Top 3 GLO's you respect on a national level
 

Being a member of LXA, which is a relatively young GLO -founded 1909, I respect SPE for it's impressive development since it's early 20th century founding.

List of others:

SX - overall quality as well as active alumni base
Tie - FIJI/Beta Theta Pi- for their steady conservatice expansion and adherence to tradition

Sigma Chi and Phi Delta Theta for their rich heritage and strong existance within the Fraternity World (not just because they're the second and third legs of the Miami Triad :) ). I also think SAE is tough just due to their size and strength on most campuses.

Delta Sigma Phi of course
Phi Delta Theta
Phi Kappa Psi

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While it is personel criteria, then one should look at all of the criteria before leaving someone out.

What to use: Longevity, Expansion, Size, Numbrer of Alums, Where they are located, How far is the expansion? What are the Risk Management Polocies, Ethnic Polocies, (Most are pretty well stated in both of these instences).

The Union Triad are well thought of but did not expand like the Miami Triad. They too quit expansion for a while.

Not know enough about All of The National Fraternitys, it is really hard to select just 3.

How can any one snub, SN, TKE, BTP, TX, PDT, Fiji, STG,Etc.

Not putting you down at all.

Other than my own:

Iota Phi Theta
Omega Psi Phi
Alpha Phi Alpha

Sig Ep
Kappa Kappa Gamma
Alpha Phi Alpha

Being a FIJI myself, I will choose 3 other fraternities.

In no special order...

1. Beta Theta Pi
2. Theta Chi
3. Sigma Chi

Theta Phi Alpha
Kappa Kappa Gamma
Sigma Nu

Hmmm...
 

Tough one... Of course, I respect my own... TKE has the most active chapters in the nation (not to mention canada) - with that said, im gonna go ahead and criticize Sig Ep for claiming that theyre the largest...

But im gonna go ahead and commend them for trying to be... or even getting close.. LOL... :D :p

No, but seriously... I respect the other of the top fraternities nationally as our competition...

I respect Sigma Nu (also because the Sigma Nus that I have met have all been classy - cant say that about everyone), Sigma Chi, Lambda Chi (mostly because of Tom Earp :D , Pi Kappa Alpha and yes, even SAE...

For women, I love Delta Gamma (im the Anchorman for their chapter at my school - so im biased), Chi Omega, Kappa Kappa Gamma, Alpha Chi Omega, etc...

Respect
 

SAE, SIGMA CHI AND DELTA TAU DELTA have done a very good job over a long period time

I think for me the important thing is to differentiate between national organization practices and local biases.

I really think that several of the chapters I dont' particularly have a lot of respect for on my campus are still pretty good nationally.

For example, I love the Nebraska APhis, but everything I've heard about the national organization is weaker compared to others (not to be a hater...just what I've heard).

As for National orgs I really respect:

Phi Delt (for dropping out of NIC on principle even though I don't necessarily agree)
Ditto Kappa Sig
SAE

Tri Delt
PiPhi
Gamma Phi

I can't narrow down 3. But there are 25 other sororities in my conferece that are pretty sweet. ;)

ok....
 

Alpha Kappa Alpha:D
Alpha Phi Alpha:cool:
Delta Sigma Theta:)

I concur. :)

Rho Rho Rho
Lambda Lambda Lambda
Delta Tau Chi

Respected Orgs
 

Tri Lambda and Delta House, yes, I agree. But how can you respect Rho Rho Rho?

Now the Alpha Betas, I bet they have some great alumni support!

COSIGN!! ;)



Seriously, how many people on GreekChat have really had to deal with more than one National/International Greek Organization.

I find this entire thread EXTREMELY insulting.

Re: Respected Orgs
 

They have the best national skits. Who else would've came up with: Rho rho rho your boat?

Why?

I think that people can probably articulate their reasons for admiring these GLOs. For example, I admire Kappa for their clear support to their chapters, not only keeping them open when another national organization might have closed them, but providing the support to help the same chapters become viable again. (I admire DG for the same thing, and for their commitment to "reorganizing" struggling chapters without kicking out any of the members they feel aren't pulling their own weight.) The Alphas obviously command respect for paving the way for the eventual NPHC, and from everything I know about Sigma Phi Epsilon they are constantly working with innovative programs trying to make Greek life stronger in all possible ways.

I don't think there's anything insulting about this thread. Nobody's saying they DON'T respect the GLOs that they don't name. There are plenty of other programs that I have respect for -- Delta Gamma, Kappa Sig, etc. -- that weren't mentioned in my post. It's just that the three I mentioned were the first to come to mind. I don't have to have experience dealing directly with members of their HQ to know whether or not I admire the policies they're putting forth on a national level.

Alpha Phi Alpha - About to celebrate 100 years, first African American Fraternity
Theta Nu Xi- Have grown greatly in a small amount of time
Gamma Omega Delta- I have witnessed their struggles as a org and its inspirational

Why do you hate free speech?

Why do you hate America?

Kappa Alpha Order
Sigma Nu
Sigma Chi

What's wrong with respect
 

Honey Chile I have to disagree with you, there is nothing wrong with praising a friendly competitor.

When I say I respect a GLO I mean it, and I mean no disrespect to any other organization. With regards to your observation that most individuals don't have anything but limited knowledge of other GLO's, note I did not list any womens groups because i really don't feel I know female GLO's all that well.

No, I hate ignorance. People are listing locals, which may be wonderful in their one chapter, but don't really have the experience to be "respected on a national level".

There are several GLOs I respect on a national level, due to their philanthropies, the way they maintain their leadership roles, their patterns of colonization or closing chapters, etc, etc. There are people I may not particularly care for on GreekChat who belong to a wonderfully strong national GLO, and vice versa.

I just don't think this (Major Recruitment Season) is the time to discuss it. I'm allowed an opinion, right?

Quote:

Why do you hate America?

*shakes head* You just proved how little you really know.

LOL, what the hell?????

:o

other then my own


SigEp
Lamda Chi
Sigma Chi

Re: What's wrong with respect
 

Please excuse my above attempt at humor. Some folks got it :)

Seriously though, 3 organizations I have national respect for besides my own:

TKE, PKA and KS -- I'm very much in awe of their expansion programs. While TKE of the 3 in my oponion probably gives their new chapters the fewest tools for success, they make up for it by founding so freakin' many new chapters. They're going to run out of schools to colonize at one of these days :) The other two in my observation have done incredible jobs with their expansion/recolonization efforts. Their national officers do a great job of organizing local alums, chapters, etc. for recolonization or colonization.

Having been a significant part of my chapter's colonization, and having received no more than a phone call per semester and an annual visit from IHQ, I see a huge difference in how we initially succeeded vs. how PKA's colonization effort, for example succeeded. There was a huge difference between 5 advisors setting up residence, transfers coming in from other chapters, etc. vs recruiting a dozen guys, handing them some books and telling them "Good luck".

-- to be fair, our colonization practices have completely changed from the method I just described. I honestly have no idea how well our system works these days.

But of course...

Alpha Delta Pi!!!!!!!!!!!

sorry wrong post

Wha?
 

While I agree that we expand to just about everywhere, I have to disagree with the first part...

The problem with some TKE chapters is that they don't utilize the tools and resources that they are provided... There are alumni boards, province advisors, Grand Province Advisors, Province Educational Conferences, Regional Conferences, Rush Coaches, guest speakers - you name it - list goes on... But some smaller chapters don't use these things to their full extent...

Honey My Dear, watch some Old Movies= Animal House and Revenge of the Nerds!:)

A lot depends on the Executive Director and The People who are put into Place for Polocies of What, When, and Why for expansion and Keeping Chapters.

Granted, Most of Us do not know about the workings of each individual National GLOs Programs, but there are a very few of us on GC who do Keep in Contact with other National Hqs.

I will not or ever can speak of thier Polocies of thier GLOs and is not My Place or any others.

While I work with Mine in a small way, I do keep in touch with some others.

I hate to say it, but You were out of line in Your Comments.;)

We all Live and Learn from each Other.:cool:

Re: Wha?
 

Excuse my ignorance then. I only get to see the end product when it comes to TKE chapters, not the process :)

I have some reservations about the "wide net" that they cast, and that in some instances, the organization appears to be spread a bit too thin (low degree of control over chapters).

On the other hands, I admire that they are willing to spread the net in the first place, I find value in that the organization is very aggressive and accepting when it comes to founding new chapters.

These two things may explain why TKE is the biggest in terms of chapters, but near the bottom in terms of average chapter size.

I honsetly wish that my organization would learn a lesson in terms of aggressive expansionism from the likes of TKE and PKA. While we have improved a lot in recent years, we're nowhere close to any of the organizations I've listed. I haven't been keeping track, but I wouldn't be surprised if we're closing more chapters than we're opening.

Mistakes...
 

It kind of evens out... The average is smaller, because the sheer number includes smaller chapters at smaller schools...

Don't be fooled though - biggest chapter in our region is USC which has close to 140+ guys with a $14,000 T-shirt budget alone...

University of Washington has close to 180+ guys...

It's schools where we have chapters like at Cal State San Marcos, where there are only 2 Fraternities on campus, that hurt the average...
And the small schools...

But yeah, I say it evens out because we do have that big number of chapters - which includes small schools that bring the average down...

But I can tell you first hand that the support is there... My chapter, which is alright - talks to someone from the Grand Chapter on a weekly, if not tri-weekly basis (for you geniuses out there, that's three times a week)...
My chapter pres. talks to them at least 4 times a week...

Re: Mistakes...
 

Impressive.

A whole lot of us.

But, for some people, respecting an organization on a national level could just mean people have read their websites and have a deep respect for the philanthropy and program thrusts. No criteria was set for how people determine which orgs they respect.

Don't be insulted, unless no one mentioned your organization. Just kidding. :p

LOL.

By sheer definition, it is silly to list locals. I actually laughed out loud when you pointed that out (and your comment about ignorance) because I agree with you. I was thinking to myself "I haven't even HEARD of some of these organizations."

Where are there locals listed in this thread?? :confused: Every group I've seen is national.

I do agree that recruitment season may not be the best time for this thread as obviously not every org is represtented. I would just hate to think that some little PNM might read and think, "Wow no one mentioned ABC, does that mean they aren't a good org to be in?" I know it sounds out there- but I just think that would suck.

And naturally, we have not all had experience with all the other orgs. I know almost nothing about Tri-sig for example, because it was not on our campus or any other that I was close to. So, I would not be able to include them in a list of orgs I have respect for simply because I don't know. But I am sure that they have many wonderful aspects worthy of respect. I think this might be something that Honeychile is talking about. (Honey, if it's not I'm sorry I don't want to speak for you.)

Complete honesty- the org I have the most respect for is my own- mainly because it is the one that I know most about and am closest to. But there are also others that I have respect for because I have delt with some of them, though I know nothing about their national workings. There are also some orgs that I am sure are AMAZING nationally but I have lost some respect for simply because of the members on my campus that I had to deal with. It is completely subjective and while I personally am not offended, I can understand how someone might be.

I much prefered the "List something nice about all the NPS orgs" thread.


P.S. I like Pi Delta Pi. ;)

A question in my mind is how many responders actually know very much about organizations beyond what they see on their own campus.

Some do, of course. Many don't.

Then again, I've long thought that this kind of question generally causes dis-harmony.

I think I've created a new word.

I totally ditto this.