Frat bashing article
 

I think I would be the "Let's go to my room and do shots" guy.


funny article:
http://heelpress.com/article.php?id=791

I think stereotypes are funny and definitly true on certain levels...but at least get the fucking stereotypes correct when you are hating on someone!

Even the comparisons that are somewhat correct have so many non frat qualities it's not even funny.

Some of those are somewhat correct, but if anyone had frosted tips and gelled hair in my house, they would get their head shaved almost instantly.

I give the article a 7 / 10, good shot, but scuffed up the follow through.

I think The Heel Press needs editors.

I'm pretty sure that if any of our guys had any of the qualities displayed in the "Conventional Frat Guy" they would probably be taken out of the fraternities. Who in blue hell wears hollister except out West.

all the "hip" individuals here in miami LOVE to pop their pastel collars and wear hollister.

You serious? Everyone here in AZ wears Hollister and A&F - then again, I guess we're the west. Seems like West Coast has so much more...fun...than east coast (what with both the big cities of the east but with the beaches and surfing) - not that I don't love the east coast, I just personally prefer the west.

In terms of the article - very stereotypical...a lot of guys in my fraternity drink, I drink, but I don't get drunk (I don't have more than a few drinks), I think being sloppy drunk is pretty unattractive - then again I'm probably more of a conservative frat guy!

In GENERAL, Hollister is "not fratty" in the South. I personally don't know anyone who shops there other than high school kids. Abercrombie is a little better but it still is.... gelhead-esque?

Eh...well I work at A&F, very little though (pretty much only for a discount, once a week). My real job is at the University, I get paid much more.

Yeah I'm pretty sure that if I see an Eagle or a Moose on some kid during rush, I cut him.

That's a bit harsh...I'd say 85% of the guys on campus at UA wear A&F...I hope you're joking dude - especially if the guy works at A&F (like me) whose closet is almost all A&F - what's wrong with one brand of clothing? If you would truely cut someone purely because he wears a brand of clothing which you don't like, you're not upholding the standards of fraternal brotherhood. That's no reason to cut someone.

When I was active it was all about the polo's, khakis, and button down shirts. I recently saw some current members at the bar and they were dressed kind of faggy with the pastel colors and popped collars. The rainbow club members on campus look more masculine than the greeks. I don't know what the obsession with hollister is ( uglier than A&F but nicer than AE?)

a&f is not fratty any way you look at it. they have jeans that have hols in them. wheres the class

A&F USED to be fratty like 6 or 7 years ago but they have definetly lost touch in recent times.

The class could start in your grammar, buddy ;) - Just joking. I agree that A&F and HCo aren't classy, but for casual dress they aren't bad.

Because we can find plenty of people who are nice guys and who deserve a bid. That's not hard, there's plenty of people like that. The best way to find the pledges who will best represent your fraternity is to find those which exude class. AF does not exude class for the most part, and neither does AE especially. Certainly not Hollister, but I am guilty of owning a few myself.

Plus wasn't Wes on Real World a greek at Arizona?
That might say something.

Okay, this whole big concern about what's "fratty" and what isn't is really gay. Even the word "fratty" is gay. The popped collar was gay back in the 80's and it's even gayer now.

Hollister? AE? A&F? All gay.

Missing the days when guys just wore 501 jeans and a t-shirt. All this extra grooming is just...gay.

wow, our Frat seriously has a wide variety of what bros wear. We wear pastels, letters t-shirts, jeans, polos, suits, all at the same party, this group dressing just sounds too cookie cutter.
Ben
Sigma Pi

So true, classic is classic.

I'm too old for guys who always wear stuff from AE and A+F, but guys who wear Express for Men makes my heart melt. :p Personally, I like "pretty boys".

A man who is a gentleman, "exudes class" in how he carries himself, his conversation and his humor - everything he does, and he has a moose in the corner of this shirt...absolutely no reason to cut someone. Sounds like the typical stereotype of "Frat guys are assholes".

So rare, but I agree with you. :) God, I remember when it was a Big Deal because one of the Sig Eps was rocking a ponytail. "OMG HE THINKS HE'S BONO OR SOMETHING!!"

So, if Hollister/A&F/AE are all unacceptable, what is cool? Lacoste?

Oh and also - while most frat guys are getting smashed on a Friday and Saturday night, drunk and inhibited, come back to me with your "class" argument. The brand of clothing they wear will be the farthest thing on my mind. Also you shouldn't be talking smack about Arizona - we're no less "masculine" than any other school, just because we are on the west coast and have more fun than the east coast boys says nothing about our masculinity or "class level".

Last time I looked at an atlas, Arizona was not on either coast but was a flyover state in the desert.:D

Give me the good old days when it was called Structure.

Ah, yes. I'll share a sad commentary. I was in a Children's Place shopping for my kids the other night...got to talking w/the cashier about retail and blahblahblah, and mentioned my old days as a Structure manager. She said "What's 'Structure?'" Has it been that long since the name changed???

Maybe I'm missing something but good grief, can you lay off the word 'gay' as a derogatory term? I can't believe that this is the only word in your entire vocab that you could find?.

What does 'gay' even mean about these stores?

If you do insist on using it, could you at least get the grammer part right...'gayer' should be 'more gay' ? (and really, only if you must)

AZ is considered west coast (just because it's an afternoon's drive from CA) - so technically, you're right - we're pretty much in the middle of the desert:D

I guess A&F and AE desire sexual relations with other clothing of the same gender?

Are you gay?

-Rudey

:D

I think Express is pretty damn brokeback. In fact every Limited brand including A&F is brokeback. Some chick on GC talked about how hollister was so great and i think THAT is definitely brokeback.

-Rudey

Heh - interesting adjective. Express has some great clothing, along with certain RL pieces. Nordstroms is great, carries great brands as well (albiet a bit pricier).

miami is the exception to ALL rules my friend.

BTW: Rudey- LOVE the new adjective... i'm think i'm gonna have to introduce it down here....

I clicked on an audio clip of the movie review a while back and didn't realize how loud it would be. Everyone in my office heard. The jokes still haven't stopped about me. But the good news is that now we all say it to each other. And after a while, I realized other people were saying it...finally it appeared on urbandictionary.com and we are working on having Websters add it to this year's new word additions.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...term=brokeback

-Rudey

It's on urban?! That makes me smile...:)

A&F is no longer a Limited brand.

That makes it no less brokeback. It's pretty damn brokeback.

-Rudey

Yeah, but you are going to have to get a lot of use out of it while you can. It's sounds like something thats gonna have an incredibly short shelf life. USe it for three weeks, then when everyone else is using it, make fun of them for it and tell them how its lame. lol.

I still think its funny tho.

And then in approximately 7 years, in the middle of a conversation with my friends I'll say that's brokeback. One guy will point his index finger at the other guy, tilt his head back, and laugh hysterically. Another guy will say "Yo dawg, he called you a homosexual and referenced a movie from 2005". Hilarity will ensue.

-Rudey