Tracy Byrnes bitch-slaps GLOs (Please send her a response)
 

(I hope you will respond to this dummy - there's a link with the article)

Getting Educated About 529 Savings Plans
By Tracy Byrnes
TheStreet.com Contributor
1/8/2006 8:40 AM EST
URL: http://www.thestreet.com/funds/perso.../10260657.html


Most of us look back on our college careers and fondly smile at those four years of unbridled happiness. Those were good times.

Now, as a mother of three, it makes me nauseated to think that my son may someday be in a fraternity and that my daughters will, well, someday be in a fraternity.

Unfortunately, there's this pesky societal requirement that a kid needs at least a bachelor's degree to get a decent job these days. So I have no choice but to unleash my children to this debauchery and hope that they learn something in the process.

To make matters worse, I must now start saving for what will probably be the most expensive party of their lives. With private tuition already at $30,000 a year, presuming a 6% annual increase, I'm looking at a $300,000 party by the time my 18-month old youngest sweetie is driving on to campus. (Again, I'm nauseated.)

I just finished reading the Ivy Chronicles about this woman who gets fired from her job and becomes a private kindergarten school consultant.

Re: Tracy Byrnes bitch-slaps GLOs (Please send her a response)
 

What? This dumb bitch doesnt want to send her kids to school in fear that they will join a fraternity. I hope this ladies kids grow up to be high school dropouts, she won't have any worries then.

I think she's upset about all of the sex drugs and rock and roll.

She realizes her kids are going to grow up, and become cheeky, and go far away to some school, where she is going to drop tons of money for them to get blacked out 4 days a week and hook up a lot.


I've never set foot into a fraternity house where some level of debauchery wasn't present or looming on the very near horizon, I think she's been around the block and knows this is the case.

Yeah well, I've been to a few GDI parties that have been a lot worse than any fraternity party. At my school people (greeks) were very concerned about image and reputation. Drug use was also very taboo in the greek system, but people who weren't greek didn't have to worry about being judged or ostracized by their peers so pretty much anything went.

Yeah, for real. And if she doesn't want to send her kids to school, that's fine...they can always get a part-time job and go to Local Community College. I mean, if she's that damned worried about it...

Well, she could always share an off campus apartment with them. And walk them to class. And wait outside of the classroom to walk them back to the apartment.

Guess it is In The Eye of The Beholder!

Not Really Sure What She Is Beholden?:confused:

But, each to thier Own.:rolleyes:

I think that the greek life comment completely takes away from the woman's point about the rising cost of college. It also pretty much destroy's her creditablity to start an article that way. But college is expensive and there are multiple ways to invest if you chose to provide for your kids education.
I paid/ am paying for the rest of my life:rolleyes: for my college education. I wouldn't change it for the world.

sounds to me like that is the type of college life SHE experienced, so she assumes everyone else's college experience was/will be the same. yes there is always going to be boozing and sleeping around in college.. doesn't mean everyone partakes, even if they ARE in a fraternity or sorority. if i were her i wouldn't assume just because my college experience was one way, that my child's experience is going to be the same.

Why is it that it is always about Greeks and their drinking habits and their partying habits? I mean, I know I went to a few, mean, drunken GDI parties that could definately give a GLO a run for their money. Things happen for a reason and if she is so worried about her children, then maybe she should be a better mother. I know my parents taught me right from wrong, and those were the choices that helped me when I got into situations that I wouldn't want to be in.

She's what is wrong with today's society. Always blaming others for her mistakes. So, if her child doesn't get an 'A' in reading, it's the teachers fault--instead of her own for not making her child do homework! :rolleyes:

Good idea!!

She loses her credibility by being so flip, and yet, she does have good information (I assume) to give - without trashing GLOs. The gist of her article appears on the last page, and would have made a better lead in the long run.

Because so much over the top stuff happens in Fraternity and Sorority houses. I've seen stuff in fraternity houses that rivals and destroys some of the things I've seen touring with Phish and at large 100,000 person summer music festivals. That says a lot.

Phish? Thats your problem there frathole. What can you see at a Phish concert other than hippies in birkenstocks and hemp necklaces?

You would be absolutley shocked at some of the things you see. Lots of strange, strange people, great music, drugs you want to be nowhere near, and strange strange strange people.

I do agree that sometimes GLOs seem to get singled out for more attention to their partying than do non-Greeks. For instance, the Sunday, January 8, 2006 Richmond (Virginia) Times Dispatch has an article ("Board member hosted formal") covering lawsuits, charges and countercharges, etc. resulting from a sorority party. It's woth noting that the story DOES mention that the sorority shut down the party early and sent people home (in busses, apparently). It also sounds like steps were taken to make sure that alcohol was served in compliance with state law. Nevertheless, reportedly things "got out of hand because of alcohol consumption and sexual activity."

http://www.timesdispatch.com

I'm not sure that the problem with this paricular party was that it was hosted by a sorority, or that it was held at one of the homes of a member of the Board of William and Mary. The underlying problem may be current drinking practices -- "pre-partying" in particular -- that certainly aren't exclusive to Greek life.

I have to second the proposal that parents need to do their best to give their children (Greek or not) good values and positive advice on how to handle or get out of bad situations.

That's a big leap to take there.

So she doesn't want her kids partying. She's honest. Most parents aren't smart enough to realize that a good upbringing can go out the door when a child gets on his/her own. You can teach a man to fish, but that doesn't mean he won't ever go hungry. She never says she didn't teach her children well. She just says that she doesn't want them getting into trouble.

I dare say everyone would not be jumping down her throat had she not mentioned that she doesn't want them being greek. I'll be honest, when I think of the stuff I've seen go on at greek parties I am a bit hesitant for my son to join a fraternity. Do I REALLY want to think about him being used as a game piece for actives to throw moldy fruit at in a game of pong during hell week? Not really. (I have seen this happen.) There are a million other things that I could say I am hesitant about him going through.

Am I going to stop him if he goes greek? No. And, this woman doesn't say she wants to stop them. She just hopes they won't go greek. So what?

I say this woman is concerned about her kids. Let's be honest here. She probably has reason to be hesitant. Anyone who says that they haven't done some really stupid/dangerous things is lying. She even said she hoped they'd learn from them.

But, everyone is so eager to burn her at the damn stake because she said one thing negative about the greek system. That's stupid.

I heart you.

Frathole,

Where is your campus? It sounds awesome.

I was supposed to go to the last Phish tour ever. Stupid summer class.

You should let your son join a fraternity. If you have a daughter ever, don't let her join a sorority.

-Rudey

It's just that her statement is so ridiculous and contains so many ridiculous assumptions.

1) She assumes her kids will want to go Greek.
2) She assumes they will get in.
3) She assumes if they do, they will do nothing but party.
4) She assumes that all colleges have a Greek system.
5) She assumes Greek life is the only place where debauching takes place, which is completely untrue.

It sounds like this woman got her knowledge of college life and how one becomes Greek from Family Ties, or something of the like. I'd have less of a problem with her saying she was concerned if she wasn't so egregiously stupid.

I agree... I didn't even get the impression that she was MOST concerned about greek life, she KNOWS just COLLEGE can be a crazy time, and let's be honest I think she DOES have a right to be concerned. Even those with the best upbringings do stupid stuff in college.

Tracy Byrnes
 

People remember Tracy Byrnes is jaded. She is divorced with 3 kids. Probably married her man she met in college and he ran around on her and screwed other college sluts, (we know there are many) why I do not know, she is HOT!! But it's enough to make her see things, at her age, differently than those of us who had a great college experience. I feel sorry for her.

My daughter goes to a college with no Greeks. Seems like there's an awful lot of partying/drinking/don't ask don't tell-ing going on at her non-Greek college.

I agree with dvs-dz. I've taught at 2 non-Greek colleges and I truly think they were wilder than the ones with Greeks. And let me add that I've seen plenty of things on both kinds of campuses.

Kids can go wild at any campus, be they Greek or not, and it's naive to blame it all on Greek life.

Thats good to hear.

This thread is over 2 years old. I doubt anyone was thinking about it anymore. ;)