Kanye West Rips Into Bush during live feed
 

Any thoughts on this? I'm on the West Coast so we got the edited version since it wasn't live for us but if you check out the link, you can check out what he said.

Kanye West's Comments. Right or Wrong?

Deservedly so.

Probably not professional, but deserved.

It's on bittorent already. Loved Mike Myer's expression when Kayne West said it.

Ditto.

I think there is a time and place for expressing those types of opinions and that wasn't the time and place. Our local NBC station delayed the concert an hour but I saw it live on MSNBC. I thought, when they replayed it on the local station, it would be cut out, but it wasn't. When the Dixie Chicks did something similar (spoke against Bush during a concert), radio stations cut their air time and a big deal was made about it. We'll see what happens this time.

Prior to this hurricane, Bush's approval rating was the lowest it has ever been.

I don't like Kanye West, but tonight he said something that a lot of black folks have thought about the GOP in general, and this President in particular, for a long time.

I applaud him for saying it, though I can't imagine what this will do to his album sales.

Video's here: http://media.putfile.com/Kanye79

Mike Myers face at that moment - hell, during West's whole spiel - is priceless. So polite. So Canadian!

And yeah, even though I agree with what he said, time and place much, Kanye?

Wow! Thanks for that link. I missed the whole thing so it was hard to picture exactly how it happened.

It definitely wasn't the time or place for it but I agree with Kanye.

LOL...Mike Myers' face is priceless. He looks like a mix between a deer caught in headlights and shock.

lots of frustration out there...

So how do you explain the decision to evacuate non-essential medical personnel from the (privately funded) Tulane Hospital, when right down the street, critically ill patients and essential medical personnel were left stranded on the roof of the (public) Charity Hospital - a hospital that mainly serves poor, black, and indigent patients?

The hurricane, flooding, and destruction are not political. How the relief efforts are being handled certainly appear to be.

I don't think this will affect Kanye's album sales THAT much. His audience is quite a bit different from the Dixie Chicks. I imagine they're far less conservative on the whole.

Why not? Desperate times call for desperate measures.

Wow. :( Something tells me I should ignore this thread from now on. My blood pressure won't take it.

I was thinking the same thing. Whenever race is brought up this place goes crazy.

Cosign

I agree. If anything, they'll probably go up.

LOL at the tape delay person who was so busy listening for cuss words that he totally missed this. I would bet someone is wearing a paper hat and learning how to work the french frier this morning. :p

There's a McDonalds right across Sixth Avenue from 30 Rock.

I can understand Kanye's frustration--he was just saying what a lot of people are thinking. When you look at who was unable to evacuate...well, it tells you a lot about the divide in this country. If you're observant you've always known it was there, but this was the first time in a few years that the divide has been so blatant and in your face.

The whole situation is heartbreaking.

The race card is played out.

West is just another idiot trying to capitalize on this tragedy. It's pretty messed up to see someone doing that when their efforst and energy should be used in other more helpful means.

Maybe if the rescue workers could go into these area's without being mobbed or shot at by the people they are trying to help it wouldn't be the tragic situation it is right now.

I have a few friends down there that luckily I have heard from and their stories of how things are going are just sick. If you don't have a weapon to protect yourself, chances are you are going to be robbed of whatever you have.

People are shooting at electric company workers, red cross personel bringing in aid, medics, etc. The national guard can't concentrate on what's important b/c they are escorting people out of the area so they don't get carjacked and killed.

Kanye is bitching about how it's the gov'ts fault but ignoring the real situation of how it is there.

So can you tell us what Bush was doing after Katrina hit New Orleans and flooded it?

Imperial1

Cosign, soror, cosign. :(

*talking to myself*
Now, JB, don't get mad, don't get mad...

No, can you? I'm willing to bet he was trying to figure out how the mayor of NO and governor of LA have managed to be so woefully unprepared to handle a situation that they should have had an effective strategy for.

I'm willing to bet that he was playing guitar, and still on vacation:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/theblo...ush-guitar.jpg

Let's check the date of that photo, shall we? September 1, 2005.

No, he was STILL ON HIS VACATION. So kanye was on point. And due to a recent interview I saw in which someone I met was in the mix in New Orleans, he DEFINITELY was on point.

Imperial1

You can always right-click and view properties for the source.

Imperial1

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/theblo.../01/index.html

ETA: Here's another source: http://www.pensitoreview.com/2005/08...orleans-floods

:( :confused: :(

No matter if that picture is real or not...he was giving a speech for VJ Commemoration Day at Naval Base Coronado on August 30...and that is where the picture says he was. The picture posted by Sistermadly says September 1st because that is when the website published it.

Here is another picture of it...

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...apm10208301856

Hope that helps! :) (Not being a bitch either!!)

Bush Aides Meet With Black Leaders
 

In my opinion, the time and place is CNN, MSNBC, FOX news network, ABC, NBC, CBS, every major news source in the country. The remarks were made during a benefit concert and I still believe that you attract more flies with honey (ie. can raise more money with a hopeful, positive, sympathetic attitude, rather than an angry one). Numerous people have made similar comments on all of the cable news shows, and I agree with the comments.

I think there is no excuse for not having provided a means of evacuation for all of those people. I think there is no excuse to not have had food and water ready to go in by Tuesday. I think there is no reason to have had hospitals trying to operate under those conditions. This was botched big time and lives were lost because of it. We can only hope that we've learned from this one and things will change in the future.

ETA: And I don't buy the photo op propaganda of Bush's visit to Mississippi where he's hugging a young African American girl. How convenient to show that after those comments were made. "See, I care about African Americans, I even hugged one" being the message. :rolleyes:

But opinions change and hearts are won over by carefully constructed photo ops. :rolleyes:

As for me, I'm not buying it. He lost me a long time ago, but when I saw that photo of him playing guitar on vacation while the Gulf Coast was being inundated, I lost what ethereal wisps of respect I could have mustered for the man.

It's an Associated Press photo, shot by Martha Raddatz, taken while Bush was visiting California either on August 31 or September 1, 2005.

But regardless of the date, everybody knew the hurricane was coming - a Category 5, catastrophic event, not just your run of the milll rainstorm. I think the man should have interrupted his photo op to, I don't know, return to Washington ahead of the storm just to make sure that Homeland Security lived up to its mission?

But what do I know - maybe I expect too much from the leader of the free world.

First Kanye, now Celine Dion:

"There's people still there waiting to be rescued. To me that is not acceptable," she yelled. "I know they have reasons for it. But I don't want to hear those reasons. ... How can it be so easy to send planes in another country to kill everybody in a second and destroy lives. We need to serve our country."

Who knew she was an American citizen?

(from http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/09/0...elp/index.html)

I wanted to bow to Kanye when I heard about this. I was at work when this happened. He called folx out and it was well deserved.

I hope his CD sales skyrocket! I will be buying his latest on Friday.

Right now I am listening to Vancouver's news 1130. My friend works for them. There is a poll asking Canadians if they plan on donating. Over 55 percent don't plan on it...I am fine with that. BUT the reasons were disgraceful. The main one was I don't like the US politics. WTF? This is SO not about politics! This is about people being stranded...there are quite a good number of Canadians stranded there too.

The people who have this attitude should be ashamed of themselves

/end vent

Denial is not just a river in Egypt...

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As blatant as the pictures were--live and up front on ALL MEDIA circuits the only point to Hurricane Katrina is to open a whole can of folks who basically kept swept under a rug. Then they got swept down Ole Man River... And I am NOT even close to joking...

And as far as Mayor Nagin preparedness level goes, he has never done disaster relief and has little experience is managing one of the worst natural disasters in the Untied States. That in no way is an excuse. But he did trust the "FEDERAL authorities" to tell him what his city services will be capable of doing when Hurricane Katrina hit... And at best, are you folk pissed of at Kanye West's statements trying to tell me (and only me, not anyone else) that this is the BEST that the FEDS can do for disaster preparedness?

How Mayor Nagin not know that the levees were only built to sustain a category 3 or 4 hurricane is beyond me.

Nevertheless, hindsight is always 20/20...

And the fingerpointing game will be continued after these few words by our commercial (spelled=BIG TICKETED IN THE BILLIONS CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTORS) sponsors... Oh, did I say that out loud... :rolleyes: