The Rules For When Threads Are Deleted
 

I'm just curious what these rules are. Anyone?

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According to this, there are quite a lot of posts in places like the random thread that should be deleted as well (and maybe some members that should be banned). Also according to this, most of the D&M forum should be deleted.

Not trying to be argumentative, it's just what I'm reading into this.

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At the Mods/Admin's sole discretion.

For good reason or no good reason.

This is a Mod/John-ocracy, not a democracy.

I don't mind it. If you want to be offensive, don't be offended when your comments are deleted.

EDITED!!!

What Geeky Penquin said!

If any of the mods get complaints on a post or a thread (see the option to "report to moderator"), it's usually going to be deleted.

So I could report a thread to a moderator because it was annoying me and it would get deleted? That makes sense. I'm totally not trying to be argumentative either, it just seems like the choice to delete threads in here depends on WHO is doing the posting rather than the subject matter.

I have to agree with that.

What did I miss?

-Rudey

It got deleted.... Again. :(

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LOL...I don't really think that "offensiveness" was the reason these were deleted.

ETA: I understand that john makes the rules, it just seems like they should be applied across the board and not depend on the person who is posting.

Random thread deletions

What??

-Rudey

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Usually they are - however, somebody like AOIISilver or DeltAlum is a lot more likely to get away with dropping an f-bomb than I am, because they're doing it to make a point and I'm doing it for gratuitious profanity.

I get a lot of posts deleted and if I have a question, I PM the mod who did it and ask them why. I also delete just about everything that's reported to me because it's inapprorpiate - although in the Gamma Phi forum, there's not much of that.

The people on GC hate us!!! :( :( :(

(I'm just kidding)

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I totally understand your point. My problem with that soort of policy is that if someone doesn't like a particular person they can just report the person over and over to get posts/threads deleted.

ETA: I actually did PM the mod and I haven't gotten any response yet.

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Not knowing what type of post was deleted, I would imagine that it fell under the TOS rules of use. None of the mods like to delete things just for kicks.

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Didn't you guys say that the TOS rules are pretty much "for any reason"? So under that rule they CAN just delete threads for kicks. (reminder: I'm not trying to be argumentative)

Also, I'm talking about threads (not posts) being deleted. :)

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Well, actually you didn't -- at least in one case because I didn't get a PM from you and I deleted one of the threads.

There is nothing personal.

The reasons were what I considered gratuitous use of vulger language, talk about sexual matters that offended some readers and what, in my opinion, were clear violations of the Terms of Service which everyone agreed to when signing on to GC.

I can't speak for anyone else who deleted threads or posts. I also can't speak for moderators in other forums over which I have no say. If they choose to allow violations of the TOS, there's nothing I can do about it. However, this is a public board and people who have little or no concern for how they affect others when they want to have a civil discussion get little sympathy from me.

If you believe I, or another moderator, is/am being unfair, please feel free to take your complaint to the board administrator.

Otherwise, posters can clean up their act or risk deletions or banning.

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I think there are quite a few posters on this board who should read this.

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I'm certainly not one to be complaining about fairness, I think I'm treated fairly considering some of the shit I pull. But, to comment on what you just wrote;

I don't think banning or deleting entire threads really solves the dillema. I kind of look at it the same way I do prison. It causes more problems in the end. You delete a thread and someone posts it right back up. You delete people's posts....they start posting more and more shit. Its an endless cycle that drains both the moderator and the poster. And then there's the ships on GC, the people who intentionally report someone or some thread a million times just because they want it deleted. And if there's anything that violates TOS....its deleted. However, I find it hard to believe that if 1 person reports 1 entire thread and it does in fact violate the TOS.....the moderators are likely to delete said thread.

Here is an example of what I am talking about:

Let's take "The Random Thread", this thread has vulgar language in it, cat fights, the ousting of DGqueen17, flamings and a million other things that violate TOS and yet it STILL remains. If myself, Lindz and Otter reported the random thread and demanded it be deleted due to 1/2 of the posts in there violating TOS....it wont be deleted. Why? Because 2/3 of GC post in it and even mods themselves LOVE it. So.....it remains. Then you had Mike Jones. It violated TOS, or at least 1/3 of it did (which is less than The Random Thread's violations). Anyways, a million people reported it because of their jealousy or out of dislike for the people posting in it and next thing you know its deleted. But I want to ask, why is it I get this feeling that rather than EDITING a few posts an entire thread is deleted? Is it because it takes up too much time to edit and its just easier to delete?

My point here is, if it violates rules...fine, it should be edited/deleted. Said post/thread went against TOS. We can't argue with that. But Puhhhhlease spread the wealth a little. Mikes Jones was like my random thread, well actually mine , otter's and lindz's, and I think pretty much all of GC knew that. And because of that I believe that envy crept in and we had yet another witch hunt on GC. The mods, in order to avoid being annoyed with reported memos, just said f--k it and deleted it since it violated TOS.

-This place has become so damn PC in the past 2 years its not even funny. :(

just curious as to who is jealous, why, and what of?

Maybe if GCs mods/rules/thread deletions and regular posters reports of threads bother people so much they can pack up their toys and go play on AIM or something and quit bitching about it.

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Thank you. I agree.

This is not a crusade. It is an effort to make the board comfortable for everyone.

There's no way that I read every thread or post. Generally I become aware of a problem because someone -- or a group of someones -- complain. I'm sure there are other threads and posts that should be deleted.

ETA, I generally try to selectively delete posts unless the thread is so far out of control that it would be useless. It does take longer to delete specific posts, but that's not a piece of the decision process for me.

I read this and I feel like I'm those little crabs in Finding Nemo that are trying to pinch the heads off fish coming out of the water treatment pipe.



Hey Hey, Hey, Hey Hey Hey.

AMEN! AIM or email are FABULOUS options for you guys to have your conversations. Stop whining, grow up, and talk amongst yourselves.

You could also say that if you don't like what is in a particular thread, then DON'T READ IT!!! That is just as easy.

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DeltAlum,
I appreciate your responses. I think that you ARE trying to be fair in post/thread deletion, but it's good that you see the other side as well (the sign of a good mod). Maybe you could take this whole thread as me (and anyone else who agrees with me) asking for all the mods to play fair and delete or don't delete people using the same standards across the board.
Thanks!

I'm sorry, isn't that what a message board is? For people to talk amongst themselves? Especially in the CHIT CHAT forum...LOL.

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I agree with this 110%. Sometimes I wonder if GCers (mods, too) PM their mod-buddies to get them to close a thread they simply don't like. No, I can't back that up, because, well, the threads are deleted. :p

Seriously though, sometimes things are done that just don't seem consistent.

I didn't read any of the threads that were recently deleted, but I have a question for those who are complaining that the standards mods use for thread deletion are not uniform. Could you please point out some threads and/or posts that you feel should have been deleted but weren't, and could you provide copies of the reports you made to the mods asking for action to be taken on such threads and/or posts?

It seems really common that when something is deleted, the deletees start pointing fingers and saying the mods play favorites or don't apply uniform standards. I would like to see evidence to back up this claim.

I totally agree that it is common to point fingers. I think the point that I was making is that I personally didn't find the threads in question offensive. I also didn't find other threads offensive that seem to be in the same category of "offensiveness"...if that makes sense.
But since you asked, one (and I'm stressing that this is only ONE, not all) example that I can think of that happened recently are the responses to many new people in the rush forum. It seems to me that using profanities when people are asking questions about rush could be perceived as offensive to some. Personally I didn't report the members who seemed to be constantly making these types of posts, I just stated my opinion and stopped reading them.

ETA: the problem, in my mind, is that it seems from an outside perspective that random people can just report things because it annoys them and a thread (evidently) will get deleted if the poster isn't on friendly terms with the mod in that forum. I'm not trying to be argumentative at all, just telling you how I see it. :)

Candy and Barb (Carnation and PenguinTrx) mod the rush forum with a pretty iron fist. Personally, I think it's the best modded forum on GC. They don't tolerate much, and i've seen them delete profanity quickly. If there's something that still up that bothers you, then report it.

But then I would guess that some mods probably don't take some people's reports as seriously. Like if a person reports a post, but then they're pretty well known for posting inappropriate stuff themselves, you kind of have to take it with a grain of salt.

I have to say, glad I only have the KD and Events forum.

Right -- but why are you asking the "mods to play fair and delete or don't delete people using the same standards across the board" if they haven't been unfair or applying non-uniform standards?

And welcome everyone to yet another GC arguement that will only go around and around in circles because there IS no way to please everyone. :rolleyes:

I think I was saying that they HAVE been applying non-uniform standards in my mind and I was asking DeltAlum (the mod) to please apply uniform standards and delete other people who are posting things that MAY be offensive to certain people. I did say that I don't find anything offensive about most things, it's pretty hard to offend me.

Agreed. I hope I made some semblance of a point. I think I'm done on this subject. Feel free to delete the thread...LOL

Just get Cash to come in and say something.... It will be deleted in no time. ;)

Here's what I'm getting at:

1. You're saying that the mods have been applying non-uniform standards in your mind.

2. I'm asking for evidence to support your assertion, in the form of posts and requests you made to have action taken on those posts. Without showing that you reported posts and the mods did nothing, I don't see how you're supporting your assertion that the mods have been applying non-uniform standards. You can't compare posts that have been reported with posts that haven't been reported.

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Take a look at a post. The second place to click from the left says "PM". If these threads are random threads for basically three people, then PM each other!! I'm sure you'll have the same love fest that "Mike Jones" gathered, but without the grief that it seemed to cause.

I will admit, I didn't read the thread, just the posts about it. I rarely read the Random Thread, either - but I decided against reading things that have a potential of driving me crazy!

I see your point. I wasn't being clear. I was responding to DA saying that the posts/threads were "offensive" according to the mods. I meant that this "offensiveness" standard needs to be applied across the board. The reporting thing wasn't really the issue.