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PiKA2001 12-20-2005 09:17 PM

Colon Irrigation..please help
 
COLON IRRIGATION

I have been trying to get some info on this on the internet and I havent really found too much about it. It's when they shoot a hot wash up your ass to clean out all of the scud thats in your intestines and colon. Most doctors dont do it ( you have to go to a holistic medicine clinic to get it done usually ) I was wondering if anybody here has had the procedure.... If they felt better after and how much it cost them etc... Health Insurance doesnt cover it so cost is pretty important. Thank you.

winnieb 12-20-2005 09:20 PM

Wow- I am not sure if you will get many people admitting to having this done.
My grandmother goes to a holistic person to have this procedure and other (such as accupunture and candling) done. My grandmother swears by it....

Good luck with all that! or should I say "hope it comes out ok"

33girl 12-20-2005 09:28 PM

this is supposedly All The Rage for some Hollywood people. It's used as a weight loss method.

I know there's been articles on it in Elle and such.

Rudey 12-20-2005 09:32 PM

No you freak. What is wrong with you? One of the Damon brothers bragged about his enemas on Howard Stern once. Some people do it with coffee.

Again, I am going to repeat that you are a freak unconditionally.

-Rudey
--Like a 3 testicled lobster

ZTAngel 12-20-2005 10:57 PM

All the porn stars do it when they have to do scenes that involve that area of the body so that....er....stuff doesn't come out.

I dunno. I just can't imagine that it's too healthy. The body cleanses that stuff naturally. And what if you get an infection from the equipment that they use because someone forgot to clean something? That would suck if the equipment had some kind of parasite on it. You'd have a much bigger problem than before you walked in and that's not an area of my body that I'd want to have an oozy infection.

honeychile 12-20-2005 11:13 PM

I have a friend who has it done on a very regular basis due to a medical condition (I think it's because she's nuts!). Anyhow, it's more than "just" an enema - the sudsy stuff goes in, is flushed out, then fresh water goes in, then is flushed out - over and over for about a half an hour. I once read that Princess Diana & Sarah Ferguson were regulars at it.

I can't imagine that it could be too good for you, as it "only" takes care of the last 9 feet of your colon/intestines. It has to play havoc with your spincter muscles, and lessen your own body's ability to function properly.

You'd probably get as good a response by doubling your fiber intake.

BobbyTheDon 12-20-2005 11:27 PM

dude I thought the title of this thread was cologne irritation.


:(

UKTriDelt 12-21-2005 01:39 AM

What's the point in cleaning out an area that is absolutely guaranteed to get "dirty" pretty soon afterward?? I say there's a real reason that real doctors won't do it.

James 12-21-2005 05:46 AM

Real doctors used to believe that bleeding you and cuting crosses in your body would be good for you.

Luckily they don't anymore . . . but often times medical practices are determined by what is accepted or popular at the time versus what is actually useful.

But there are "real doctors" that do enemas.

Quote:

Originally posted by UKTriDelt
What's the point in cleaning out an area that is absolutely guaranteed to get "dirty" pretty soon afterward?? I say there's a real reason that real doctors won't do it.

AGDee 12-21-2005 07:35 AM

There are normal bacteria that make up the flora of your colon which assist you in digesting foods. If that normal balance of them gets messed up, you can have some very serious issues. Google on c-difficile and see if you would want to risk this...

ETA: The best way to keep your innards cleansed is to eat plenty of soluble fiber.

AchtungBaby80 12-21-2005 01:15 PM

Yeah, I've heard that this is not good for you. I'd rather not risk having something wrong with, er, that area, would you?

Better to just load up on the bran flakes.

honeychile 12-21-2005 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BobbyTheDon
dude I thought the title of this thread was cologne irritation.


:(

I think the cologne comes AFTER the colonics!

AOX81 12-21-2005 06:08 PM

My situation was slightly different but I had to have a colonoscopy a couple years ago for a medical problem and I had to drink the SUPER LAXATIVE FROM HELL! After not eating for 1 1/2-2 days and then cleaning myself out I lost 10 pounds. After the procedure I actually felt better and it seemed like things flowed through my system a lot better. I have heard about people having colonics done to help regulate themselves but it's not something that should be done all the time because it washes out the GOOD bacteria. Celebrities have it done to help them lose weight which I think that is the WRONG reason to have it done. I would suggest contacting a place that does colonic irrigation and ask questions. :)

FSUZeta 12-21-2005 06:16 PM

i have never had a colonic irrigation(and never would), but once i did have to have a barium enema so that x-rays could be made of my lower g.i. tract. it was the most unpleasant thing i have ever had done, (and i have birthed two kids, one without anesthesia).

aox81, i know what you mean. that stuff is the nastiest stuff ever invented. thank goodness we are knocked out for colonoscopies!

Dionysus 12-21-2005 06:24 PM

Upper GI's suck too. They make you drink cups of some nasty chalky foamy shit. Even worse, before the proceedure, they give you these sour crystals that make you uber gassy, but the radiologist tells to NOT to expell it. If you belch, you have to swallow some more crystals. Painful!

AOX81 12-21-2005 06:26 PM

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Originally posted by FSUZeta
aox81, i know what you mean. that stuff is the nastiest stuff ever invented. thank goodness we are knocked out for colonoscopies!
If they hadn't knocked me out I would not have had it done!

Tom Earp 12-21-2005 07:50 PM

If it is not necessary, just dont do it!



Did Three in 5 Days!

Got some graet pixs. Not going to frame them!:(

winnieb 12-21-2005 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dionysus
Upper GI's suck too. They make you drink cups of some nasty chalky foamy shit. Even worse, before the proceedure, they give you these sour crystals that make you uber gassy, but the radiologist tells to NOT to expell it. If you belch, you have to swallow some more crystals. Painful!
Sorry to hijack, I just have to say--- at 17 I had to have an upper GI, I drank the chalky crap, started gagging- then puked it up. I had the cup still- caught it in the cup, like a nice patient. Well the dumb tech forced me to drink it because "its too expensive to mix more" So I drank my chalky puke mixture-- got it half way down-start gagging-looked at the nurse and puked it all over her. She stormed out, a new tech came and got me new stuff. They finished the test. My mom was in the hallway when the first tech stormed out ranting about the stupid b!tch in the room! My mom asked what happened, I told her, hospital administration had a nice chat with my mom!

honeychile 12-21-2005 09:47 PM

FSUZeta & AOX81 - welcome to the sisterhood! I've had both procedures, and let me tell you, it's a special type of horrible! I had to drink the icky stuff twice (to find out that I have had so many ulcers, I have scar tissue in my stomach!), and as for the other end, let's just say that the doctor was so sadistic, not only did I not get any sort of aenestectic (sp?), but he also said, and I quote, "You girls like this!" prior to using any apparatus.

I was so glad to hear that he's now in prison - and I hope he's grown to "like it"!

FSUZeta 12-21-2005 10:08 PM

lord a mercy honeychile!! i hope he is in prison for a nice long time!!

honeychile 12-21-2005 10:15 PM

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Originally posted by FSUZeta
lord a mercy honeychile!! i hope he is in prison for a nice long time!!
That makes two of us! The only problem is, I need to find a new doctor, and I'm terrified of going through "that" again!

Peaches-n-Cream 12-21-2005 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AGDee
There are normal bacteria that make up the flora of your colon which assist you in digesting foods. If that normal balance of them gets messed up, you can have some very serious issues. Google on c-difficile and see if you would want to risk this...

ETA: The best way to keep your innards cleansed is to eat plenty of soluble fiber.

I know someone who had c-difficile colitis from taking antibiotics. It took almost a year to get rid of it. She still cannot take antibiotics two and a half years later.

pinkyphimu 12-21-2005 11:55 PM

someone i work with has them once a month or so. she said she feels better and likes that her stomach is flatter after this procedure.

she is a massage therapist and the school she went to trains people to do this. she goes there and said that if you use a student, it is $35 and if you use a "professional" (for lack of a better term), then it is $65. she also said that all of the hoses and stuff are not reused between patients. i don't know how they actually clean the machine, but i can ask her if you really want.

honeychile 12-22-2005 12:06 AM

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Originally posted by Peaches-n-Cream
I know someone who had c-difficile colitis from taking antibiotics. It took almost a year to get rid of it. She still cannot take antibiotics two and a half years later.
c-dif is terribly hard on the body, and to get rid of. My understanding is that people who enter a hospital has a 10% chance of catching it.

My uncle shared a hospital room with a man with it this summer. After seeing the nurses or aides without gloves treat that man, then try to move to my uncle, we just started a 24-hour vigil to make sure that NO ONE without universal precautions got anywhere near him. He did catch one infection, though. He's 6'3" and usually about 130-140. He's now 110# and can't handle solids after six months! Grrrrr.....

ragtimerose 12-22-2005 06:14 AM

I had to drink that chalky barium stuff before getting a CAT scan a few years ago. Nasty, nasty, NASTY!

I'm getting to the age where I'll need a colonoscopy as a matter of routine (every few years?). I understand the prep is worse than the actual procedure. Thank goodness they put you under for that.

Me, I'll just eat more fiber.

AGDee 12-22-2005 07:51 AM

I had c-diff and my first flare of Crohn's for two years before being diagnosed. I know firsthand how nasty it is. There are Crohn's theories that an infection like c-diff actually brings on Crohn's. It's a logical theory, because your body's immune system would work like crazy to get rid of the infection and then something goes haywire and won't quit once the c-diff is gone. C-diff mimics ulcerative colitis so you absorb very little of your food.

Needless to say, with Crohn's and a family history of colon cancer, I get annual colonoscopies and upper GIs. I now get sick from the colonoscopy prep and I always gag on the barium from the upper GIs. They are all hellacious tests.

honeychile... definitely find a new doctor. I've not had one be so harsh. I have to go to a new GI in January because of insurance changes, which upsets me, but I can't imagine a doctor having the attitude that yours did.

C-diff is similar to a yeast infection in how you get it from taking mega doses of antibiotics. There are all types of natural and normal bacteria in your system. They keep each other in check. When you are on massive doses of antibiotics, they can become imbalanced as some of the good bacteria are killed off. Others become too strong and take over. Thankfully, Flagyl got rid of my c-diff pretty quickly but also gave me Thrush. After my re-section, I was on huge doses of antibiotics again, including Flagyl, and got Thrush again. Next time I am on Flagyl, I will be talking with the doc about preventing the Thrush!

Peaches-n-Cream 12-22-2005 02:21 PM

Oh Dee, that's awful. Maybe taking acidophilus will prevent thrush.

Initially in May '03, the doctors weren't sure if the c-difficile would cause permanent colitis or Crohn's, but it didn't. She was not allowed to take antibiotics until a few days ago when she had some dental work. The dentist and doctor talked and decided that she could handle three days of antibiotics combined with probiotic acidophilus which she also had to take while treating the c-difficile. Fortunately, there are no signs of a problem, but everyone held their breath. The upsetting thing is this c-difficile might have been avoided if the doctor had told her to take acidophilus while taking antibiotics for a sinus infection back in May '03.

IIOA 12-22-2005 02:37 PM

The purpose of a "cleansing" of the colon is, with standard medical practice, in preparation for a colonoscopy and/or surgery of the colon or for removal of impacted fecal matter. *YUM* None of the gastroenterologists or colo-rectal surgeons I know do these for any other reason that I can think of offhand.

Someone asked why clean something that is going to get dirty again. While this is the same argument I present when it comes to making my bed, there is some logic to it when it comes to intestinal health. You cannot sterilize your colon indefinitely.

I seem to recall one of my attendings docs while in training talking about the old, old days when the logic was that since the colon "contains toxins", people were undergoing total colectomies to just remove it altogether.

I fail to see how undergoing a water or coffee enema for "cleansing" accomplishes much more than a placebo effect (aside from some weight loss). Certainly I doubt that the benefits are worth the discomfort. When patients ask me if I've ever had a colonoscopy I give them an fake horrified look and say "hell no, I'd never do that to myself - what, are you crazy?"

AchtungBaby80 12-22-2005 05:43 PM

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Originally posted by honeychile
let's just say that the doctor was so sadistic, not only did I not get any sort of aenestectic (sp?), but he also said, and I quote, "You girls like this!" prior to using any apparatus.

I was so glad to hear that he's now in prison - and I hope he's grown to "like it"!

I wish you'd kicked him in the nuts. :p Seriously.

irishpipes 12-22-2005 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ZTAngel
All the porn stars do it when they have to do scenes that involve that area of the body so that....er....stuff doesn't come out.
1. Why do you know that?

2. My old country immigrant grandmother used to want to give us enemas all the time when we were kids. My siblings and I were all asthmatics, and she (in very broken English) would start in with the "we have to get the poison out! Whoosh! Whoosh!"

AGDee 12-22-2005 07:16 PM

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Originally posted by Peaches-n-Cream
Oh Dee, that's awful. Maybe taking acidophilus will prevent thrush.

Acidophilus helps. It is best in the form of yogurt for thrush though, since it's in the mouth and can work topically. I just painted my tongue with yogurt the first time and would let it sit for a while. The second time, I couldn't take anything by mouth because I'd just had 2 1/2 feet of intestine removed so I was on IVs only, no ice, nothing. I was begging for ice because my tongue and throat hurt and the doc looked and said "That's cuz you have thrush!". Oh joy! I had a mouth wash type med for that.. swish and spit.

Gosh I hope I never need another resection..lol. That wasn't fun at all. But, on the 5th day post surgery, I got the best grape popsicle I ever tasted in my life!


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