Pakistan Attack...
 

Was this smart?

http://www.suntimes.com/output/terro...s-qaida16.html

It sounds a lot to me like violating the soverign territory of a country we at least say in an ally.

Is that good?

We should have destroyed the entire village and denied knowing what happened.

They provide cover to terrorists. I really couldn't care about their sovereignty.

"Some news reports quoted unidentified Pakistani officials as saying up to 11 extremists were believed among the dead.

A senior intelligence official said Sunday that 12 bodies, including seven foreigners, had been taken from the village.

He said the bodies were reclaimed by other militants"

-Rudey

That's a little tough, given the model and serial numbers on the wepons.

Spread SARS.

-Rudey

Judging from the huge coverage it's getting in the MWODP, and the instant demonstrations in Pakistan (organized and paid for by whom?), there may be more to this than we think.

The article didn't seem to have any definite proof that it was a US missile. I didn't read it that throughly, but it just seemed that it was assumed to be the US....

Whatever

It was not a missle, it was a drone plane according to reports.

It sounds like if it is true and of course it did happen, the Intel. Reports were incorrect. But, Who said The Pakasatanies are that close to USA?

Hell that part of the world is as volital as any where !

Prolly an Armed Predator... packin' a couple o' Hellfire missiles.

As for the Pakistanis being that close to the USA... only when it suits 'em. That neck o' the woods over by the border of Afghanistan is about as close as the Wild West when it comes to lawlessness. Pak gub'mint threw up their hands in disgust long ago and let them govern their own state of anarchy.

Was What I figured too!

The P=Wads wnat to get what they want from USA and do thier won thing!:rolleyes:

Just wonder if not calling wolf!

What do You think AlphaSigOU?:)

What I know about The CIA, they seem at times to be as inept as the FBI!:rolleyes:

If you invite terrorists/militants over to your house for dinner you might get a missile attack against your house. It might even destroy your neighbors house too. Don't invite terrorists over for dinner, it's not good.

I don't think this article tried to. There were pictures on newscasts of fragments containing identifying marks.

It doesn't seem to me that we've even tried to deny it.

Yes, they were allegedly missles fired from drones.

Re: Pakistan Attack...
 

Hasn't stopped the CIA in the past (flights, secret prisons, kidnapping) why should it now?

Re: Re: Pakistan Attack...
 

It shouldn't. Just like it hasn't stopped the foreign intelligence agencies of most countries.

-Rudey

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Fair enough... just don't complain when the shoe is on the other foot and other "allied" nations decide that torturing/kidnapping/killing/assassinating US citizens is all okay according to BuSh doctrine.

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It's not the Bush doctrine. It's a global doctrine.

Other nations have been killing US citizens for decades now.

They were terrorists. The people in the villages harbor those terrorists. I'm not going to cry over a few dead terrorists and their dinner hosts in the mountains of Pakistan - something the leadership of Pakistan didn't completely complain about, indicating they knew.

-Rudey

In the first official confirmation by Pakistani authorities that militants were killed, the administration of Pakistan's semiautonomous tribal regions bordering Afghanistan said in a statement Tuesday that the four or five bodies of "foreign terrorists," who were among 10 to 12 extremists attending the dinner, were taken away "by their companions." It did not identify the dead militants.

I just want to cry big tears now.

-Rudey

I'm crying really big crocodile tears. Aside from the fact that the President of Pakistan has chosen to stay quiet indicating his approval, this is what we know so far:

Two senior trainers with Al Qaeda and the son-in-law of Al Qaeda's No. 2 leader, Ayman al-Zawahiri, were among those killed.

The Pakistani officials agreed that the deaths would be a strong setback to Al Qaeda in Pakistan's tribal areas.

At least one of the men believed by the Pakistani officials to have been killed, a 52-year-old Egyptian, known here as Abu Khabab al-Masri, is on the United States most-wanted list with a $5 million reward for help in his capture. His real name is Midhat Mursi al-Sayid Umar, who according to the United States government Web site rewardsforjustice.net, was an expert in explosives and poisons.

Abu Khabab, the Web site says, operated the Qaeda training camp at Darrunta, near Jalalabad in eastern Afghanistan, and trained hundreds of fighters. He was responsible for putting together a training manual with recipes for crude chemical and biological weapons, the Web site says.

Among those Abu Khabab trained was Abu Zubaydah, Al Qaeda's No. 3 operative, who was captured in 2002 in the Pakistani town of Faisalabad, one of the Pakistani officials said.

Another Egyptian, known by the alias Abu Ubayda al-Misri, was also believed killed, the Pakistani officials said. He was the chief of insurgent operations in a region near the area where the airstrikes occurred, according to one of the Pakistani officials.

As chief of operations, Abu Ubayda commanded attacks on American forces in his part of southern Afghanistan, and gave training and support to the insurgent groups active in the area. He also served as a liaison for senior Qaeda leaders, and provided logistics and security for the top Qaeda people in the region, the official said.

After the fall of the Taliban, Abu Ubayda moved to the Pakistani town of Shakai, in South Waziristan, where he commanded a small group of Arabs, but left the area when the Pakistani military mounted operations against the foreign militants there in February 2004, the officials said.

The third man believed to have been killed was a Moroccan, Abd al-Rahman al-Maghrebi, who is the son-in-law of Mr. Zawahiri, the officials said. Mr. Maghrebi was in charge of Qaeda propaganda in the region, and may have been responsible for distributing a number of CD's showing the activities of Taliban and Qaeda fighters in southern Afghanistan in recent months.

A fourth man, Mustafa Osman, another Egyptian and an associate of Mr. Zawahiri's, may also have been killed, one Pakistani security official said. But he was less certain of his fate. There may have been one or two more foreign militants killed as well, he said.

-Rudey

A few dead terrorists.

A few pissed off Pakis.

Looks like a win for the good guys.

Please tell me you aren't as stupid and insensitive as your statement makes you out to be...

Oh and it's Pakistanis you racist shit.

How to succeed in pissing off Pakistanis: Really fuck up!

They prefer 'Pakistanis' or 'Pak', but start calling 'em 'Pakis' and you're almost certain to get your ass kicked. It's considered a racial slur that packs as strong a punch as the 'N-word'.

(For the record, my late maternal grandfather's family originated from what is now Pakistan, though they were Hindu.)

Yeah Hoosier, It's not nice to insult terrorists or people that harbor them. Where are your manners????

Dang I never knew that. Dude, one of my bros is Pakistanian and when people ask him what he is, he says "I'm Zaki the Paki"

weird. now I get it.


good to know.

Hmmm... the flawed logic that because some Pakistanis sheltered terrorists that makes it okay to throw around racial slurs that insult an entire people...

Pakistan isn't a race.

-Rudey

Fine then... not racial slurs, but ethnic slurs... (unless of course slappy was directing the comment at the entire sub-continent)

To Much Over The Top Here!!!!!!!!!:eek:

In Your own mind at times.:confused:

Let's debate, not call names.

PS: You seem to respond negatively to most posts saying/implying something nice about the USA or our Pres. Is this the feeling of most Canadians?

The usage of the term Paki is an ethnic slur. It would be much appreciative if the term Paki is forwith not used in the future.

Back to your usual discussion.

Actually you'll note that I was responding negatively to your use of yet another enthically/racially insenative remark or statement... and yes that would be the "feeling" of most Canadians (I hope); in that they would view a person using such language in a negative light.

Pakistan is a nation. Many of its citizens are similar to those from Indian and Bangladesh actually. Stop bringing race into this.

-Rudey