So whose chapters DO NOT have houses?
 

I go to school in RI, and to sum it up: everything is a fire hazard. That rock over there? Fire hazard. That bucket of water? Fire hazard. Hell I think even people just standing around are fire hazards. Needless to say, finding a town that is OK with Greek houses is really tough.

Oh, and then there are those super necessary old laws dating back to the 1700s: "Any more than 5 women not related by blood cannot live in a house" (because apparently every sorority is a brothel by default nowadays :rolleyes: ). These laws are also somehow tied in with the men, which rules out fraternity houses as well.

Ahhhh I'm just venting because I really want to live in a big house instead of "The Greek Residence Hall" at school :mad: So is anyone else a part of a chapter that does not have a house?

isnt that supposed to be a crock of ... ?

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... which is a lie made up by someone a loooooong time ago.

Gotta love the "brothel law" myth...

I'm an alum of a chapter that did not have a house. My chapter just recently got a house. I'm glad I had the experience of living in a dorm. I was a member of two "living groups" - my sorority and my floor. (Even unhoused GLOs are considered "living groups".)

At my school, if you pledged a men's fraternity, you moved into the house the minute you signed, and you stayed there for the next 4 years unless you depledged or deaffiliated. So a lot of these young men never really got to know anyone except their brothers. I always thought that was kinda sad...

Re: So whose chapters DO NOT have houses?
 

As stated earlier, that brothel "law" is a crock of isht.

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I'm glad I didn't have to be the one to say it.

My chapter doesn't have a house probably never will. There is a bylaw prohibiting fraternity/sorority houses in Guelph (but don't worry, it's not because of the "brothel law"). I'm not sure what their reasoning is, but it's there.

Our chapter gets a long just fine without it. It would be nice. But it's not necessary.

Penn State has fraternity houses, but not sorority houses. The sororities live in the dorms and have suites. There aren't enough big enough and cheap enough houses to have all the sororities move off campus.

One sorority has a house and I think 2 fraternities have houses.

There really aren't any places nearby to have zoned out for Greek Housing. And since it's a commuter school, there really isn't a need.

We've been fine with just finding apartments and houses for rent on our own.

My chapter HAD a house - they my university wanted to expand, so they bought our house.

Now we have a block of 4 apartments with a big meeting room joining them that we have. Unlike other Student apartments, we have priority over them and we can bend the age/class rules, unlike other people.

It works just fine :)

Ummm....I went to college in RI. To my knowledge, none of the schools in Providence had nationally-owned chapter houses, but we all had townhouses provided by the University (a much better deal, IMHO).

At URI, in Kingston, the chapters have houses. I imagine the fire code is the same in Smithfield as it is in P-viddence and Kingston, no?

Talk to other chapters at the many other schools in RI. Find out how they have housing.

At our university, all 9 social sororities have houses and maybe 9 of the 15 fraternities have houses. If we wanted to build or buy a house, we'd have to approach our city council to have it rezoned. Obviously, they don't typically vote in a GLO's favor. Our city recently adopted some new fire prevention laws that required most of the houses to install sprinkler systems and update their emergency exits. Several chapters almost lost their charters because of not following the rulings.

LXA at Un. R I had and I think now again has their old house whit is grat looking from the exterior.

While We have not had a House for almost 3 years, We will once again have a new House at The Pitt. In Kansas.

William-Jewell has very Nice New Big Fraternity Houses, but, the Sororitys are still in The Dorms with wings.

Many times, Relegious Colleges will let Men have Houses, but not Women as They are so immoral!:D

Brothel Laws went out with Horses spiting on the Streets!;)

I went to URI, and there is definitely fraternity and sorority housing there. A couple of years ago they had to do a little work in our house so that it'd meet new fire standards, which I think were a result of the Station House fire. But the so called "brothel laws" are not existent in RI, and really anywhere.

I must agree with you about the fire standards though. Schools in MA get away with a lot more than at URI. I actually see dorm rooms with paper on them and posters in the windows. Totally not allowed at URI in the dorms or greek houses when I was there.

Tom, the LXA house is amazing at URI. I haven't been in it since they got it back (Phi Sig had it for about 10 years I think), but it's your typical greek house, white with columns in the front. Most URI houses look like ski lodges, so this is a big deal. Last I knew, the chapter was doing great as well. They improved themselves greatly when I was in school (graduated in 2001). Doubled their size one semester, still before they had their house back.

I was initiated at Washington University in St. Louis which doesn't have houses for its sororities. Decades ago a female university alumna donated money for a women's building to be built with suites for the sororities to use as meeting spaces. As long as her gift was being used to maintain the building, the sororities were prohibited from having houses. (Note that they tell the "brothel law" story to incoming freshmen.) Her money ran out a few years ago, but the sororities now have the option to get living space through student group housing and as far as I know have not pursued getting individual houses.

None of the Greeks at CSU Dominguez Hills have houses. From what I understand in some ways it was a blessing since we were able to keep our dues relatively low. I know when I was active though we always wanted to buy a house. Now that housing prices are so outrageous in L.A. that's going to be a long way off for the actives (unless some alum wins the lotto).

No houses at SFSU. They don't really even have rooms big enough for the sororities to hold meetings anymore since they've tripled in size since I was an active member, two years ago.

Neither of the two sororities on my campus have houses. My chapter's advisor doesn't want us to get one, as she fears it would raise dues too high. We looked into getting a suite in one of the dorms, but I doubt we'll get it, as I go to a commuter school and not enough of us live on campus.

We do have some office space given to us by our school, but they're old dorm rooms on an unused wing of one of the dorms. My chapter, at 10 people, can barely fit in.

Having attended Kent State (and pledged there) my freshman year of college (15 years ago), I am curious to see the Greek Village upon completion.

Let me know how it goes.

At Pitt, the fraternities had/have houses but most of the sororities were given a floor in Amos Hall that we could decorate as we dedided fit and, as long as the floor was at 100% occupancy, residence life didn't care who lived there. We didn't have to do the lottery like the other dorms - thank goodness.

Two houses, KKG and KAO, did have houses off campus complete with house mom and all. But I wouldn't have liked that, especially walking those extra blocks to class. Plus, the quad our dorm was is was kind of the middle of everything.

ETA: Here's a picture I found of sisters in the formal end living room. So you see it doesn't look very dorm-like at all
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KR , we are looking for pictures with big hair. Please provide us with those pronto. Chop chop sweetheart!

none of the GLOs at my school have houses. The 4 NPC sororities that we have (Gamma Phi, Tri-Delta, ADPi and AEPhi) all have their own hall. The fraternities all have halls as well. but im not sure about the NPHC sororities (AKA, DST)at my school...

As I posted in another thread, sororities at WGa don't have houses either. The 6 NPC sororities are in one dorm. There was a push last semester to try to get us to move into a new apt. complex owned by a private company where each group would be allowed to put their letters on and use as "a house" but finances, sizes of the chapter room, etc. didn't work out.

The fraternities have had them since the 70's but I don't think all at one time due to low membership, etc. I think that's the case now. I don't keep up with them because it seems that the number keeps changing due to colonization, losing charters, rechartering, etc.

The univ wants to build Greek apts in a few years. Hopefully this past semester has been a wake-up call for everyone that the Greeks need to be involved in discussions at the very beginning or we won't/can't buy into it.

I agree with the CA about possible dues increases. It will definately happen because there are more financial/insurance/legal responsibiilities that mere dorms don't have.

As I posted in another thread, sororities at WGa don't have houses either. The 6 NPC sororities are in one dorm. There was a push last semester to try to get us to move into a new apt. complex owned by a private company where each group would be allowed to put their letters on and use as "a house" but finances, sizes of the chapter room, etc. didn't work out.

The fraternities have had them since the 70's but I don't think all at one time due to low membership, etc. I think that's the case now. I don't keep up with them because it seems that the number keeps changing due to colonization, losing charters, rechartering, etc.

The univ wants to build Greek apts in a few years. Hopefully this past semester has been a wake-up call for everyone that the Greeks need to be involved in discussions at the very beginning or we won't/can't buy into it.

I agree with the CA about possible dues increases. It will definately happen because there are more financial/insurance/legal responsibiilities that mere dorms don't have.

A smidgen of me would like to see houses for everyone cause it would save hassles in trying to find facilities for different events throughout the years. but on a realistic day-to-day basis, nope.

No individual door locks? WHAAAAT???? And I thought Bryant/Smithfield went overboard on this kind of stuff...

Wow Killarney, that looks amazing for a regular dorm room! The only thing we can do is paint our walls and hang a few things....but the hanging stuff will eventually catch on fire somehow :rolleyes:

I know...it's crazy...but if you listen to them, all colleges in RI are like that :rolleyes:

We don't have a house... Greek life at UCF is relatively young. The houses on campus are nice, but there are only maybe 10 total houses, plus a few off campus. UCF is supposed to be building a "Greek Park 2" based off the Greek communities at USF, but I doubt that will happen.

Some form of Greek Housing is great for one thing.

A place to meet! Lodges, Dorms, Apartments or Self owned Housing.

Having come from a State Un. We all have Houses. One Fraternity is Renting but the other 5 own Property and along with the 3 Sororitys.

But, isnt there always, We got into trouble because Our House fell into such disrepair that We lost Membership and could not afford to keep it up no matter what.

A self contained House can be a Money Pit if there is not enough Membership to maintain it.:(

We are building a New HOUSE ON THE if come and an Alum who felt the need to give back for what He recieved as a Member in College. Basically, that means a strong Alum base who donates to keep things going in Times of Good and Times of Bad.

Depending on where a College is located is of prime importance for sure! Land values and pricing along with rent dictates whether You have a meeting place.

Membership is a panacea, ergo, if GLOs are on a Campus and are going to survive, then it would be nice if all help each other!:cool:

With a New House, We are going to rise like the pheonix and grow to fill it and make us strong again.

Word of advice, when looking for a place, go for no more that 14-15. That seems to be the maximum Number. Everyone can come to the house and the house can support the Chapter.:)

This is very off-topic, and I'm posting this because it's you that asked, Bobby...
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Thanks! Good times Killarny

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Our first house didn't have locks on doors of the individual rooms and they school was forced to put them on because someone's parent's homeowners insurance wouldn't cover her room if it didn't have its own lock.....


There are many advantages both ways regarding houses. It is nice to have the space to gather, to have the option to live in etc, but it can be expensive for the chapter, difficult to fill spaces and cause more drama than you can imagine...

I went to a school where there were fraternity houses but no such luck for teh sororities. Part of it has to do with the fact that most sororities on our campus and transfered over from locals around six to seven years ago. So none of our alumni are in the position to even try to buy us a house.

I didn't mind not living in a house because I think that would have deterred me from rushing but there are specific problems i saw with it. Since we were forced to live on a wing we also had independents living with us. This started some animosity from people who had to live in the "sorority hall" and didn't help to foster the strong hatred against greeks at my school.

The biggest problem though was having older people with enough experience on our e-boards. Since we were allowed to move off campus our senior year most people wanted to move out of the freshman sized dorm rooms so they wouldn't run for any positions when they were juniors. The rooming issue also keeps a lot of people from rushing as well since the sororities have, hands down, the shittiest dorm to live in if you're looking at it from an unbiased perspective. I personally had a blast and it helped me get to know all my sisters but i can see how it looked like it wouldn't be fun to others

Many of the laws concerning what can be hung in dormatories in RI stem from a fire in 1977 at Providence college which killed 10 young women.

Then fastforward to the Station Nightclub fire, which needlessly murdered 100 people and RI has gotten even more conserative in terms of fire safety.

Minneapolis's fire code does have that type of law, I believe no more than 3 people with different last names can live together. A few years ago, there was a fire and 3 students died, so they started strictly enforcing that law around campus, but not for the entire city. :rolleyes:

I've never heard of it being applied to sororities in Minneapolis though.

sorority houses and fraternity houses are illegal in San Francisco making it frustrating to have events

Let me guess - brothel law???
:D

First of all, that Nightclub fire was awful. And because of this, and many other factors, I'm not surprised that RI has more strict fire codes.

Secondly, my campus doesn't have houses. One of the fraternities has one off campus, and none of the 3 sororities have one.

But when I was active, there were 4 sisters who lived together in a house off campus, so it was kind of like our unofficial house. And there were also 4 girls who lived in an apartment on campus, so that gave us a good place to have some of our COB recruitment events and/or just to hang out and watch tv together. I almost think that it was a better situation because no one had to worry about the cost and upkeep of a sorority house.

I bet that thing could be NASCAR approved as a crash helmet:)