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Honeykiss1974 01-04-2006 05:41 PM

Lindsey Lohan talks about bulimia, drug use in Vanity Fair
 
Lohan: 'I was making myself sick'
Actress talks about bulimia, drug use in Vanity Fair

Wednesday, January 4, 2006; Posted: 3:35 p.m. EST (20:35 GMT)

LOS ANGELES, California (AP) -- Lindsay Lohan, who was hospitalized in Miami this week for an asthma attack, tells Vanity Fair in an interview that she has dabbled in drugs and battled bulimia.

The 19-year-old actress-pop singer says that following the success of 2004's "Mean Girls, she dabbled in drugs "a little," but quickly adds: "I've gotten that out of my system." The issue hits newsstands Tuesday.

When asked if her drug use including cocaine, Lohan denies it, saying, "I don't want people to think that I've done ... you know what I mean?"

She does, though, more openly discuss last year's drastic weight loss. Lohan acknowledges that she was suffering from bulimia: "I was making myself sick."


http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/TV/0....ap/index.html

AchtungBaby80 01-04-2006 06:06 PM

I knew there was something wrong when that girl went from cute to Skeletor, even though she swore up and down in all her interviews that she was just working out more.

Rudey 01-04-2006 06:13 PM

There is no such thing as too skinny.

Lindsay I love you baby!

-Rudey
--But not as much as Hil

texas*princess 01-04-2006 08:17 PM

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Originally posted by AchtungBaby80
I knew there was something wrong when that girl went from cute to Skeletor, even though she swore up and down in all her interviews that she was just working out more.
lol @ Skeletor comment!!

Yea I think it was pretty obvious that something was going on... you don't lose that much weight overnight on regular diet/exercise regimens.

Unregistered- 01-04-2006 08:24 PM

I've always wanted to just shake the living shit outta her ever since she first stepped up in the Parent Trap remake. :rolleyes:

uksparkle 01-04-2006 10:16 PM

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Originally posted by OTW
I've always wanted to just shake the living shit outta her ever since she first stepped up in the Parent Trap remake. :rolleyes:
I'm glad I'm not the only one who hates her. In Mean Girls I was rooting for Regina.

christiangirl 01-04-2006 11:12 PM

Something sounds fishy about that. "I was making myself sick" can mean a dozen different things. I'm suspicious anytime the surrounding quotes are edited out so that you can't tell what context it was in.

neonsparkles 01-05-2006 01:19 AM

The one thing about the article I liked was when she mentioned how Tina Fey and Micheal Lorne sat her down and told her they cared about her and she needed to stop what she was doing. I know its hard to stop someone who is abusing drugs/has an eating disorder... but I sometimes wonder if these young adult actors that we often hear having drug/alcohol/eating disorders EVER had someone sit them down and try to help them out?

PM_Mama00 01-05-2006 02:10 AM

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Originally posted by christiangirl
Something sounds fishy about that. "I was making myself sick" can mean a dozen different things. I'm suspicious anytime the surrounding quotes are edited out so that you can't tell what context it was in.
She admitted that she suffered bulimia.... what's so fishy about her making herself sick? That's what you do when you're bulimic right?

christiangirl 01-05-2006 03:52 AM

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Originally posted by PM_Mama00
She admitted that she suffered bulimia.... what's so fishy about her making herself sick? That's what you do when you're bulimic right?
In that link to the CNN thing, the reporter said she had bulimia, then quoted her saying "I was making myself sick." The reporter took that one phrase, then put in other stuff around it. By taking out the stuff she said before and after that, you'd never really know what she was talking about at the time; you'd have to take the reporter's word that she was talking about bulimia, but that's not exactly what she said.....and if she did admit it to bulimia, why not quote the whole admission (which would've made that article WAY more credible than any other)? That's what I mean by fishy.

AlphaFrog 01-05-2006 08:45 AM

If she really just meant that the way she was eating and treating her body was making her sick, I doubt they would have posted the story like that. Rag mags may not care about a libel lawsuit, but I'm pretty sure the Associated Press doesn't want to get slapped with slander.

mu_agd 01-05-2006 08:51 AM

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Originally posted by christiangirl
In that link to the CNN thing, the reporter said she had bulimia, then quoted her saying "I was making myself sick." The reporter took that one phrase, then put in other stuff around it. By taking out the stuff she said before and after that, you'd never really know what she was talking about at the time; you'd have to take the reporter's word that she was talking about bulimia, but that's not exactly what she said.....and if she did admit it to bulimia, why not quote the whole admission (which would've made that article WAY more credible than any other)? That's what I mean by fishy.
Vanity Fair is well known for not releasing the entire article online or to the press to get people to buy the magazine. The magazine says she is quoted as stating that she was bulimic, which is where the CNN reporter got the phrase from.

BetteDavisEyes 01-05-2006 12:52 PM

:rolleyes:


Never liked her. She's annoying as hell & I love Love LOVED the Skeletor reference.

KillarneyRose 01-05-2006 07:39 PM

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Originally posted by mu_agd
Vanity Fair is well known for not releasing the entire article online or to the press to get people to buy the magazine. The magazine says she is quoted as stating that she was bulimic, which is where the CNN reporter got the phrase from.

Too true! Several years ago Vanity Fair released a quote from Christian Slater in reference to then-supermodel Christy Turlington that read, "And there I was, doing it with Christy Turlington." When the issue came out, it turned out he had been talking about a photo shoot the two of them had done when they were dating.

wrigley 01-05-2006 09:05 PM

Didn't she just come out with a book about her life as well?

Bulimia is a serious health problem.

texas*princess 01-05-2006 09:13 PM

"I was making myself sick"
 
... maybe she was referring to the movie roles she was accepting :p

christiangirl 01-06-2006 01:47 AM

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Originally posted by KillarneyRose
Too true! Several years ago Vanity Fair released a quote from Christian Slater in reference to then-supermodel Christy Turlington that read, "And there I was, doing it with Christy Turlington." When the issue came out, it turned out he had been talking about a photo shoot the two of them had done when they were dating.
This is what I mean. It's not exactly the same since CNN is in on it (there're more reputable), but before I start in on "Oh, poor Lindsay" I need to see the whole thing.

Besides the minimum requirements for 'clinical bulimia nervosa' are pretty strict, so unless she was treated by doctors, I doubt it was the real thing (which sucks, b/c people with real problems don't get necessary treatment if they don't meet those requirements).

PM_Mama00 01-06-2006 03:17 AM

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Originally posted by christiangirl
This is what I mean. It's not exactly the same since CNN is in on it (there're more reputable), but before I start in on "Oh, poor Lindsay" I need to see the whole thing.

Besides the minimum requirements for 'clinical bulimia nervosa' are pretty strict, so unless she was treated by doctors, I doubt it was the real thing (which sucks, b/c people with real problems don't get necessary treatment if they don't meet those requirements).

That's stupid. (not you, but requirements) If someone is doing something to purposely expel things from their body in order to lose weight, no matter what, it's bulimia.

christiangirl 01-06-2006 03:43 AM

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Originally posted by PM_Mama00
That's stupid. (not you, but requirements) If someone is doing something to purposely expel things from their body in order to lose weight, no matter what, it's bulimia.
I agree it's stupid, but that's the way it is right now. According to the DSM-IV-TR published by the American Psychiatric Association, Lindsay Lohan DID NOT have bulimia if she did not experience recurrent episodes of bingeing following by inappropriate compensating behavior (which means vomiting, laxatives, exercise, etc.) consistently for at least twice a week for 3 months. When I become a licensed psychologist, this is one of the first things I want to change. While I know that a person (i.e., girl) who clearly has a problem would receive some sort of medical attention, this is still crazy (the req. for anorexia is equally ridiculous). It's hard enough for people to admit they have problems, how can you sit back and tell them they don't 'qualify' to get help for it?

So while Lindsay may have said she had bulimia (which I still haven't seen proof of, I'd have to see the interview), if she wasn't "making herself sick" consistently for those 24+ times, then (technically) no dice.

AlphaFrog 01-06-2006 08:13 AM

THe DSM is a GUIDE. I doubt you'll find a psychiatrist that's not a quack that says: "According to the DSM VI, you don't meet the criteria, so there's nothing I can do to help you, you're fine, get out of my office." Even if someone's not a "textbook" case, if they are self-conscience about their body and throw up/take laxtives/etc...even a few times, there's probably some underlying problem there that needs to be addressed.

sugar and spice 01-06-2006 12:03 PM

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Originally posted by christiangirl
I agree it's stupid, but that's the way it is right now. According to the DSM-IV-TR published by the American Psychiatric Association, Lindsay Lohan DID NOT have bulimia if she did not experience recurrent episodes of bingeing following by inappropriate compensating behavior (which means vomiting, laxatives, exercise, etc.) consistently for at least twice a week for 3 months. When I become a licensed psychologist, this is one of the first things I want to change. While I know that a person (i.e., girl) who clearly has a problem would receive some sort of medical attention, this is still crazy (the req. for anorexia is equally ridiculous). It's hard enough for people to admit they have problems, how can you sit back and tell them they don't 'qualify' to get help for it?

So while Lindsay may have said she had bulimia (which I still haven't seen proof of, I'd have to see the interview), if she wasn't "making herself sick" consistently for those 24+ times, then (technically) no dice.

She would have, however, been diagnosed with ED-NOS even if she didn't fit every single characteristic for bulimia. And any reputable therapist or doctor would have treated her anyway. So I'm not sure why this matters . . .

irishpipes 01-06-2006 12:05 PM

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Originally posted by sugar and spice
She would have, however, been diagnosed with ED-NOS even if she didn't fit every single characteristic for bulimia. And any reputable therapist or doctor would have treated her anyway. So I'm not sure why this matters . . .
I have no idea, but I wonder if it might matter in terms of insurance coverage?

AlphaFrog 01-06-2006 12:14 PM

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Originally posted by irishpipes
I have no idea, but I wonder if it might matter in terms of insurance coverage?
As loaded as she is, does it matter?

irishpipes 01-06-2006 12:34 PM

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Originally posted by AlphaFrog
As loaded as she is, does it matter?
I didn't mean for Lindsay - I meant for non-celebrity people.

valkyrie 01-06-2006 01:18 PM

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Originally posted by AlphaFrog
THe DSM is a GUIDE. I doubt you'll find a psychiatrist that's not a quack that says: "According to the DSM VI, you don't meet the criteria, so there's nothing I can do to help you, you're fine, get out of my office." Even if someone's not a "textbook" case, if they are self-conscience about their body and throw up/take laxtives/etc...even a few times, there's probably some underlying problem there that needs to be addressed.
That's quite a leap -- to say you don't meet the criteria for bulemia, therefore I can't do anything to treat the problems you do have. WTF?

AlphaFrog 01-06-2006 01:26 PM

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Originally posted by valkyrie
That's quite a leap -- to say you don't meet the criteria for bulemia, therefore I can't do anything to treat the problems you do have. WTF?
That's exactly what I was saying. If someone thinks they have enough of a problem to seek out help, I don't think you'll find a shrink that would turn them down because they don't meet the criteria for any particular disorder.

Tickled Pink 2 01-06-2006 01:41 PM

Now, will Nicole Richie please tell the truth?

sugar and spice 01-06-2006 01:55 PM

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Originally posted by irishpipes
I have no idea, but I wonder if it might matter in terms of insurance coverage?
The kind of treatment typically needed to address an eating disorder (several weeks or even months of inpatient or daily outpatient therapy, followed by months or years of appointments with psychologists and nutritionists) is often not covered by insurance. Even when it is, it's notorious for covering only a ridiculously short time span (say, ten days when the recommended minimum treatment time is 60 days) to the point where decent treatment can be pretty tricky to obtain unless you're wealthy.

What the diagnosis would be more likely to affect is whether or not you're admitted to a treatment program in the first place. I've had friends struggle with eating disorders for years, finally reach the point where they admit that they need help -- and contact treatment programs only to find out that they're not considered "sick" enough to get the help they need.

Ohh, the wonderful world of eating disorder treatment . . . haha.

christiangirl 01-06-2006 05:08 PM

I was talking about what happens BY THE BOOK not the exceptions that we making in real life. My point was that the characterstics shouldn't be that strict in the first place (esp. if good doctors wouldn't follow that if they are, why even go through the charade of leaving them that way if they won't/shouldn't be followed?).

pinkiebell1001 01-06-2006 09:56 PM

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Originally posted by Tickled Pink 2
Now, will Nicole Richie please tell the truth?
Seriously!!! I saw a picture of her in shorts (most likely a size zero) and they were hanging on her!!! I mean, I'm honestly afraid for her at this point-she really doesn't have anything left to lose! I hope she gets some help soon:(

SoCalGirl 01-07-2006 02:54 AM

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Originally posted by pinkiebell1001
Seriously!!! I saw a picture of her in shorts (most likely a size zero) and they were hanging on her!!! I mean, I'm honestly afraid for her at this point-she really doesn't have anything left to lose! I hope she gets some help soon:(
I know plenty of girls who are a size zero, or two on their "fat" days. They don't look sickly. I wish the general public would not automatically assume that anyone who's a zero is anorexic, or that any woman larger than an 8 is "huge".

That said, I do believe that Nicole Richie is anorexic. I'd believe that Lindsey is anorexic before I'd believe she's bulimic. I've read that most bulimics are actually at or above average body weight. That's part of the reason bulimic's have an easier time than anorexics of hiding their illness. I've had no reason to doubt it either because every bulemic I've ever known (and there's been quite a few) all seemed to be of "average" size. Not sickly.

Last night, I was watching The Secret Lives Of Women on WE. It was about eating disorders and followed an anorexic mother of two; a 19 year old anorexic who is currently an exercise bulimic; and a compulsive overeater. The 19 year old admitted to being a size 2, her mom is a DOUBLE ZERO. The girl, who said she exercises 2-3 hours a day, looked like she had no muscle at all. She was small, but it look like it was all fat. I was shocked when she admitted to being a 2. I would have said she was a size 10 easily. She had a double chin. How can you be a size two and have a double chin?

sugar and spice 01-07-2006 05:41 AM

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Originally posted by SoCalGirl

Last night, I was watching The Secret Lives Of Women on WE. It was about eating disorders and followed an anorexic mother of two; a 19 year old anorexic who is currently an exercise bulimic; and a compulsive overeater. The 19 year old admitted to being a size 2, her mom is a DOUBLE ZERO. The girl, who said she exercises 2-3 hours a day, looked like she had no muscle at all. She was small, but it look like it was all fat. I was shocked when she admitted to being a 2. I would have said she was a size 10 easily. She had a double chin. How can you be a size two and have a double chin?

Some people have fat faces . . . ahem, Kirsten Dunst (she's tiny but you've never know it by looking at her face).

That said, I think a more accurate description of Hohan's food problems would be "purging anorexia." Bulimia generally involves eating normal meals without purging, but following that up with larger binge/purge cycles. Purging anorexia means throwing up most of what you eat, or everything you eat, and can lead to extreme weight loss. As you said, true bulimics tend to be on the normal-to-chunky side. But the general public who is not well-acquainted with eating disorders tends to believe that anybody who throws up is bulimic.

SSS1365 01-07-2006 01:50 PM

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Originally posted by sugar and spice
Some people have fat faces . . . ahem, Kirsten Dunst (she's tiny but you've never know it by looking at her face).

That said, I think a more accurate description of Hohan's food problems would be "purging anorexia." Bulimia generally involves eating normal meals without purging, but following that up with larger binge/purge cycles. Purging anorexia means throwing up most of what you eat, or everything you eat, and can lead to extreme weight loss. As you said, true bulimics tend to be on the normal-to-chunky side. But the general public who is not well-acquainted with eating disorders tends to believe that anybody who throws up is bulimic.

I agree with this. I have a friend who used to be both anorexic and bulimic, and she was frighteningly thin. I think it's entirely possible that Miss Lohan is battling both since they do seem to come hand-in-hand for a lot of people.

AchtungBaby80 01-07-2006 02:28 PM

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Originally posted by SoCalGirl
I know plenty of girls who are a size zero, or two on their "fat" days. They don't look sickly. I wish the general public would not automatically assume that anyone who's a zero is anorexic, or that any woman larger than an 8 is "huge".
I know. I was like that, even after I had recovered from anorexia, and it really upset me when people would joke about how I must be anorexic because I was so thin. It was very hurtful. I do, however, think something isn't really "right" with Nicole Richie...she has sworn in interviews that she has always been really thin except for when she was in rehab and gained weight, and that's when she became famous so we're used to seeing her that way. I'm not sure I buy that--she just doesn't look healthy. There's a difference between being naturally thin and looking like you're actually alive, and being thin and sick-looking.

pinkiebell1001 01-07-2006 11:06 PM

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Originally posted by SoCalGirl
I know plenty of girls who are a size zero, or two on their "fat" days. They don't look sickly. I wish the general public would not automatically assume that anyone who's a zero is anorexic, or that any woman larger than an 8 is "huge".


Well...I don't think I came across clearly. I know plenty of size zero girls as well, and they look incredibly healthy ya know??? Cause that's a normal size for them. On Nicole Richie...well, let's just say she's not healthy at that size. This is the picture I was referring to, and maybe it's just me, but that does NOT look healthy period.



http://popsugar.com/uploads9/56508465.jpg

lonestaradpi 01-07-2006 11:25 PM

Who do these celebs think they are kidding? Do they think the general public is that stupid to believe that they get that skinny without some drastic measures? "Rehab", "exercise", "being healthy", "cutting out fried foods", "naturally fast metabolism"? Come on!

rhochi2002 01-08-2006 12:34 AM

I think lindsey was alot prettier before she lost weight. She is skinny, to the point that it is gross. I think you can usually tell if people havee an eating disorder by looking at their faces and heads compared with their bodies. People with large heads and little bodies are usually eating disorders.
Some people are naturally thin and they look healthy.

christiangirl 01-08-2006 02:14 AM

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Originally posted by sugar and spice
Purging anorexia means throwing up most of what you eat, or everything you eat, and can lead to extreme weight loss. As you said, true bulimics tend to be on the normal-to-chunky side. But the general public who is not well-acquainted with eating disorders tends to believe that anybody who throws up is bulimic.
I was gonna point that out, too. There really should be no such thing as 'having both' since they contradict in terms (but I know a few people who've described themselves as 'having both.') Lindsay said once that her problems with her dad and worrying about her family was what caused her initial weight loss--and that anybody who went through what she did with her family would probably have lost a lot of weight, too. So who knows what's really going on with her, we'll never know the full story anyway.

SOPi_Jawbreaker 01-10-2006 07:14 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060110/...NlYwN5bmNhdA--

NEW YORK -
Lindsay Lohan is "appalled" by the Vanity Fair article released last week in which she confessed to dabbling in drugs and battling bulimia.

The Vanity Fair story, which hit newsstands nationally Tuesday and was widely reported last week, made headlines for the 19-year-old actress' acknowledgment that she dabbled in drugs "a little."

The magazine also quoted Lohan on her drastic weight loss last year: "I was making myself sick," she said. The article, written by Evgenia Peretz, noted Lohan was "referring to bulimic episodes."

Lohan also said, "I knew I had a problem and I couldn't admit it."

However, in a statement released Tuesday to Teen People magazine, Lohan denied having bulimia and said, "The words that I gave to the writer for Vanity Fair were misused and misconstrued, and I'm appalled with the way it was done."

An editor for Teen People said Lohan's denial was regarding Vanity Fair's reporting of her alleged bulimia, not drug use.

"Aside from (the writer's) lies and changing of my words, I am blessed to have this job and wonderful family that I do," Lohan's statement read.

Vanity Fair, in a statement of its own, stood by its story.

"Evgenia Peretz is one of our most reliable reporters," the magazine said. "Every word Lindsay Lohan told her is on tape. Vanity Fair stands by the story."

A call to Lohan's publicist, Leslie Sloane Zelnick, was not immediately returned Tuesday.

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On the Net:

http://www.teenpeople.com/teenpeople/

http://www.vanityfair.com/

http://www.llrocks.com/

Honeykiss1974 01-11-2006 12:22 PM

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Originally posted by SOPi_Jawbreaker
An editor for Teen People said Lohan's denial was regarding Vanity Fair's reporting of her alleged bulimia, not drug use.


This made me laugh. LOL As if one is better than the other.


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