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RACooper 12-04-2005 10:55 AM

Ever wonder how you'd vote in Canada?
 
Well, I have seen a number of threads that rate your political leanings with regard to the past US elections... so here is one for the upcoming Canadian elections (also known as Elexmas :D):

Basically it is a quiz in which you choose to agree or disagree with issues; or you can chose to ignore a statement with which you neither agree with nor disagree with - and then finding out which leader/party you agreed with.

Just leave the four parties selected for the best restults (sorry no Greens).

Quiz:
http://www.votebyissue.org/cbc/q.aspx?q=3

RACooper 12-04-2005 11:15 AM

As for me:

If I pick agree or disagree with every issue:
Paul Martin - agreed on 12 issues
Jack Layton - agreed on 9 issues
Gilles Duceppe - agreed on 5 issues
and poor ol' Stephen Harper - agreed on 3 issues


If I only agree with one statement/issue:
Paul Martin - agreed on 9 issues
Jack Layton - agreed on 2 issues (health care & economic growth)
Gilles Duceppe - agreed on 1 issue (gun control)
Stepen Harpen - zero

hmmm.... looks like I'm voting Liberal unless the party platforms shift - or more issues are introduced.

Taualumna 12-04-2005 12:49 PM

Taualumna agreed with... (I left out Bloc):

Jack Layton on 8 issues

Paul Martin on 11

Stephen Harper on 9


...disagreed with...

Layton:4

Martin: 1

Harper: 3

Neutral:

0 for all three

RACooper 12-04-2005 01:39 PM

I left the Bloc in for sheer interest sake - I founf it interesting that I agreed with some of their polices more than I did Harper's... which given my distaste for the Bloc was surprising.

Sistermadly 12-04-2005 07:26 PM

I answered all 12 areas. I agreed with:

Stephen Harper on 6 issues (Farming, Relations with the provinces, Foreign Aid, Taxes, National Security, Healthcare Funding)

Jack Layton (that hottie!) on 9 issues (Employment Insurance, Farming, Relations with the provinces, Gun Control, Foreign Aid, Taxes, National Security, Defence Spending, Economic Growth)

Gilles Duceppe on 8 issues (Employment Insurance, Foreign Aid, Taxes, Child Care, National Security, Defence Spending, Economic Growth, Healthcare Funding)

Paul Martin on 8 issues (Employment Insurance, Farming, Relations with the provinces, Gun Control, Foreign Aid, Child Care, National Security, Economic Growth)

I disagreed with:
Stephen Harper on 6 issues (Employment Insurance, Gun Control, Parliamentary Reform, Child Care, Defence Spending, Economic Growth)

Jack Layton on 3 issues (Parliamentary Reform, Child Care, Healthcare Funding)

Gilles Duceppe on 4 issues (Farming, Relations with the provinces, Gun Control, Parliamentary Reform)

Paul Martin on 4 issues (Parliamentary Reform, Taxes, Defence Spending, Healthcare Funding)

So as someone from the outside who will soon be a Canadian citizen, what do you guys think this makes me?

NeonPi 12-04-2005 08:15 PM

You sound like you could have a tough time between NDP and Liberal

Quote:

Originally posted by Sistermadly

So as someone from the outside who will soon be a Canadian citizen, what do you guys think this makes me?


NeonPi 12-04-2005 08:24 PM

Here we go ... (did all 4)

AGREED
------------------------
Paul Martin on 10

Stephen Harper on 10

Jack Layton on 9 issues

Gilles Duceppe on 7


DISAGREED
--------------------
Martin: 1

Harper: 2

Layton:3

Duceppe: 5


NEUTRAL
-----------------

Martin: 1

Zero for the others

Sistermadly 12-04-2005 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NeonPi
You sound like you could have a tough time between NDP and Liberal
That's what I figured. I'm going to be joining a party pretty soon, and I'm having a hard time coming to a final decision.

RACooper 12-04-2005 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sistermadly
That's what I figured. I'm going to be joining a party pretty soon, and I'm having a hard time coming to a final decision.
Hehe... sorry - but that was a very American statement to make: "join a party"... about the only people who do that up here do so to actually get involved either helping a candidate or as a candidate themselves.

But then again who I am to talk...

Taualumna 12-04-2005 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RACooper
Hehe... sorry - but that was a very American statement to make: "join a party"... about the only people who do that up here do so to actually get involved either helping a candidate or as a candidate themselves.

But then again who I am to talk...

I guess I'm weird then...I joined a party at 19 and didn't get involved with any candidate until about two years ago. But I'm not very "Canadian" to begin with!

Lady Pi Phi 12-04-2005 11:29 PM

I agreed with:

Gilles Duceppe on 8 issues

Jack Layton on 10 issues

Paul Martin on 8 issues

Stephen Harper on 9 issues


I disagreed with:

Gilles Duceppe on 4 issues

Jack Layton on 2 issues

Paul Martin on 4 issues

Stephen Harper on 3 issues.


According to this is should be voting NDP...

NOT BLOODY LIKELY!!!!!

Lady Pi Phi 12-04-2005 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RACooper
Hehe... sorry - but that was a very American statement to make: "join a party"... about the only people who do that up here do so to actually get involved either helping a candidate or as a candidate themselves.

But then again who I am to talk...

I have to agree with Rob on this one.

I haven't found many Canadians that have actually joined a party.

Although, I was myself considering joining the Greens. I will never vote for any of those other parties again (well maybe Conservative if they get rid of Harper) and don't even get me started on why I don't think the Bloc should be be allowed to run in Federal elections!

Sistermadly 12-05-2005 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RACooper
Hehe... sorry - but that was a very American statement to make: "join a party"... about the only people who do that up here do so to actually get involved either helping a candidate or as a candidate themselves.

...and that's exactly my intention.

KillarneyRose 12-05-2005 01:55 PM

I agreed mostly with Jack Layton, but I have no idea who he is or what he stands for! I would guess a strong national defense?

bcdphie 12-05-2005 04:17 PM

I decided to redo the quiz, with all 4 leaders this time - here's my outcome...

I agreed with:

Paul Martin on 10 issues:
Taxes, Child Care, Relations with the provinces, National Security, Gun Control, Farming, Employment Insurance, Economic Growth, Healthcare Funding, Defence Spending

Stephen Harper on 6 issues:
Taxes, Child Care, Foreign Aid, Gun Control, Farming, Healthcare Funding

Jack Layton on 11 issues:
Taxes, Parliamentary Reform, Child Care, Relations with the provinces, National Security, Foreign Aid, Gun Control, Farming, Employment Insurance, Economic Growth, Defence Spending

Gilles Duceppe on 6 issues:
on 6 issues Taxes, Child Care, National Security, Gun Control, Healthcare Funding, Defence Spending

I disagreed with:

Paul Martin on 2 issues:
Parliamentary Reform, Foreign Aid

Stephen Harper on 6 issues:
Parliamentary Reform, Relations with the provinces, National Security, Employment Insurance, Economic Growth, Defence Spending

Jack Layton on 1 issue:
Healthcare Funding

Gilles Duceppe on 6 issues:
Parliamentary Reform, Relations with the provinces, Foreign Aid, Farming, Employment Insurance, Economic Growth

Now according to this I should be voting Liberal or NDP. Hell would have to freeze over before I vote NDP, either Federally or Provincially...

Taualumna 12-05-2005 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lady Pi Phi
I have to agree with Rob on this one.

I haven't found many Canadians that have actually joined a party.

Although, I was myself considering joining the Greens. I will never vote for any of those other parties again (well maybe Conservative if they get rid of Harper) and don't even get me started on why I don't think the Bloc should be be allowed to run in Federal elections!

well, some kids on campuses will join youth wings of political parties without the intention of helping a candidate because they cannot vote for that candidate (since their official address is not the school's).

Lady Pi Phi 12-05-2005 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KillarneyRose
I agreed mostly with Jack Layton, but I have no idea who he is or what he stands for! I would guess a strong national defense?
For your reference...

the NDP are socialist...well not in the true sense of the word but they are our most left wing party.

Also (and keep in mind this is basic):

Stephen Harper (Conservative Party): conservative

Paul Martin (Liberal Party): liberal

Jack Layton (NDP - New Democratic Party): socialist

Gilles Duceppe (Bloc Qubecois): seperatist

Lady Pi Phi 12-05-2005 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Taualumna
well, some kids on campuses will join youth wings of political parties without the intention of helping a candidate because they cannot vote for that candidate (since their official address is not the school's).
That's true, but I would venture to guess that if we polled the population, the majority of people are not official members of a political party.

RACooper 12-05-2005 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KillarneyRose
I agreed mostly with Jack Layton, but I have no idea who he is or what he stands for! I would guess a strong national defense?
Interesting... I always pictured you as a staunch conservative - who knew that unionist/socialist/enivromentalist bent was hiding in the shadows ;)

As for National Defense I'd say Jack is only slightly stronger than the Seperatists. But he is all about increasing the wage and quality of life for soldiers and their families...

KillarneyRose 12-06-2005 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RACooper
Interesting... I always pictured you as a staunch conservative - who knew that unionist/socialist/enivromentalist bent was hiding in the shadows ;)


Nooooooooooooooooo! Don't let this get out, Rob; it'll ruin me! ;)

madmax 12-06-2005 04:21 PM

Re: Ever wonder how you'd vote in Canada?
 
no

RACooper 12-06-2005 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KillarneyRose
Nooooooooooooooooo! Don't let this get out, Rob; it'll ruin me! ;)
I'll let it slide ;) After all you are used to a 2-party system that isn't quite so complicated or fluid in election issues...

RACooper 12-08-2005 12:22 PM

Damn... some of the election stuff is actually getting interesting now.

- Gille Duceppe is completely candid on the CBC about the platform of the Bloc (looking out for Quebec, if that means seperation it means seperation, but he'd rather Quebec had semi-autonomy like Scotland)

- and now Paul Martin promising a sweeping ban on handguns; no longer restricted or prohibited - but banned for all civilians... it's an interesting strategy... and I'm sure the good'ol boys from the NRA will be making another foray north of the border again. It makes the Liberals look stronger on gun control and crime, but will alienate those pushing for easing gun restrictions (ie. many of the former Alliance party). But if Harper tries to cash in on the alienation it'll be playing into the hands of the other three parties...

bcdphie 12-08-2005 04:19 PM

There's been 5 shootings in the last week alone in Vancouver, and I know TO has had its fair share of shootings this year - in a nutshell, I'm all for banning guns.

Taualumna 12-08-2005 04:32 PM

But banning guns will just put more in the black market. I don't think it'll lower the gun rate all that much.

Lady Pi Phi 12-08-2005 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bcdphie
There's been 5 shootings in the last week alone in Vancouver, and I know TO has had its fair share of shootings this year - in a nutshell, I'm all for banning guns.
I think that "fair share" might be a bit of an understatement. It's getting pretty bad here right now. Last I heard the murder rate for thise was around 70 and most of them have been shooting deaths (some where around 50).

I'm all for a complete ban (though I will NEVER vote Liberal anyway). If there is not a complete ban, then something definitly needs to be done about the gun registry system.

RACooper 12-08-2005 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bcdphie
There's been 5 shootings in the last week alone in Vancouver, and I know TO has had its fair share of shootings this year - in a nutshell, I'm all for banning guns.
I'm all for it as well - absolutely no reason why civilians need handguns.

I would however like to see what the proposed stiffer penalties for illegal ownership or gun violence are - along of course with the RCMP's plan to crack down on smuggling of handguns from the US.


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