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Report Outlines Alleged Gang Rape At UTC
posted November 1, 2005

The 18-year-old female bringing allegations of gang rape against seven UTC football players said she was carried into Boling Apartments "due to her intoxicated state."

UTC on Monday released the full report in the case.

It says the young woman gave the report on Sunday afternoon, Oct. 23, of the incident that occurred early Friday morning, Oct. 21. She said it happened between 2:30 and 4:30 in the morning at Room 202 of Boling Apartments.

She said that on Thursday night and early Friday morning, she attended a party with friends at the Lambda Chi Fraternity and consumed bottled alcoholic beverages. She said that between 1:30 and 2 a.m., a large group of UTC football players came inside to join the party.


She said that during the course of the party, she became separated from her friends. The party began to break up around 2:30 to 3 a.m.

She said that as the party was breaking up, Terrence Thomas told her he would take her home. She said Adam Daigler drove both of them back to Boling Apartments and he left.

She said Thomas carried her up to his apartment and took her to his bedroom, where he said she could sleep. She said he laid her on the bed and took off all of her clothes.

She said she noticed that Thomas also took off his clothes and was standing beside the bed having sex with her while she lay sideways on the bed.

She said he stopped a short time later, then he had a conversation with some other males who were standing inside his bedroom watching.

She said she then "became very scared and defensive as the other 7-10 males present in Room 202 began taking turns having sex with her."

She said she was able to get off the bed and make it to the restroom, "fending off males trying to enter the restroom."

She said she then tried to go back to the bedroom to retrieve her clothing, but was forced into the common area "where the 7-10 males once again forced sexual acts upon her including unwanted and forced oral sex."

She said she began hitting the males in an attempt to get them to stop and recalls hitting Thomas repeatedly during the encounter. She said she possibly hit another male as well.

She said one of the males hit her, but she does not recall who it was.

She said she then was taken back into Thomas' bedroom, where he and others performed unwanted sexual acts on her again.

She said afterwards, Thomas threw her clothes at her, telling her to put them on.

She said she was then driven to UTC Place and left there.

This is an awful story and God forbid it being true for this poor girl. But does anyone else read anything odd into it? Like was she given GHB or something? Perhaps it is just the way the author wrote it, but it sounds odd. That's just me anyway....

Definitely...

She noticed that he was having sex with her???????????????????????????????????? That is the craziest line I've ever heard. This is a crazy report.

By the way, I'm not intending to downplay the seriousness of any rape report, but how does a woman get oral sex forced on her?

If everything here is true and upfront, it is written very strangely. Strange enough to cause some doubts perhaps.

I thought it was just me that had to read that part more than once. :confused:

This is written strangely and if its true - poor girl. :(

I believe they meant they forced her to perform oral sex on them.

I think the question still remains-she could just not open her mouth or at least bite down in defense!

But, having never been in such a situation, I can imagine that if the threat was large enough, a woman would comply with the demand. And I'd say 7 men is a large enough threat!

If she bites down on one, there are 6 others. One could have pried her jaw open. She could have been screaming for help and had it shoved in.

Things happen in rape cases that are really unimaginable to most of us (and I hope that they stay that way).

I know -- I mean why couldn't she just not do it?

Because there were 7-10 men in the room. NO ONE CAN OVERPOWER 7-10 MEN.

Here is an example of what happened:

Poor girl who got raped: No, you jerk! I won't perform oral sex on you.
Man who wants oral sex: PUNCHES
Man 1: PUNCHES
Man 2: KICKS
Man 3: HOLDS ARMS
Man 4: HOLDS LEGS
Man 5: PUNCHES
Man 6: GRABS HEAD
Man 7: Says "DO IT BITCH!"

Hey! Yes - that's what I meant. And having personal experience with a frighteningly abusive man, you CAN refuse oral sex, even if you are being beaten and knocked in the face.

It's a lot harder to fend off vaginal sex if someone (or lots of someones) is holding you down. I've never be *raped* in that sense but I've definitely had sex attempted to be forced on me with significant violence involved. I just didn't do it even though I got beat down. You always have a choice. I'll tell you this, I KNOW that a man by himself would have to kill me before I'd allow anything like that to happen. But, if it's a group of men, I could only fight my hardest and hope I get away.

Unfortunately, in her case, she wasn't in complete control of her faculties with the alcohol in her system.

It could be argued, and probably has been, that a reasonable woman would not fight 7-10 males and come out on top. It even says she TRIED TO FIGHT THEM OFF.

I cannot believe that rather than having compassion for this poor violated woman, y'all are saying she didn't do enough.

Very oddly written...

But, if the school and the police treat football players there like they do here nothing will happen to them.

It says that he took off her clothes.

You can be drunk enough to be slipping in and out of consciousness and not fully aware or observant of your surroundings.

Out of control drunk, naked and surrounded by men who are much bigger and stronger than you, terrified, possibly for your life...

Some of you are being very judgmental about how people react in a situation like this.

How horrifying for this young woman. I hope she is able to recover.

Dee

Hoosier can you please link to the original story so we can see who actually writes this bad. If this is true, I hope this girl gets the counseling she needs and those involved are punished.

In a majority of rape situations, refusing to comply further increases the violence and the amount of time the victim is with her attacker(s). Sometimes it does lead to death. If it were that easy to just say no and walk away untouched don't you think she would have?

If you are very drunk and/or drugged, it's highly possible that it would take you a while to notice a guy having sex with you. There have been one or two instances where I was very drunk and kissing a guy, and god, I would have had no clue had he tried to pull anything else. I was barely conscious!

Large amounts of alcohol or drugs would also affect your thought process on how to react . But, as GP is pointing out, if you're in a room with 10 football players, I don't think it's the best idea ever to bite.

You guys are just spitting out variations on the Italian "It's not rape if you're wearing pants" rule and that's ridiculous.

As I read the story, he carried her to his room, laid her on his bed and he took her clothes off. After that, she "noticed" that he had taken off his clothes and was having sex with her. It doesn't say that she resisted in any way, which makes you think of possible drug involvement. Or, it could even have been consensual up to that point. In fact, there is no mention in the article of her putting up any defense until the other seven or so men got involved.

IF the article is anywhere close to accurate, this is a very strange situation that leaves more questions than answers.

One thing is for sure, there's no way a woman (or a man, for that matter) is going to fight off seven football players. That's movie stuff.

The other thing for sure is that a serious crime was committed. I don't think this one could be swept under the carpet by the university or athletic department. Unless there's something really bizarre that we just don't know. I can't even imagine what that might be.

ETA that I got a phone call in the middle of writing this and several posts were made which make this kind of redundant. Sorry.

This situation (if it, in fact, occurred) is CLEARLY rape and each of the players should not only be expelled from school but should also be prosecuted.

My complaint with this report is that it paints an unbelievable scene.

And, my comments about oral sex were a side observation. Maybe she could have been forced to perform oral sex.

PEOPLE MUST STOP DRINKING THEMSELVES INTO A STUPOR. It's foolish and dangerous because people will take advantage of you.

You can't control others but you can control yourself. So, while her drunkeness certainly DID NOT warrant or invite rape, if she had been smarter about her drinking choices, we wouldn't be reading a report like this.

What if she was drugged?

Then it was her fault for being at a party and not church. :rolleyes:

Indeed, but the article states that she drank from bottles. And I said, She was smart to go for bottles, especially if she picked and opened them herself. Still, BE SMART about drinking choices.

Naw chile - you can get in trouble in church too! "Christians" are the worst for devious behavior. This girl acted foolishly and was attacked (again, if the report is true) by horrible men who took advantage of her and raped her, plain and simple.

You can still be drugged if someone puts something in your bottle. Unless it's glued to your mouth the whole time, that would be possible to do.

You can hold onto it the whole time, never let it out of your sight...all freshmen should go through basic alcohol awareness seminars!! I was present at one where they said 1) pick your own drink, 2) only drink from unopened bottles or bring your own beverages (never let anyone bring you a drink), 3) keep your drink with you at all time - don't set it down or let anyone hold it, etc.

Didn't anyone else get this information?? It couldn't have just been me.

Yes, Jeni, but see, life is never absolute.

I've got my bottle of Triple Black. It's in my hand. It never leaves my hand. I go out to the dance floor because I am suddenly overwhelmed with the urge to shake it like a saltshaker. While I am dancing, my Triple Black is in my hand. This is a fraternity basement. It is not well lit with ample room to dance. My body is being brushed against by at least 4 other people at all times. While I bend over to the front and touch the toes, I bump into sketchy Joe Runningback. He slips a clear, colorless, pill into my bottle in a naonsecond. How do I know this?

I googled gang rape UTC and found a few articles.

http://www.newschannel9.com/engine.p...ormat=%M+%e,%Y

http://www.chattanoogan.com/articles/article_74901.asp

http://www.chattanoogan.com/articles/article_75089.asp


Jeni, when I was in college and even before, I knew not to accept drinks from strangers and not to leave my drink alone. I went to a party, got my own drink, and held on to it while I talked to a guy. When I turned my head for a second or two, the guy poured some clear liquid in my drink. Luckily, I saw it out of the corner of my eye, got rid of the drink, and got away from him. I wasn't drunk or even close to it. I turned my head because his friend distracted me. I think he poured alcohol in my drink, not a drug.

At the time I didn't really appreciate what could have happened to me. I never thought it could be anything other than alcohol. I just thought that he was a jerk and I had better get away from him. It is possible for someone to tamper with your drink.

This is what I'm talking about.

Yes. Exactly.

I never said she didn't do enough-I think you totally misread my post & didn't pay attention to everything I said:

I agree. Things happen very quickly.

hijack - My new favorite Quote of the Day.

http://www.siyclone.com/forum//style...spitcoffee.gif

It might be that the person who wrote the article, decided to write in a manner that would cast doubt on the girl and her allegations.

I don't think we should be criticizing the young lady. Yes she did perhaps not make the wisest decisions. But I to have made some decisions that were equally bad (in some cases worst). When I was young I put myself in some shady situations, and I was lucky...
Being drunk is not an invitation to be raped or otherwise taken advantage of. It is considered rape in NC to have sex with a person while they are drunk... We talked about it in my Health education class. You can not consent to sex if you are not semi concious or passed out.

Lets not blame the alledged victim...
we make people aware of how to be safer... but you know you are never truely safe.

Big Co-sign

When I pledged we had a CDC (chapter Development Co-ordinator) who stress the importance of the watching over your sisters and who you came with to all of us new members.
I was in a colony had usurped a local... and all of the older girls also stressed this to us.
I just think it is important to realized that the girl is a victim.

i'm a little appalled (okay... a lot) after reading the responses in this thread. a lot of people had some ugly things to say about forced oral sex and how SHE should have been more careful.

please read and reread this thread as many times as neccessary until people realize what has been said. many people deal with rape differently (during AND after) and they are no less of a rape victim for that. and blaming alcohol serves one REALLY GOOD purpose - helping people maintain their just world view...

sorry for my soapbox -

- marissa

No one posting here has even hinted that the activity described in the report wasn't rape. Those you are reacting to are expressing serious concern at the lack of judgment among young people who put themselves in the way of horrible people who would take advantage of them, as well as disgust for those horrible people.

On the oral sex topic, that was a side conversation and was basically irrelevant to the report itself. Those comments asked how is oral sex forced on someone.

ETA: You know what? No, let me get on my soapbox. I, as much as anyone else posting here, want to run and give that girl as much love and care and understanding as she needs while she works through this experience.

I do not blame her for the actions imposed on her. However, we MUST educate our young people to these dangers and make every attempt to make them understand the world as it is.

No one here can say that if she hadn't been at the party in the first place this wouldn't have happened. That is not a religious-based assessment in the least. It's plain and simple truth. As I've already said in here, IF you're going to party and have fun, KNOW how the world is and protect yourself.

I quoted a comment from one of the links posted earlier where the girl said she bemoaned the fact that the students hadn't been properly warned. That is EVERYONE's fault.

I am horrified over some of the responses in this thread.

And people, keep in mind that hoosier doesn't ever post links to his articles, and doesn't always pick the most well-written ones, at that.

It's an interesting dichotmy between this thread, where so many people are saying the girl didn't do enough to protect herself, and the other thread where we've been discussing 3rd party vendors and alcohol policies.