"Hate Crimes at Columbia Must End"
 

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/loca...p-317093c.html

(there are some hints in the article that the two perps are SPE members)

2 Columbia students face rap in hate scrawl

BY KATHLEEN LUCADAMO
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER

Two Columbia University students have been busted for allegedly scribbling swastikas on a dormitory wall in the latest racial incident to rock the Ivy League school.

Matthew Brown, 20, and Stephen Searles, 19, were charged with criminal mischief after students fingered them as the hands behind a hate crime in Ruggles Hall, police said.

The duo reportedly used red and blue markers to line a suite hallway with swastikas, homophobic slurs and racial epithets on Friday, students said. Four women live in the suite, including a lesbian and a student involved in an interracial relationship.

Re: "Hate Crimes at Columbia Must End"
 

Wow. You always hope that people who are supposed to be smart and educated are, well, actually smart and educated ... That's really horrible.

What a shame that two Young "Men" Would do this!

Imature as it sounds, it does happen!:(

One just wonders what kind of Home Life and upbringing they had!:rolleyes:


Ignorance at its worst!:eek:

Re: "Hate Crimes at Columbia Must End"
 

The Balanced Man Award can be won by non-SPE folks I believe...

-Rudey

"The latest incident sparked a student-sponsored rally last night where groups expressed their concern. "Hate Crimes at Columbia Must End," one flyer read."


Such overreaction is so typical at Columbia. The maker of the flyer makes it sound like things like this happen every day but I highly doubt it since that campus is the most over-the-top politically correct place I have ever visited in my life.

Take a trip to Berkeley and UMich or any of those weird liberal arts schools where the women have facial hair too.

-Rudey

Well, the article said it was the fifth this year. How many hate crimes do you think it takes before wanting them to end is an "overreaction"?

I think ONE incident is enough to react like that. I'd flip if something like this happened at my school right now.

I agree ...

/hijack

At my school, there were these signs and chalkings saying "IWM" all over the place last month. I've noticed this happening before and always been confused, since it never says what it stands for. So today in class, a girl told us she found out that it stands for "International Wigger Month" - have any of you ever heard of this, or is this just something idiots on my campus do?

The article that's linked in Hoosier's initial post says this is the 4th this year, so that means an average of one every 3 months. (or, using your statistics, one every 2.4 months). Hardly an epidemic.

Ah, okay. One hate crime every three months is your level of acceptable.

If it wasn't a hate crime against a stranger, but a vandalism of your own home, would once every three months still be okey dokey with you? Or would you maybe find one instance one too many?

I may be wrong in this interpretation but, Want to Be a N----(Black). I have heard this many times and it is because of certain actions by individuals.


It is never alright!

This is supposed to be a School of Higher Learning with a Great Reputation?

Something is defentely wrong there.

No, of course it isn't acceptable. But one hate crime every three months is hardly a sign that the world's gone mad. I am fairly certain that people are not skulking around the Upper West Side paralyzed by fear of magic-marker wielding madmen.

That's like saying that since the lifetime odds of being killed by a wasp, bee or hornet sting are about 69,000:1, then something must be done about this horrible stinging insect plague that is sweeping the country.

Even one person dying from a bee sting is too many but it does not mean that there is a bee epidemic out there.

And even one person having their dorm/home/hallway vandalized is too many but it simply does not make it an epidemic.

I don't think any of the protesters were saying it was an epidemic, but that it should end. There is a difference.

And racists have a bit more accountability than bees.

I gotta agree - if this latest incident was an indication of what happens on average once every three months, there is a serious problem with hate at the school.

That's ok, we don't all have to agree :)

I was under the impression that it stood for "Incomprehensible Widespread Message." Actually, i think it was just a dumb prank making fun of the extensive chalking used by some groups. Unless given more evidence to substantiate your meaning, that remains my opinion.

even if it was happening everyday, someone would spout off about how it isn't happening every hour.

to whom?

someone who isn't the victim or to someone who is?

lessons on perspective for 500, alex?

I hope that's what it means - where did you hear that? I've been confused everytime they've done it, lol.

It's not an inclusive statement; I meant to anyone.

That's ridiculous and you know it.

don't act like it wouldn't happen.

in fact, these days...it's more prevalent than you would expect.

well, to someone who isn't the victim...do you honestly think that your opinion would actually matter on these things?

i'd listen to someone who had this happen to them vs. someone who didn't.

i don't think your opinion would actually be representative of hate crime victims.

I have to admit I'm upset that anyone would say it's not that big of a deal. I guess it's a case of actually having to live through racial and homophobic slurs in order to understand the feeling one would get to have their place of residence VANDALIZED for all to see.

Recently racial slurs were graffiti-ed onto the walls of a prominent, very racially inclusive church in Tallahassee. It just comes to show you we haven't progressed as a society as much as we pride ourselves after all.

Do you really think you know enough about my life to surmise what I may or may not have fallen victim to in the past? Or is it an unsupported assumption you're making based on my opinion regarding the magic marker men?

You don't have the right to lecture me on perspective.

That said, I feel like this exchange between two people who always know they're correct is pretty fruitless so we'll have to agree that we don't agree and move on. :)

If I had to bet, I would agree with you.

I want to see what classifies as a hate crime.

Nobody knows what is happening yet they're all screaming about the epidemic at large in this University. How about you all actually look into it and then make your judgement. Bandwagons are senseless.

And Columbia students should be smarter than this, or, better phrased, they shouldn't be as stupid as this.

-Rudey

i'm not talkin about you, but you weren't the victim in this particular case. don't take it personal, it's the net.

i personally don't really care whether or not you've ever been a victim or racial hate crimes in the past, but somehow i doubt it. either way, you don't have the right to tell anyone how much is too much if they're the victim.

sounds pretty common place for somewhere that's supposed to be an elite institution of of higher "edumacation."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_crime

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=hate%20crime

not the most reputable for the GC source nazi's, but a definition.

if everyone ignores this, its not an issue,

I know Columbia is a big SEC deep south powerhouse deeply induated in racism, the problem is incredibly pressing and widespread.

If everyone ignores YOU will YOU not be an issue?

Exactly. If everyone just ignores the incident, people will realize that its harder to get a rise out of an entire PC student body.

Its called turning the other cheek, and its always worked for me.

Columbia is neither in the Deep South or SEC - it's located in New York City.

Sarcasm is neither understood nor appreciated - it's written anyway.

I couldn't tell if you were being sarcastic or if you were referring to the University of South Carolina (although I've never heard it called Columbia).

they're in new york

read the 3 posts above.

they're in new york

yeah, I was being sarcastic, it was a joke...

I don't think that ignoring it will make it go away or stop it from escalating. The jump from posturing extremism to acting upon extremist influences is very slight. By calling for investigation, those responsible are identified, and can be monitored and avoided by those they would target. Symbolic propaganda can turn into a rallying cry for target recruitment individuals...a swastika appears, and some poor dumb college student feeling victimized seeks out the group and becomes one of their brainwashed lackeys.

And for reference, here is a map of the monitored hate groups in NY and areas, provided by the Southern Poverty Law Center.
http://www.splcenter.org/intel/map/hate.jsp?S=NY&m=3
http://www.splcenter.org/intel/map/hate.jsp?S=NJ&m=3 (WOW jersey...)