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hoosier 09-14-2005 10:54 PM

"Best Political Website" for real Americans
 
One of the few daily political emails worth reading (and free) is the Wall Street Journal's OpinionJournal.com. It's a daily dose of clear thinking, and the author likes to stick a finger in the eye of libs and dems (as I do too). I've posted many pieces from OP here.

And on the same day, they win "Best Political Website" and "worst person in the world" awards.

You might enjoy OP.


"We'd like to mention a couple of awards we received yesterday. The Web Marketing Association named OpinionJournal.com the winner of its 2005 Webaward for "Best Political Website." And last night MSNBC oddball Keith Olbermann declared your humble columnist "worst person in the world"; it seems we edged out Louis Farrakhan and John Stossel. Impressively, all five of Olbermann's viewers e-mailed us to tell us we had won."

moe.ron 09-15-2005 02:15 AM

http://www.theonion.com/

LightBulb 09-15-2005 02:23 AM

http://www.jibjab.com

Rudey 09-15-2005 10:54 AM

Re: "Best Political Website" for real Americans
 
Quote:

Originally posted by hoosier
One of the few daily political emails worth reading (and free) is the Wall Street Journal's OpinionJournal.com. It's a daily dose of clear thinking, and the author likes to stick a finger in the eye of libs and dems (as I do too). I've posted many pieces from OP here.

And on the same day, they win "Best Political Website" and "worst person in the world" awards.

You might enjoy OP.


"We'd like to mention a couple of awards we received yesterday. The Web Marketing Association named OpinionJournal.com the winner of its 2005 Webaward for "Best Political Website." And last night MSNBC oddball Keith Olbermann declared your humble columnist "worst person in the world"; it seems we edged out Louis Farrakhan and John Stossel. Impressively, all five of Olbermann's viewers e-mailed us to tell us we had won."

OP is a good publication.

Of course be careful because a moderator might just come into this thread, erase half of what you wrote, and then lock the thread.

Hoosier, it's almost like you're Nelson Mandela.

-Rudey

RACooper 09-15-2005 11:32 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by hoosier
One of the few daily political emails worth reading (and free) is the Wall Street Journal's OpinionJournal.com. It's a daily dose of clear thinking, and the author likes to stick a finger in the eye of libs and dems (as I do too). I've posted many pieces from OP here.

And on the same day, they win "Best Political Website" and "worst person in the world" awards.

You might enjoy OP.


"We'd like to mention a couple of awards we received yesterday. The Web Marketing Association named OpinionJournal.com the winner of its 2005 Webaward for "Best Political Website." And last night MSNBC oddball Keith Olbermann declared your humble columnist "worst person in the world"; it seems we edged out Louis Farrakhan and John Stossel. Impressively, all five of Olbermann's viewers e-mailed us to tell us we had won."

So the only "real" Americans are conservatives? Or do you mean the only Americans that you care to acknowledge are the ones that do/should ascribe to this singlular source of self-affirming conservative opinion?

Rudey 09-15-2005 12:02 PM

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Originally posted by RACooper
So the only "real" Americans are conservatives? Or do you mean the only Americans that you care to acknowledge are the ones that do/should ascribe to this singlular source of self-affirming conservative opinion?
Well I suppose us Americans are fully entitled to whom we think are "real" Americans just as you Canadians are fully entitled to whom you think are "real" Canadians.

-Rudey

The1calledTKE 09-15-2005 12:27 PM

moveon.org

moe.ron 09-15-2005 12:27 PM

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Originally posted by Rudey
Hoosier, it's almost like you're Nelson Mandela.

-Rudey

Wrong

Rudey 09-15-2005 12:53 PM

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Originally posted by moe.ron
Wrong
Actually I'm right.

-Rudey

hoosier 09-15-2005 01:09 PM

If Accuracy in Media ever compared the accuracy of OJ and moveon.org, I suspect OJ would be rated well above 90%, and I suspect moveon.org would be around 9%.

The1calledTKE 09-15-2005 01:12 PM

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Originally posted by hoosier
If Accuracy in Media ever compared the accuracy of OJ and moveon.org, I suspect OJ would be rated well above 90%, and I suspect moveon.org would be around 9%.
Well how about ajc.com then?:p

Rudey 09-15-2005 01:13 PM

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Originally posted by hoosier
If Accuracy in Media ever compared the accuracy of OJ and moveon.org, I suspect OJ would be rated well above 90%, and I suspect moveon.org would be around 9%.
Yeah one is part of the well respected Wall Street Journal and the other one is a useless website that helped defeat Kerry.

-Rudey

Lil' Hannah 09-15-2005 01:29 PM

It appears that Brody PR won for their design on the site, not the content...

Year - 2005
Winner - Brody PR
Award Level - Best Political Website
Site - The Wall Street Journal's OpinionJournal.com

link

moe.ron 09-16-2005 03:55 AM

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Originally posted by Rudey
Actually I'm right.

-Rudey

No

DeltAlum 09-16-2005 09:36 AM

I think I've earned the right to be called a "real American" and I'm not interested in anyone telling me what I should or should not read, watch, listen to, vote for or believe.

Period.

KSigkid 09-16-2005 09:42 AM

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Originally posted by DeltAlum
I think I've earned the right to be called a "real American" and I'm not interested in anyone telling me what I should or should not read, watch, listen to, vote for or believe.

Period.

Exactly - unfortunately there are a lot of people on both sides of the debate who seem to disagree (on this board and otherwise).

hoosier 09-17-2005 02:37 PM

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Originally posted by The1calledTKE
Well how about ajc.com then?:p
As far as sports scores, they do a pretty good job although I think football (pro, college, HS) gets about twice as much coverage as it needs.

Jim Wooten's columns - rated 95% or better.

Cynthia Tucker's ramblings - she's right in criticizing Coretta and the Ka-Ching Center, but every other lib and dem person or activity, and every tax increase, gets a pass or pat on the back from her and her editorial page. The whole AJC should be wondering why circulation is plumeting, and the answer is liberal bias and a rating of less than 20%.

amanda6035 09-18-2005 08:41 AM

Even better.....
 
http://www.protestwarrior.com

Check out the t shirt and poster gallery. My personal favorite is the "White Racist for the Left" shirt - and I own it. Read the shirt before you come back and call me a racist. I'm not a racist. I think it's a hysterical shirt that points out the idiot thinking in liberal points of view.

moe.ron 09-18-2005 10:02 AM

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Originally posted by amanda6035
I think it's a hysterical shirt that points out the idiot thinking in liberal points of view.
or people who tell other people to GTFO because she doesn't like what people are saying.

amanda6035 09-18-2005 10:15 AM

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Originally posted by moe.ron
or people who tell other people to GTFO because she doesn't like what people are saying.
Wow. Some people cant let things go can they? Do you have an insecurity problem? Is that why you bring up trash in other threads because you cant let go?

And for the record, I never told people to GTFO becuase I didnt like what they were saying. I said it because they were idiots <----OOOOH, do you wanna use that as a quote, because I'm so sure that you took it seriously, rather than sarcastic as it's true intention was.

*Thinks* Why not add fuel to the fire, amanda, everyone's going to blow everything out of proprtion and take it out of context anyway.

How about we stick to the topic at hand, instead of being a prick about topics in the past, shall we? To remind you, it was "the best political website..." and I was only submitting a site that I thought others could enjoy. Too bad some people dont have a sense of humor.

moe.ron 09-18-2005 10:22 AM

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Originally posted by amanda6035
Too bad some people dont have a sense of humor.
I know, isn't that awful?

Put a happy face

amanda6035 09-18-2005 10:33 AM

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Originally posted by moe.ron
I know, isn't that awful?

Put a happy face

What wrong? Second thoughts about the comment of some of my best friends being black?

Well, in regards to your question before you editted your post...it shouldnt matter who my friends are, whether they are black or not. If you think I'm some little podunk white trash who never interacts with a "person of color" you'd be wrong. Thanks.

moe.ron 09-18-2005 10:37 AM

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Originally posted by amanda6035
What wrong? Second thoughts about the comment of some of my best friends being black?

Well, in regards to your question before you editted your post...it shouldnt matter who my friends are, whether they are black or not. If you think I'm some little podunk white trash who never interacts with a "person of color" you'd be wrong. Thanks.

I thought it was improper for me to say so, that's why I edited it out.

You're welcome honey.

xo_kathy 09-19-2005 03:17 PM

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Originally posted by amanda6035
http://www.protestwarrior.com

Check out the t shirt and poster gallery. My personal favorite is the "White Racist for the Left" shirt - and I own it. Read the shirt before you come back and call me a racist. I'm not a racist. I think it's a hysterical shirt that points out the idiot thinking in liberal points of view.

I don't care how "funny" you think it is, or how much you think it's "sticking it to the Libs" by wearing it, you are walking around with a shirt that says "Racist". Do you have any clue how ridiculous and ignorant that makes you look?! :rolleyes:

amanda6035 09-19-2005 03:27 PM

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Originally posted by xo_kathy
I don't care how "funny" you think it is, or how much you think it's "sticking it to the Libs" by wearing it, you are walking around with a shirt that says "Racist". Do you have any clue how ridiculous and ignorant that makes you look?! :rolleyes:
No, I'd be ignorant if I was a liberal.

Unless of course, you can prove to me how the statements on the shirt are wrong. Enlighten me, sweetheart.

So funny that none of the liberals on this thread have addressed the issue of how they feel the statements are wrong - rather than proving me wrong, they are just getting huffy and pissed off about it. Poor things.

kddani 09-19-2005 03:29 PM

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Originally posted by amanda6035
No, I'd be ignorant if I was a liberal.

Unless of course, you can prove to me how the statements on the shirt are wrong. Enlighten me, sweetheart.

So funny that none of the liberals on this thread have addressed the issue of how they feel the statements are wrong - rather than proving me wrong, they are just getting huffy and pissed off about it. Poor things.

Wow, is it really necessary to be this incredibly nasty to everyone?

moe.ron 09-19-2005 03:31 PM

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Originally posted by amanda6035
No, I'd be ignorant if I was a liberal.

Unless of course, you can prove to me how the statements on the shirt are wrong. Enlighten me, sweetheart.

So funny that none of the liberals on this thread have addressed the issue of how they feel the statements are wrong - rather than proving me wrong, they are just getting huffy and pissed off about it. Poor things.

What exactlly is your point again?

amanda6035 09-19-2005 03:36 PM

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Originally posted by kddani
Wow, is it really necessary to be this incredibly nasty to everyone?
Have you looked at what they've said to me?

Dont dish it if you cant take it. I find their posts to me just as offensive. When you have people trashing me in new threads just because they didnt like what I said in old threads, it gets pretty lame.

Moe, I'm sure if you re-read the statement, you can figure out the point. Prove the statements on the shirt wrong. Oh wait. You cant. Hah! That's right.

DeltAlum 09-19-2005 03:37 PM

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Originally posted by amanda6035
No, I'd be ignorant if I was a liberal.
It's that kind of statement that makes people of both persuasions shake their heads and roll their eyes.

moe.ron 09-19-2005 03:40 PM

According to the t-shirt, "white racist for the left" means that those that espouse left leaning ideology are for racist. Is that what the t-shirt is suppose to mean? Let us analyzed the t-shirt.

Leftist ideology is seen as a racist ideology by protestwarrior. Nevermind that many of the leftist in this country and those around the world were the one that fought apartheid south africa (who espouse right wing ideology based on the bible). So, I've provided you with one instance where your t-shirt is wrong.

Also interesting to note that Dick Cheney voted against a resolution to encourage the release of Nelson Mandela.

So the question is, would you say that all white people who espouse leftistist ideology are racists? If so, can you back it up?

WCUgirl 09-19-2005 04:56 PM

Re: Even better.....
 
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Originally posted by amanda6035
I think it's a hysterical shirt that points out the idiot thinking in liberal points of view.
and

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Originally posted by amanda6035
No, I'd be ignorant if I was a liberal.
Are you serious?

Anyways, here's what the shirt says:

http://www.protestwarrior.com/nimage...r_the_left.jpg

Okay, maybe my ignorance is showing here, but I don't understand the shirt in question. Here's why:

1. I thought the "good 'ole boy" network was associated with Republicans and/or conservatives. Here's a link discussing that. What does that have to do with liberals and high taxes? I'm sure that both Dems and Republicans, once in office or after becoming involved in politics, return favors, favor friends and "scratch each others' backs," so to speak.

2. Where's the government monopoly on education?

3. Umm, I thought the point of affirmative action was to prevent women and minorities from being adversely impacted by the good 'ole boy network (see item #1).

4. I googled my heart out but couldn't find those statistics. Can someone help me with that?

5. Umm, what?

Maybe I'm reading the shirt too literally, but I just don't get it...:confused:

amanda6035 09-19-2005 05:17 PM

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Originally posted by AXiD670
1. I thought the "good 'ole boy" network was associated with Republicans and/or conservatives. Here's a link discussing that. What does that have to do with liberals and high taxes? I'm sure that both Dems and Republicans, once in office or after becoming involved in politics, return favors, favor friends and "scratch each others' backs," so to speak.
Exactly. Liberals want us to be taxed to death to pay for welfare and crap like that. I think what it's saying is that because taxes are so high, it prevents a minority from crawling out of the hole. *I'm not saying it's right, and my explanation for this one might be wrong, but thats the way I understand it*

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Originally posted by AXiD670
2. Where's the government monopoly on education?
I dunno about the "government monopoly" but when you think about the "good" schools, etc etc, there arent very many minorities in them. People, before you start bashing everythign I'm saying, understand where I am coming from. I can tell you from experience that I went to a VERY GOOD high school, Georgia School of Excellence, etc etc. There were, on the other hand, schools that were MOSTLY minority (if you were white, you were THE minority). Of course, alot of this has to do with the way the school district lines are drawn. Minoirites (at least here in the metroatlanta area) tend to live in close proximity to one another, therefore, most of the kids go to the same school. Maybe thats the monopoly AXiD670 - the way the district lines are drawn, "Keep all the minorities out of our white school" or whatever.

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Originally posted by AXiD670
3. Umm, I thought the point of affirmative action was to prevent women and minorities from being adversely impacted by the good 'ole boy network (see item #1).
Affirmative action blows. If I were a white male with 10 times the qualifications as a minority, AA prevents me from getting the job, which is total crap. Again, the way the statement is written on the shirt is true - democrats thrive on Affirmative Action...if they truly thought that minorities were "equal" then everyone would be treated equally, instead of giving special help to those of color, or those who were women.

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Originally posted by AXiD670
4. I googled my heart out but couldn't find those statistics. Can someone help me with that?
I'll admit, I dont know. But it'd be pretty dang funny if it is true. I wonder if it's actually on the PW website somewhere.

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Originally posted by AXiD670
5. Umm, what?
Liberal policies, in general, such as AA, etc etc etc, prevent minorities from moving forward. Because liberal policies thrive on hand outs and "gimme gimme gimme" crap. It's like....let me think of a good example....sort of like a child who is grown to be dependent on their parents, rather than learning how to be independent and take care of themselves. It's liek the parents have treated that child in such a way, and molded that child to believe that he or she cant survive without the parents, so that child is too afraid to venture out into the world on their own.


I didnt say you had to like my answers, my answers might not be right, but thats the way I perceive them to be. That's why I find it SO FUNNY. Because it is playing on the irony of what liberalism actually is. It's a satire shirt, yeah, thats it.

WCUgirl 09-19-2005 05:47 PM

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Originally posted by amanda6035
Affirmative action blows. If I were a white male with 10 times the qualifications as a minority, AA prevents me from getting the job, which is total crap. Again, the way the statement is written on the shirt is true - democrats thrive on Affirmative Action...if they truly thought that minorities were "equal" then everyone would be treated equally, instead of giving special help to those of color, or those who were women.
Not true. Affirmative action does not prevent employers from hiring the most qualified applicant.

AA should not be used to discriminate against anyone, white, black, male, female, purple or plaid, disability or not, and yes, AA covers veterans.

It's not about whether you think women and minorities are equal, it's about whether you think that guy over there treats women and minorities as his equal. Discrimination is not limited to a particular political party.

I still don't see how having measures in place to examine the hiring/firing/promoting practices of employers to ensure they are not having an adverse impact on minorities and females = Democrats think minorities and women are not equal to, well, white men.

If someone doesn't believe discrimination still goes on in today's workforce, they're pretty naive. It may not always be intentional (i.e., company president hires his neighbor's idiot son who practically failed out of college a la the good 'ole boy network), but it does happen.

KSig RC 09-19-2005 06:24 PM

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Originally posted by amanda6035
Exactly. Liberals want us to be taxed to death to pay for welfare and crap like that. I think what it's saying is that because taxes are so high, it prevents a minority from crawling out of the hole. *I'm not saying it's right, and my explanation for this one might be wrong, but thats the way I understand it*
Your explanation is wrong - you're basing this generalization on the basic difference in intrinsic value of money. Essentially, the first dollar someone makes is more important than the last dollar - or, more properly, the further away from the poverty line someone is, the less each individual dollar above that line is 'worth' in general terms.

Certain across-the-board taxes would thusly affect the poor far more, due to this definition. You cannot argue that 'liberals want us to be taxed to death to pay for welfare and crap' without showing me proof.

Also, if your assertion is that governmental programs are somehow tacit inferences that minorities 'need help' from the government, you are thus stating that minorities are the primary beneficiaries of these programs. Until you can show the accounting that states that these programs do not, in fact, offset the 'increased cost' to the poor, then your argument holds no water.

The onus for this particular proof is on you.

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Originally posted by amanda6035
I dunno about the "government monopoly" but when you think about the "good" schools, etc etc, there arent very many minorities in them. People, before you start bashing everythign I'm saying, understand where I am coming from. I can tell you from experience that I went to a VERY GOOD high school, Georgia School of Excellence, etc etc. There were, on the other hand, schools that were MOSTLY minority (if you were white, you were THE minority). Of course, alot of this has to do with the way the school district lines are drawn. Minoirites (at least here in the metroatlanta area) tend to live in close proximity to one another, therefore, most of the kids go to the same school. Maybe thats the monopoly AXiD670 - the way the district lines are drawn, "Keep all the minorities out of our white school" or whatever.
"When you think about it" you're looking more and more out of touch - I would in fact infer that 'most the good schools' are outside of the 'government monopoly' by virtue of being private.

Regardless, these kind of baseless assumptions do NOT in fact make the point on the shirt true.

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Originally posted by amanda6035
Affirmative action blows. If I were a white male with 10 times the qualifications as a minority, AA prevents me from getting the job, which is total crap. Again, the way the statement is written on the shirt is true - democrats thrive on Affirmative Action...if they truly thought that minorities were "equal" then everyone would be treated equally, instead of giving special help to those of color, or those who were women.
The point of Affirmative Action is that people be treated, on the whole and overall, exactly equally, contrary to your point. I will concede that the implementation is not exactly grand, and I've argued against AA for this very reason on this very board. With that caveat, you're still shooting blanks here.

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Originally posted by amanda6035
Liberal policies, in general, such as AA, etc etc etc, prevent minorities from moving forward. Because liberal policies thrive on hand outs and "gimme gimme gimme" crap. It's like....let me think of a good example....sort of like a child who is grown to be dependent on their parents, rather than learning how to be independent and take care of themselves. It's liek the parents have treated that child in such a way, and molded that child to believe that he or she cant survive without the parents, so that child is too afraid to venture out into the world on their own.
Do you have anything besides a tired, cliched anecdote to support this point? Can you prove to me that 'Liberal policies' prevent minorities from moving forward? Even better - can you provide me a 'Conservative' policy that will enable minorities to move forward?

Can you really separate the effects of these policies on minorities from those effects on whites of similar socioeconomic status? If you can, I'm sure everyone on the planet would love to see it . . .

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Originally posted by amanda6035
I didnt say you had to like my answers, my answers might not be right, but thats the way I perceive them to be. That's why I find it SO FUNNY. Because it is playing on the irony of what liberalism actually is. It's a satire shirt, yeah, thats it.
Hey you don't have to like my answers, but you can't act like these points are true until you address them. That's why I find your posts SO FUNNY. Because it is playing on the irony of politics: that everyone is an expert at THEIR OPINION, and loves to pass an opinion as fact. It's a walking cliche, yeah that's what your posts have become.

-RC
--Registered Republican 1999-present

KSigkid 09-19-2005 07:21 PM

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Originally posted by amanda6035
No, I'd be ignorant if I was a liberal.

Come on - you're giving the rest of us Republicans a bad name here.

kddani 09-20-2005 06:24 AM

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Originally posted by amanda6035
I'll admit, I dont know. But it'd be pretty dang funny if it is true. I wonder if it's actually on the PW website somewhere.

Wait, so you're wearing a t-shirt where you proudly call yourself a White Racist and you admit that you don't even know if what the t-shirt says is true? Moreover, what you claim to understand is so far from educated knowledge on the subject that you don't even fully and accurately understand what you're saying?

If you're going to wear something so incredibly inflammatory where you call yourself a racist, shouldn't you totally understand what you are saying?

How often do you wear this tshirt? Where do you wear it? Most people going to take the time, nor are they usually able if they're just walking past, to read all of your t-shirt. They just see that the person wearing it proudly claims to be a white racist.

I can see how that would dissuade girls from joining your chapter, for example. Not many people, regardless of their political persuasion, want to be associated with a proclaimed racist.

ETA: you go to a school called Southern Polytechnic State University. Had it not been for AA, you likely would've never gone to school there. It would've been much more difficult for women to break the barriers to entry at your school. And also following your AA reasoning, I guess a more qualified white male was denied admission so that you, an underqualified female, could take his spot because of AA.

kddani 09-20-2005 07:50 AM

Also, how do you feel on vets getting preference when it comes to jobs and the like?

amanda6035 09-20-2005 07:59 AM

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Originally posted by kddani
Wait, so you're wearing a t-shirt where you proudly call yourself a White Racist and you admit that you don't even know if what the t-shirt says is true? Moreover, what you claim to understand is so far from educated knowledge on the subject that you don't even fully and accurately understand what you're saying?

If you're going to wear something so incredibly inflammatory where you call yourself a racist, shouldn't you totally understand what you are saying?

How often do you wear this tshirt? Where do you wear it? Most people going to take the time, nor are they usually able if they're just walking past, to read all of your t-shirt. They just see that the person wearing it proudly claims to be a white racist.

I can see how that would dissuade girls from joining your chapter, for example. Not many people, regardless of their political persuasion, want to be associated with a proclaimed racist.

ETA: you go to a school called Southern Polytechnic State University. Had it not been for AA, you likely would've never gone to school there. It would've been much more difficult for women to break the barriers to entry at your school. And also following your AA reasoning, I guess a more qualified white male was denied admission so that you, an underqualified female, could take his spot because of AA.

I would like to applaud all the people participating in this thread who dont understand what sarcasm and satire is. Yeah. The shirt says white racist for the left. It's a jab at the left. WHAT person of the left persuasian in their sane state of mind would actually wear a shirt that called themselves a racist? Obviously, the "joke" is too hard for you to understand, and if you don't "get it" I cant explain it any better that what I've already attempted. It's a JOKE people. It's making fun of the obviously major differences between the left and right ways of thinking. Imagine if a black person (of the left, of course) read the shirt: "...for the left." That black person would probably think: "Wait a minute, I'm a black liberal, and this shirt is saying that white people of liberal persuasian are racist. GRRR!!!!" Get a clue and get a grip, it's a joke.

For your information, I dont actually wear it in public. Hell, I'd get shot if I did. I usually wear it in the privacy of my own home, or in a setting wear I know the people around me think the same thing. I dont wear it to school for that reason miss-know-it-all. I dont need to explain my reasoning to you or anybody else, I think the liberal way of thinking is wrong. I think the shirt is hysterical. But at the same time, I use common sense to realize "hmm, it's probably not a good idea for me to wear this at school." kddani, do you feel proud now? Bashing another organization just because you dont like my beliefs? You dont have to be ugly, but if thats the only way you can get your point across, then good for you.

As far as the AA thing goes - quite frankly, I dont care if affirmative action is the way women were able to initially start going to school there. I dont care. You're reasoning is right - that some qualified white male could have been turned down based on the fact that I'm a woman. But guess what? I met, and exceeded the minimum requirements academically. I disagree with AA because I think that acceptance, or job offers, and everything else related should be based on your skills, and qualifications. Why do you think the high school exit exams are 100% anonymous? You have a unique ID that doesnt state anything about your name age sex and race, they grade the tests and then look up who the ID belongs to and send the results. Thats how it should work. Completely anonymous applications, make the decisions and find out the person it belongs to. And even with that method, I STILL would have made it in to SPSU, because I met at least the minimum requirements to be accepted without having to have a waiver granted.

amanda6035 09-20-2005 08:05 AM

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Originally posted by kddani
Also, how do you feel on vets getting preference when it comes to jobs and the like?
Even as a veteran, I actually dont agree with preference. But the fact is, alot of the jobs that veterans get preference for are because they have had prior experience in that area. It would only be natural to assume that he or she was more qualified for the job. Yeah, the preference is nice. Does that mean I agree with it? No. Qualificiations, skill and ability (which includes prior experience) is all that should be considered. It shouldn't matter if you're male or female or if you're purple or blue. That method would make a person want to strive to achieve more, to have a better education, to have better skills, to be more qualified so that he or she can get the job based on what they know, not who they are.

kddani 09-20-2005 08:06 AM

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Originally posted by amanda6035
I would like to applaud all the people participating in this thread who dont understand what sarcasm and satire is. Yeah. The shirt says white racist for the left. It's a jab at the left. WHAT person of the left persuasian in their sane state of mind would actually wear a shirt that called themselves a racist? Obviously, the "joke" is too hard for you to understand, and if you don't "get it" I cant explain it any better that what I've already attempted. It's a JOKE people. It's making fun of the obviously major differences between the left and right ways of thinking. Imagine if a black person (of the left, of course) read the shirt: "...for the left." That black person would probably think: "Wait a minute, I'm a black liberal, and this shirt is saying that white people of liberal persuasian are racist. GRRR!!!!" Get a clue and get a grip, it's a joke.

For your information, I dont actually wear it in public. Hell, I'd get shot if I did. I usually wear it in the privacy of my own home, or in a setting wear I know the people around me think the same thing. I dont wear it to school for that reason miss-know-it-all. I dont need to explain my reasoning to you or anybody else, I think the liberal way of thinking is wrong. I think the shirt is hysterical. But at the same time, I use common sense to realize "hmm, it's probably not a good idea for me to wear this at school." kddani, do you feel proud now? Bashing another organization just because you dont like my beliefs? You dont have to be ugly, but if thats the only way you can get your point across, then good for you.

As far as the AA thing goes - quite frankly, I dont care if affirmative action is the way women were able to initially start going to school there. I dont care. You're reasoning is right - that some qualified white male could have been turned down based on the fact that I'm a woman. But guess what? I met, and exceeded the minimum requirements academically. I disagree with AA because I think that acceptance, or job offers, and everything else related should be based on your skills, and qualifications. Why do you think the high school exit exams are 100% anonymous? You have a unique ID that doesnt state anything about your name age sex and race, they grade the tests and then look up who the ID belongs to and send the results. Thats how it should work. Completely anonymous applications, make the decisions and find out the person it belongs to. And even with that method, I STILL would have made it in to SPSU, because I met at least the minimum requirements to be accepted without having to have a waiver granted.

So after all of that, you can't answer my questions as to why you wear something that you don't even know if it is correct? Regardless of whether you view it as satire or not, you're wearing something that you don't even know if it's correct. That's like going in and getting a tattoo of Chinese characters and letting the tattoo artist put whichever one on you he wants.

I did not attack your organization, I was giving an example of what kinds of things could be affected by that shirt. I don't know anything about your chapter, and it doesn't matter. I was giving an example of how it's not such a good idea.

And hello pot calling kettle black.... you've been incredibly ugly and hateful in this entire thread. I didn't attack you or anything personal to you. I'm talking about your posts and your reasoning. You can't seem to keep things separate. And you can't seem to have an intelligent discussion without flying off the handle, flipping out, name calling, and personal attacks.


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