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kapsigcub 09-29-2005 03:34 PM

U Ark Rush results
 
I'm happy to see that numbers were up for the second year in a row.

Dunno if the table would format correctly, so here is the link:

University of Arkansas Fall 2005 Rush

ARalum 09-29-2005 09:32 PM

Glad
 
I'm so glad to see that numbers were up AGAIN this year. Being greek at the UofA was such a special expierence for me and my sister is was part of the tradition this year :)

dixiephimu 10-02-2005 08:01 PM

That's great! Being from Arkansas I had tons of friends go to U of A and most of them were greek. I loved my weekends in Fayetville and the greek scene there!

cutiepatootie 10-02-2005 08:16 PM

thats awesome numbers are up....i think now they are allowing another GLO on ampus it will only increase

IvySpice 10-03-2005 10:25 AM

Does anyone have a comment on Arkansas adding a new chapter when one consistently isn't reaching quota? I thought that that was ususally not done. Does that chapter usually reach total through COB?

irishpipes 10-03-2005 12:59 PM

Maybe I'm the wrong person to respond to this, since my org is the one coming onto campus next year, but here goes...

When I was in school, we had 3 struggling GLOs (it was a very HUGE system) and a new one was brought on. The 3 struggling ones closed, and the new one thrived. This was because PNMs would have dropped out rather than accept a bid from the struggling chapters. Sometimes a new one doesn't have to battle a poor reputation, and therefore is a more realistic option for a PNM. (The theory being that no reputation is better than a poor reputation.) I am not saying it is right, but I think it is the case sometimes. I guess if everyone involved has exhausted the possibilities to revive the struggling chapter, it is the right thing to do for the PNMs. I think on some campuses though, PH rushes to allow a new group and therefore kills the existing one.

I have no idea what the situation is for the group you are referring to, and I certainly hope that AOII's presence on campus does NOT harm that group further. Hopefully a new group will energize the whole Greek system and everyone involved will benefit.

ZTAngel 10-03-2005 01:08 PM

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Originally posted by irishpipes
This was because PNMs would have dropped out rather than accept a bid from the struggling chapters. Sometimes a new one doesn't have to battle a poor reputation, and therefore is a more realistic option for a PNM. (The theory being that no reputation is better than a poor reputation.) I am not saying it is right, but I think it is the case sometimes.

Very true. This was the case with 2 different schools that I pretty familiar with. Women were more than willing to join a newly colonized group with no stigma rather than join an existing group that had been struggling.

honeychile 10-03-2005 01:30 PM

While I don't have any "official" word here to add, I will say that normally, PNMs would rather drop out than go to the chapter with low numbers (and yes, I know it's ADPi with the low numbers). I've seen this happen time and time again on the few campuses with which I'm familiar.

I do know that on one campus, ADPi closed the chapter with the understanding that, even if someone else colonizes, ADPi WILL be recolonizing in 4-5 years.

irishpipes 10-12-2005 02:26 PM

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I do know that on one campus, ADPi closed the chapter with the understanding that, even if someone else colonizes, ADPi WILL be recolonizing in 4-5 years.
I have heard of that happening as well. I wonder though, does that mean that the org can come back without the campus being open for expansion?

dixiephimu 10-12-2005 10:48 PM

I thought several years back KD was also struggling?? They seem to be doing fine now. Maybe ADPi would have a better chance of making quota if quota is lower? Who knows. But I think it's great that AOII is coming to campus!

carnation 10-13-2005 06:40 AM

I was told a couple of years ago that KD, as the newest, was having a hard time but a mom of a PNM from this year tells me that they've really soared lately! Yea to KD!

As an alum, I definitely think that what hurts Arkansas' sororities is that, like at many large schools, many many PNMs aim for a certain group of chapters and if they don't get one of them, they transfer or don't pledge....even though their remaining choices are fabulous. Since I was there, 3 great groups have folded and a fourth came back (they were there in the thirties or forties) but they folded again. I wish the best of luck to AOII--they're using some unusual colonizing strategies and I pray that they'll succeed wonderfully!

irishpipes 10-13-2005 09:51 AM

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they're using some unusual colonizing strategies
What does that mean? Are you referring to the amount of time we are taking?

OleMissGlitter 10-13-2005 10:14 AM

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Originally posted by irishpipes
What does that mean? Are you referring to the amount of time we are taking?
Pray do tell...I know that they wanted to start the PR Blitz early on to get AOII's name out on the U or AR campus.

Also, is ADPi at AR not making quota because they are being picky or because they are not matching up girls? I think there is a difference in the two because I know a few houses at Ole Miss that would rather miss quota by a few and be more selective. Just wondering.

carnation 10-13-2005 05:05 PM

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Originally posted by irishpipes
What does that mean? Are you referring to the amount of time we are taking?
The way y'all are getting your name all around first and carefully setting the scene! :D

dixiephimu 10-15-2005 10:16 PM

I think with ADPi doesn't make quota simply because so many girls think they have to be in one or two "top" houses. So the first house they drop is ADPi. Or that's the case with girls from my hometown. The year my class went through rush every single girl who was "popular" from my hometown pledged only two sororities. Since they only pref two houses up there, they all went to pref at the same two houses and half ended up one place and half the other. They were never interested in anything else. I don't know what I would have done if I had to fo U of A.

cutiepatootie 10-16-2005 12:30 AM

I have been away from campus for over 10 yrs now but when i was there the ADPI chapter was bursting at the seams and was one of the top 3 on campus. I am surprised they are having problems, but maybe with a new glo on campus it will help them re priortize and look at improving image and focus on gaining quality women again

irishpipes 10-16-2005 03:30 PM

How "Southern" is Arkansas Greek life? Do you think this is a situation similar to Ole Miss where tradition is everything? It seems odd that Arkansas only has 7 sororities (just like it is odd that Ole Miss only has 9). There has been tons of discussion on GC about why Ole Miss only has 9, but what about Arkansas? I know that Theta closed there in 1989 (and KD came on then), and Alpha Chi closed in 1977. I think Phi Mu and DG once had chapters there also, but I don't know when.

carnation 10-16-2005 04:04 PM

The U of Arkansas, as far as Greek tradition goes, is very very much like the Mississippi schools. Many women rush with a short list of which ones they'll consider.

You are correct about the 4 groups that closed. Three of them were there in the seventies when I was.

cutiepatootie 10-16-2005 04:55 PM

Delta gamma was on campus and they left Phi mu came onto campus and took over the DG house ...Phi mu left campus in 1995-96

irishpipes 10-16-2005 04:58 PM

I just looked at the website for ADII at Arkansas, and from the photos, I cannot for the life of me see why that chapter would be struggling. Those are some of the loveliest looking young women, and I know that how strong a chapter is should not be based solely on looks, but if it were, that would be a top house at most campuses.

Tom Earp 10-16-2005 05:30 PM

Ah, Arkansas is the place of The Last Major Battle of The Civil War, Pea Ridge. Is is some what Southern, Yes. Is is a strong Greek Campus, Yes.

The Last House That LXA Financed rto build screwed up and left Campus.

They recolonized and are now growing by leaps and bounds. House was rented out and was trashed several times while they were waiting for it and when the last tenets left.

The Houses are Compariable to any.

Much History is there as in Ga. and Mi. or say Kt, or Al. or La.


Why Chapters do not grow there may be the same situation, Figures for Soroitys. Hell, when theyb get that big, how do You know every Member?:(

Add More Great Soroitys and Fraternitys and then go from there.

Grow and Grow!! Be important to the Campus.

Try Mine and Cry!

dixiephimu 10-17-2005 09:05 PM

Being from Arkansas and going to Ole Miss, I can tell you things are very similiar with regards to rush. Girls from my hometown go in wanting only two houses. I'll omit which ones since it has probably changed since I rushed in 98 (Ok, maybe one has changed, one has not...too many little sisters went there and kept everybody pledging the same thing.) I think the sorority scene is like Ole Miss in that there are no "bad" chapters but people think that way anhyhow. And I'm sure at many campuses ADPi would be the BEST sorority around.

My best friend from HS pledged ADPi when she transferred to U of A as a sophmore (99). I'm going to call her and ask just what is the deal anyway!!

honeychile 10-17-2005 09:52 PM

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Originally posted by irishpipes
I have heard of that happening as well. I wonder though, does that mean that the org can come back without the campus being open for expansion?
The way it was explained to me was that, the sorority which is struggling has a talk with the Greek Advisor, setting a time at which the chapter will return - usually 4-6 years later. In other words, they are already promised the chance to recolonize prior to going inactive.

That way, the people who have preconceived notions about the GLO will (hopefully!) have graduated, and the GLO can start with a clean slate. I would imagine - but I don't know for sure - that the rules regarding recolonization would come in to play in this manner.

I also know of two other GLOs who are using this approach, and I think you'll see more of it. After all, the GLO has already invested in a house & the accroutements; why should they completely dump everything? I see it as a win-win situation for everyone.


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