I want to be Mayor of this city for another term!" and did his best to insure it.

YES!

ETA: They are desperate for workers! I pass many restaurants EVERYDAY that still are NOT open for business. I never thought I'd see it! IT'S. REAL!

The Gulf Coast Region has a LONNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGG way to go! You all just do not realize what's NOT happening! It's sad!

I'm from Detroit which is about 90% black and have never heard of chocolate city untill Nagy's comment on MLK day. Is this a southern thing?

No, it's not! :D

Many AF Ams all over the country understand Chocolate City. There was a record label named Chocolate City. Many funkateers George Clinton, etc have used the term in their lyrics.

I'm white as can be and I've heard the term Chocolate City before. (and understood it) :)

Personally, I thought he just meant that he doesn't want the area to be so gentrified with rebuilding to the point that blacks cannot afford to live there. Then again, I may be extrapolating some of the things happening closer to home onto his comment.

Big Daddy Kane also made a song called Chocolate City, on 1993's Look's Like A Job For.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/katrina_d...NlYwMlJVRPUCUl
NO could lose 80% of Af Ams Displaced...

...
The study used maps from the Federal Emergency Management Agency that detailed flood and wind damage and compared them to data from the 2000 U.S. Census to determine who and what areas were affected.

It found the storm-damaged areas had been 75 percent black, compared to 46 percent black in undamaged areas of the city. It also found that 29 percent of the households in damaged areas lived below the poverty line, compared with 24 percent of households in undamaged areas.

More than half of those who lived in the city's damaged neighborhoods were renters, the analysis found.

"The odds of living in a damaged area were clearly much greater for blacks, renters and poor people," the study said. "In these respects the most vulnerable residents turned out also to be at greatest risk."

Elliott Stonecipher, a demographer and political analyst based in Shreveport, La., said the analysis gets to the heart of the debate over how to rebuild New Orleans. Racial tensions have been high with some worried that those in charge of the rebuilding will push black residents out of the city.

"For this storm to suddenly rip that away from them, that feeling is at the heart of this growing racial impasse," Stonecipher said.

You get what you pay for.

Cheap rent = cheap buildings.

I don't really see anything brilliant about that.\

EDIT

The poor are the most vulnerable. Ok.

If you take a person that has money/wealth and rip that away from them...who would be more likely to recover first?

The poor person who stays poor, or the rich person that worked their ass off once to make their money and probably more likely to do it again?

Posted by 33girl:

I think he could have said it the way you just did if that was what he really meant. As a public figure and the mayor of a city that is represented by all types of people, despite the disproportionate numbers of black americans, he should never have said that. I would feel the same way if a white politician made comments like that. If you are the mayor, you MUST remain objective and make statements and actions that represent your entire city. I could see how other people would feel really isolated. Especially if the other people were supporters of Nagen. Its the way I feel about Bush too, to draw a comparison. He continuously speaks to audiences that have 1 or 2 black people in the audience; small towns all over the country or in places that only have a select type of people. That does not represent the country that he is supposed to be charged with leading and representing and that bothers me too. I don't like either scenario and as I said before he insulted a lot of people and he should not only apologize but do the responsible thing and not run again or even step down. Hell, its what a lot of black people would call for if the "colors" had been reversed.

Posted by coramoor:

You're ignorant.

When the Washington Post detailed Nagin's speech including the infamous Chocolate Ciy reference, the aricle went into detail regarding Washington DC. The District historically has also had a high AA population. The Post columnist wrote that the CC expression dates only back to the 1960s when the CR movement was heating up.

Good one. Very well thought out.

Obviously slightly MORE than your post was.

So Your tet de tet helps what was said by this person?:rolleyes:

In talking with a Very Good Friend who is a KAPsi about this, He could not beleive what was said.:(

I am trying to get Him on GC to see some of the things that are discussed!:)

All public figures in NO are idiots...
 

Chocolate or not, they were all idiots after the Katrina biatch slap... And yeah, she biatch slapped that area...

Guess I've been watching too many pimpin' shows to be Comcastic... :rolleyes:

At any rate, I took Mayor Willy Wonka Nagan's Chocolate Factory comment to mean that he was upset about the undocumented workers who have come to rebuild the area. Although quite stupid for him to say it because if he had handled this natural disaster with much more finesse, he would probably be put in the political limelight of the likes he has never seen--i.e. Senator nomination... But because he is trying to be down with the homies, and not trying to play the game, and put biatches on the track--really 'cuz he's NOT PIMPIN' (that's a side discussion)--then it doesn't suprise me he'd say something like what he said. Yeah it's bigotted, and stupid, but, he let those "folks" get him to be exasperated, rather than P.I.M.P. it out.

I tell yah, I would not be down with the homies right now. I'd be about hookin' up with General Honore and gettin' chit hooked up tight. Folks can bitch and moan and groan, but then, I'd be pullin' up my sleeves tryin' to make my city work... EFF the dumb...

I'd be tryin' to get my former service personnel outta duty to hep out the area--given that most of them rather be facin' lost alligators, snappin' turtles and water moccasians than havin' legs blown off by IED's anyday... And I wouldn't take no for an answer.

And to be blunt and EFF up as it sounds, I'd be puttin' marshall law into effect everyone has fully functional public utilities.

And as far as who gets what rebuilt. We'll and jacked up as this sounds, we're a capitalist society and we like to gamble, so why don't we just put that chit on a floating casino and let MF's lottery it out... The rest can be put into environmental clean up... Sink some of that crap to rebuild that reef so another hurricane doesn't blast thru there and flood chit up like it did last time... NO needs to consider is "NATURAL RESOURCES", too. And there are some good ones...

I'm beginning to believe--and this is from a professional viewpoint as well as a "I watch the news" one--that New Orleans will never be rebuilt. The only things that will remain will be what those of us who are not native New Orleanians have seen: the French Quarter, Garden District, Bourbon Street, etc.

Nagin's comments, despite whatever good intentions he may have had, reduce his credibility even more than before and reduce the possibility that his city will be what it was before.