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thaloccsta 10-08-2005 01:30 PM

Chico State Or Sac State
 
I AM TRANSFERRING TO EITHER CHICO OR SAC FOR SPRING 06 I WILL BE A JUNIOR. I WANT TO JOIN A FRATernity, DO THEY ACCEPT PEOPLE DURING THE SPRING. AND WHAT ARE SOME COOL ONES AT THOSE SCHOOLS. DOES ANYBODY GO TO THOSE SCHOOLS?

hoosier 10-08-2005 01:51 PM

Good luck to you.

I'd never use the term "frat" among fraternity members - not cool.

All groups accept members in the spring - in fact I think Chico has "deferred" rush until Spring term.

Chico has had a series of nasty hazing/drinking problems in the chapters, and the school is cracking down. Be prepared, if a chapter (which will assure you during rush that they don't haze) starts unreasonable hazing, to say "if you continue, I'll be in the dean's office tomorrow morning." Be a man and help stop the ignorant and harmful hazers. Check the "Risk management" section of this forum for previous posts on Chico.

The "local" fraternities at Chico (those not affiliated with chapters at lots of other campuses) will be cheaper, but the "nationals" will give you lifetime benefits, more good programs, a magazine, etc. Go national if you can.

Fraternity membership is a great way to enjoy college life and make friends.

Last summer I visited Chico and Sac State - Chico is more a college town, although the fraternity houses are very crummy and stuck amongst the local civilians/citizens. SS is in a huge town, and there aren't many fraternity houses.

Best wishes. Let us know what happens.

AlphaPhiBubbles 10-08-2005 03:02 PM

Yea the fraternities have deferred rush this year...that is among the groups that aren't suspended.

I go to Chico State, and its not as horrible as Hoosier or the rest of GC would like you to believe. Despite all the bad press it's really a fun place to live - Chico is a great little town and the people here are very friendly.

As for fraternity houses being crappy - they are just about as crappy as the rest of the student houses. It's a college town and most student's havent learned how to take care of a house yet.

I know which fraternity is the best in my eyes, but I'm not about to start that kind of stuff here. I encourage you to look into rush no matter what school you end up going to. Although please educate yourself a little more on the greek system and don't let anyone catch you saying "frat" or expect to get a bid because you like to party.

PhoenixAzul 10-08-2005 03:23 PM

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Originally posted by hoosier


The "local" fraternities at Chico (those not affiliated with chapters at lots of other campuses) will be cheaper, but the "nationals" will give you lifetime benefits, more good programs, a magazine, etc. Go national if you can.


We have all of those things (lifetime benefits, good programs, and a magazine), and we're local. Being national doesn't automatically make everything sparkly and wonderful. Go wherever your heart tells you to go, even if it is local.

AOX81 10-08-2005 03:27 PM

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Originally posted by PhoenixAzul
We have all of those things (lifetime benefits, good programs, and a magazine), and we're local. Being national doesn't automatically make everything sparkly and wonderful. Go wherever your heart tells you to go, even if it is local.
Ditto :)

valkyrie 10-08-2005 03:35 PM

Good lord, people.

preciousjeni 10-08-2005 04:29 PM

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Originally posted by valkyrie
Good lord, people.
My sentiments exactly.

thaloccsta 10-09-2005 01:30 PM

SO ALL IN ALL WHICH IS A BIGGER PARTY SCHOOL... I KNOW IT WOULD BE CHICO BEFORE, BUT SINCE THEY ARE REALLY CRACKING DOWN, HAS THAT CHANGED?

Jestor 10-09-2005 01:53 PM

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Originally posted by thaloccsta
SO ALL IN ALL WHICH IS A BIGGER PARTY SCHOOL... I KNOW IT WOULD BE CHICO BEFORE, BUT SINCE THEY ARE REALLY CRACKING DOWN, HAS THAT CHANGED?
Dude, two bits of advice here:

1) Turn off your caps lock.

2) If you're looking for a fraternity just to party, which that statement implies you are, then don't bother joining.

JenMarie 10-09-2005 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by thaloccsta
SO ALL IN ALL WHICH IS A BIGGER PARTY SCHOOL... I KNOW IT WOULD BE CHICO BEFORE, BUT SINCE THEY ARE REALLY CRACKING DOWN, HAS THAT CHANGED?
I was willing to give some advice... however after this post, I've decided to hold my tongue.

SirHornyToad 10-10-2005 01:18 AM

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Originally posted by PhoenixAzul
We have all of those things (lifetime benefits, good programs, and a magazine), and we're local. Being national doesn't automatically make everything sparkly and wonderful. Go wherever your heart tells you to go, even if it is local.
Ditto


Also, as the president of an local fraternity let me give you one piece of advice, it's actually part of a speech I gave to my actives tonight during our meeting, to give it context basically some of our newest members have been droping the ball lately and not following through on thier responsabilities and basically I said "I'm really disappointed in you right now, when you pledge you become my 'brother' but you aren't really my Brother until your there putting in the work right along side me as equals. I may be the president but I put in more work then you understand and my Brothers show up and work with me and get things done, those of you who just show up for the parties or the girls are my brothers in name only."

So a piece of advice, if you aren't willing to put in the work and be down to ride, don't even waste your time because you won't get anything from joining a fraternity and they won't get anything from you. My best friend from high school joined SAE at CSU Fullerton, was active for a semester after he was initiated and then basically dropped it because he was only doing it to get into the parties for free and he had made his friends while he was active and didn't feel he wanted to be part of the fraternity anymore. It really made me sad to hear him say this because I love my Brothers more then anything and it would be real easy to put myself in the shoes of the people in his chapter that were working really hard to make things go well. I honestly think they wasted his time by pledging/initiating him and that he wasted 3 + 1/2 years of his life by not taking full advantage of the opportunities offered by being an active brother.

moe.ron 10-10-2005 04:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by thaloccsta
SO ALL IN ALL WHICH IS A BIGGER PARTY SCHOOL... I KNOW IT WOULD BE CHICO BEFORE, BUT SINCE THEY ARE REALLY CRACKING DOWN, HAS THAT CHANGED?
So, your purpose in picking a school is for the party scene? Sounds like you'll have a great future ahead of you.

thaloccsta 10-10-2005 02:20 PM

ITS FUNNY THAT BECAUSE I ASKED A QUESTION ABOUT PATRYING SOME ASSUMED THAT WAS MY SOLE PURPOSE FOR JOINING A FRATERNITY. I WANT TO GO TO COLLEGE AND HAVE A GOOD TIME, AND I MEAN A REALLY GOOD TIME, SO HOW MUCH A FRATERNITY PARTIES WILL INFLUENCE MY FINAL DECISION, IS THAT WRONG?

WHEN JOINING A FRATERNITY WHAT STUFF DO YOU HAVE TO DO? IM NOT TALKING ABOUT HAZING AND STUFF BUT LIKE YOU SAID PEOPLE WERENT DOING THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES. LIKE COMMUNITY STUFF? CUZ WHAT IF PEOPLE HAVE TO WORK, GO HOME FOR THE WEEKEND, ETC.


sorry about the caps lock i forgot

i dont know how to find this out any other way so respectfully if you go to chico or sac state which fraternity are you in? just by looking on-line about sacramento i was interested in
Kappa Sigma
Sigma Pi
Tao Kappa Epsilon
Or are any of you guys brothers with them?

AlphaPhiBubbles 10-10-2005 05:22 PM

A couple of things - Yes I agree that local groups can be just as great and amazing as national groups. Unfortunatley here at Chico State, local fraternities are less than stellar and have major risk management issues IMO.

Secondly, "thaloccsta", don't bother rushing here at Chico state with this attitude...of the three fraternities you mentioned we only have Sigma Pi here and I will tell you right now they won't want you. I am really good friends with most of that chapter and they have a history of building strong members and had to make a huge effort to "weed out" the drunk stupid kids in order to become a great chapter. In fact I can honestly say that at Chico state all the fraternities aren't going to want any "party-animal" pledges because the greek system is trying SOOOO HARD to prove to everyone that we are better than that.

You aren't going to get any other or better advice on this message board, so why don't you just relax and focus on which school you want to go to and settling in first. Maybe be thinking about your academic career over how "sick" the parties here or at sac state are.

thaloccsta 10-10-2005 07:12 PM

because school is easy...

i want to know where i can have the best time...

now given im on the internet asking about parties doesnt make much sense( cuz im probably talking to some computer nerds) i figured you guys would tell me wheres the party at

but it seems like you guys dont even party at all... do u guys party or what?

jcbeta07 10-10-2005 08:23 PM

Your so off man,

If you know anything about colleges in cali, then you would know that chico is def known as one of the best party schools. Sac on the other hand, I Know nothing about. As far as fraternities/rushing, let me reitereate a point NEVER USE THE WORD "FRAT". Seriously, don't. Second, if you're sole purpose for rushing is to party, your done for. I am a junior at UCSB (#4 party school in the nation), and after going through countless seasons of rush, trust when i say, actives are EXPERTS at spotting social/party hungry newbies. Moreover, a strong solid chapter usually looks for well rounded kids that are going to add to the house, in more ways than pounding a beer.

As to to the whole "dont you guys party?" comment, well dude . . .the reason most of us dont seem all gun-ho party animals online, is simple. ITS BECASUE WE LIVE IT. Do you have any idea how many parties/TG's/socials/formals/date parties/ we've gone too since pleadging? ??? Excuse us if we don't all sounds as excited about partying, its just that over time most of us have realized the true purpose and meaning of going greek. and trust, it has very little to do with partying.

FYI, You should never consider joining any one house in particular, soley based on what you heard from someone. The best way to go about it is to go out to rush and visit as many chaptesr as possible. Not untill you've met with the actives and talked to them can you even being to consider.


GOOD LUCK.

SAEalumnus 10-10-2005 09:12 PM

In my opinion, the choice of which school to transfer to should be determined by what educational program you want and which school has the better one. Your degree is supposed to be the primary reason for attending college anyway, not fraternity.

Once you've determined which school will serve your academic needs better, then you should decide which fraternity to rush, not the other way around.

CutiePie2000 10-10-2005 09:23 PM

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Originally posted by thaloccsta
but it seems like you guys dont even party at all... do u guys party or what?
No, we sit at home all day singing hymns, weaving and playing Dungeons and Dragons. Good grief. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

JenMarie 10-10-2005 09:25 PM

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Originally posted by jcbeta07
Sac on the other hand, I Know nothing about.
We're not Chico... but we have had some pretty decent parties. But being a commuter school... there aren't really HUGE parties that you may see in a college town.

Look... I don't care if you think school is "easy." You are paying tuition to GO TO SCHOOL, and therefore better yourself and get a career going. Going greek is icing on the cake... not the sole purpose of the college experience.

JonInKC 10-10-2005 11:13 PM

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Originally posted by CutiePie2000
No, we sit at home all day singing hymns, weaving and playing Dungeons and Dragons. Good grief. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
I used to rock and roll all night and party every day. Now I'm lucky if I can find 30 minutes a day with which to get funky.

thaloccsta 10-11-2005 12:31 AM

Man i know about chico's reputation, i know that used to be the biggest for sure. But this year people are telling me the cops break up the party real quick because they have no tolerance. They have banned alcohol in the dorms. People told me they used to shut down streets a couple times a year and party but no more. So i wanted to know what its really like.

Do you have any idea how many parties/TG's/socials/formals/date parties/ we've gone too since pleadging? ???

no man i dont that is why i am asking on here

valkyrie 10-11-2005 12:39 AM

Isn't Sacramento the armpit of California?

sugar and spice 10-11-2005 12:54 AM

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Originally posted by thaloccsta


sorry about the caps lock i forgot

LOLZ. I love this thread already.

Unregistered- 10-11-2005 01:04 AM

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Originally posted by valkyrie
Isn't Sacramento the armpit of California?
No, that would be Fresno. I believe Bakersfield trails at a close second.

(Sorry, DZGirl, you know I still love you!)

copacabana 10-11-2005 01:19 AM

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Originally posted by OTW
No, that would be Fresno. I believe Bakersfield trails at a close second.

(Sorry, DZGirl, you know I still love you!)

Ouch! It's true though:p

Glitter650 10-11-2005 01:25 AM

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Originally posted by OTW
No, that would be Fresno. I believe Bakersfield trails at a close second.

(Sorry, DZGirl, you know I still love you!)


Fresno would be the armpit.... but really I'm not a big fan of Sacramento either, it's an odd city.

SirHornyToad 10-11-2005 03:13 AM

Look, if you want to party almost any college or university in california will provide more then enough if you can figure out who the right people to know are.

That being said, there are a few schools you might want to consider especially over sac state and chico,

UCSB - most beautifull school plus I.V. can't be beat its disgustingly fun.
San Diego State - Best party school in the nation period, oh and it's 20 mins from TJ
Long Beach State - Some of the most beautiful girls ever.

Sacramento is like going to west texas, just try and not do it.

There now you have your party info so go figure it out.

FloridaTish 10-11-2005 11:18 AM

I really don't think it matters what school you go to. With an attitude like yours, I doubt you'll be there very long. Picking a college solely based on their greek life and if they are a hard core party school indicates that getting an EDUCATION is NOT the reason you are going to college.

You may think classes will be a cake walk, but once your reality check arrives and bitch slaps you in the face, you are in for a seriously rude awakening.

kddani 10-11-2005 11:20 AM

If school is so easy, you should transfer to a school that challenges you more, not one that's going to kill your brain cells from all of your partying there.

jcbeta07 10-11-2005 12:38 PM

This is more than enough for you to see whats up. Oh and dont worry about a ban on alcohol in the dorms . . .I dont know of any school in california that doesnt have one. Few people ever listen to that. And yeah, the afformentioned list is pretty much on the money. being at UCSB I couldn't imagine going to a commuter school out in the middle of no-where cali. I live on the beach, literally. IV is such a unique place, it really is. It's more of a state of mind. its the only school i know where people seriously surf in between classes (ucsb has its own beach). Again, #4 party school in the nation, according to this years Princeton Review (not just me ). And also voted the 2nd most in shape student body in the nation. and to top it all off, the average out of high school frehsman accepted had a +3.9 gpa this year. Good looks and brains. My best friend goes to SD state. That school rocks as well. He's also in a pretty big fraternity on campus. My only qualm with that is if you wanna have a close knitt college town feel you kinda have to go down to PB. Which isnt as convenient as say IV & UCSB. But all in all the two most beautifull and hardcore party schools in the state. HANDS DOWN
I guess it just depends where you can get into . . .

AlphaPhiBubbles 10-11-2005 04:03 PM

jcbeta i really liked what you had to say in your first post, but when did this turn into a "well my school is just really really cool" thread? Don't get me wrong I LOVE UCSB and SD State...prob would've gone to either but didn't get in. I just don't really like the bragging tone you've taken.

I also wanted to add that I have seen it time and time again here at Chico and many other places...kids who think school is easy (and it might be for many) and so they join a fraternity/sorority, make lots of friends and party so hard that they forget to go to class and then - WHOOPS! You've failed your first semester. Then they spend the next 2 years at freshman status and on academic probation, kicked out of fraternity/sorority group because of grades, etc. and they wind up moving home.

Wow that sounds like an awesome college experience to me. Oh wait no it doesn't.

BetteDavisEyes 10-11-2005 04:17 PM

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Originally posted by Glitter650
Fresno would be the armpit.... but really I'm not a big fan of Sacramento either, it's an odd city.

I thought that Riverside was the armpit. Hmmm...I do know that Riverside is the meth capital of CA if not the U.S.
And to think I'm moving there in January.

Unregistered- 10-11-2005 04:23 PM

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Originally posted by BetteDavisEyes
I thought that Riverside was the armpit. Hmmm...I do know that Riverside is the meth capital of CA if not the U.S.
And to think I'm moving there in January.

Riverside is nothing compared to Honolulu and Hilo when it comes to meth consumption.

JonInKC 10-11-2005 05:32 PM

Can't forget the Show-Me State. I thought I read in Newsweek that Missouri actually knocked California out of 1st place as far as number of meth labs.

Tom Earp 10-11-2005 06:16 PM

Jon, to funny Dude.

Best Advice, get the Hell out of California!

Come to THE MID WEST! People art Real!


Oh, Kansas, Missouri for starters!:D God Loves Us!!!!!:cool:

jcbeta07 10-12-2005 01:26 AM

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Originally posted by AlphaPhiBubbles
jcbeta i really liked what you had to say in your first post, but when did this turn into a "well my school is just really really cool" thread? Don't get me wrong I LOVE UCSB and SD State...prob would've gone to either but didn't get in. I just don't really like the bragging tone you've taken.

I also wanted to add that I have seen it time and time again here at Chico and many other places...kids who think school is easy (and it might be for many) and so they join a fraternity/sorority, make lots of friends and party so hard that they forget to go to class and then - WHOOPS! You've failed your first semester. Then they spend the next 2 years at freshman status and on academic probation, kicked out of fraternity/sorority group because of grades, etc. and they wind up moving home.

Wow that sounds like an awesome college experience to me. Oh wait no it doesn't.

LOL, very true mam'

I just kinda got thinking "Damn! this kid is really going to dislike college if he's only going there for one reason." And so I just love that both UCSB and SD are both pretty well rounded schools. As apposed to only attracting kids who want to go away from home to party even harder. But yes, I def was bragging. My apoligies

thaloccsta 10-12-2005 12:10 PM

listen i am transferring from one of the best jc' in the U.S. Santa Rosa Junior College so i am not worried about the difficulty.

I have done enough partying to where it has effected my school work here, seeing that it takes me 2 1/2 years instead of 2 so i know where to draw the line now

mainly i want to be partying thursday friday and saturday

i am heavily into sports are there fraternities at sacramento that focus more on sports activities than any others, or how does that work?

AlphaPhiBubbles 10-12-2005 01:03 PM

;) thanks jcbeta.

loccsta - give it up man. bottom line- if you are a fun person and determined to have fun wherever you are, then you will! quit trippin about it.

and hey californians are real dammit. apparently they just really enjoy their meth. although im glad to hear we've been knocked out of our top spot.

Glitter650 10-13-2005 02:16 PM

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Originally posted by AlphaPhiBubbles
;) thanks jcbeta.

loccsta - give it up man. bottom line- if you are a fun person and determined to have fun wherever you are, then you will! quit trippin about it.

and hey californians are real dammit. apparently they just really enjoy their meth. although im glad to hear we've been knocked out of our top spot.


Really ! Any college has parties, (with the exception of those freakishly religious ones discussed on here a few times) and with your attitude I'm sure you'll find them. Worry about what school has the best rep. for your major, go there, the rest will follow.

moe.ron 10-13-2005 02:33 PM

If I were you, i'd followed other people's advice and go for the school that will give you a good education and set you up for the future. I'm sure UCLA and Berkeley does their fair share of partying, while still give you a good education.


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