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DSTinguished1 08-15-2005 11:35 AM

G. Craig Lewis?
 
Hey has anybody heard of a guy named G. Craig Lewis??

This past weekend I went to Columbus to visit some friends of mine and they invited me to a service at their church on Saturday. There was this guy, named G. Craig Lewis who was speaking about the Truth of Hip Hop and stuff like that. I was told that he has two videos out about this topic and that he has spoken all over the world including college campuses on this issue. (However, I never heard of him until Saturday)

I was wondering if anybody has heard of him and if so what was your take on his views and messages. Apparently he has a website -> ExMinistries Please check it out and let me know. I will post my opinion later just wanted to hear some other opinions first.

Thanks;)

Proverbs31 08-15-2005 04:35 PM

Were you at the service at New Covenant? I was supposed to go to that but I was stuck typing a paper.:( My friend said that she's heard him speak before but a lot of what he says is based on his opinion and not so much biblical.

How was the message?

DSTinguished1 08-15-2005 08:20 PM

Yeah I think that was the name of the church. But I agree with your friend it was a lot of opinion. I am a new Christian so I don't know a lot about the Bible, so I wasnt sure if it was all fact or opinion. It left me confused and little frustrated. We ended up leaving early so I dont know how it ended.

A soror from Howard told me he came to their campus dogging Greek Life, so he really left a bad taste in her mouth.

It doesnt seem like a lot of people has heard of him, from this post...but apparently he has been around to a lot of campuses.

1flypoodle 08-16-2005 03:00 AM

I've seen one of his videos and in my opinion the things G. Craig Lewis speaks on are very controversial and some of his statements do make sense. But on the other hand some of it is based off of opinion because not only does he attack secular artists, but gospel artists and pastors...and he didn't have a scripture to back up everything. (Not saying every gospel artist and pastor is legit, but I disagreed with some of his information.)

But overall the topics he covered were very informative and I think it's worth watching. I'm curious as to what he said in part II.

DSTinguished1 08-16-2005 12:19 PM

yeah it was definitely very informative and there was some things he talked about that really gave me some insight. And besides, God has already been working with me and my music issue.

However, I do not think it is a SIN to listen to secular music, although some music is very disstasteful. I can't even listen to the Ying Yang Twins without something negative stirring up in my soul.

Great insight...thanks for posting 1flypoodle!

Dvyne Evolushun 08-19-2005 03:25 AM

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Originally posted by DSTinguished1

However, I do not think it is a SIN to listen to secular music,

I don't think so either. It just depends on what you're listening to - i.e. explicit themes can be very impressionable.

I watched the clip. I still stand by my belief that the average church hymn does not appeal to everyone. For instance, when I was a babe in Christ, I could not relate to the Canton Sprituals, whereas it took listening to Kirk Frankilin or Mary Mary's style to get me in a mode of worship. To be honest, that's still the style of gospel music that I prefer.

I wonder - does he offer a solution to bring more souls to Christ vs. just tearing down other christians (someone mentioned that he criticized pastors, and I saw where a pic of Tonex was flashed) ?

btb87 08-19-2005 08:21 AM

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Originally posted by DSTinguished1
I am a new Christian so I don't know a lot about the Bible. . .
[baby hijack]

Congratulations! Just one thing. . . watch where you are fed. Many times, people put their own twist on the Bible to make it sound like gospel. That's why you have to study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. (2 Timothy 2:15)

[end baby hijack]

UrbanizdSkillz 08-20-2005 08:06 PM

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Originally posted by btb87
[baby hijack]

Congratulations! Just one thing. . . watch where you are fed. Many times, people put their own twist on the Bible to make it sound like gospel. That's why you have to study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. (2 Timothy 2:15)

[end baby hijack]

BIIIIIIIIIIIIIG Ditto!

unknown2u 08-23-2005 02:07 PM

Hey my church brought G. Graig Lewis to speak for our Youth Revival. He was very good! He talked a lot about Hip Hop culture, and how music affects what we think and do. I thought he was an excellent speaker. I think some people do not like him because he brings conviction and no one likes being convicted. He annointed all of the youth at the end of the service and I can truly say that my life has been soooo much better. I am sorry for those who were offended but a lot of what he says is the truth. :D

DST_19 08-23-2005 02:52 PM

I have seen the first part and I would like to see the second part. It was informative and true. Some the things he was speaking on was definitely true. I do agree with him when it comes to gospel artist and preachers involving themselves in such music. This scriptures talks about us being holy because God is holy. We should also be holy because God is royality and ahe be given the highest respect. I am not trying to having a sermon going forth....

1Peter 1:14-16

14 As obedient children, not fashioning yourselves according to the former lusts in your ignorance: 15 But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation; 16 Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy.

unknown2u 08-23-2005 08:44 PM

^^^Excellent Scriptures! I totally agree!:)

Rain Man 08-31-2005 12:37 AM

Saw the DVD of Craig Lewis at bible study tonight
 
It was very good and shockingly accurate.

The whole point of his message on the Spirit of Hip Hop was that a lot of these secular artists are working with gospel artists and making these songs about and praising "God" (what God?; it certainly isn't Jesus). The is the enemy's attempt to infiltrate the church with these demonic hip hop spirits under the guise of praising Jesus. Why? Because up until recently, the church was an untapped market for many of these artists and an unventured avenue.

Further, if the church gets infiltrated with these spirits, there will be a stronghold that will be much harder to remove than it was to develop.

I don't know if I am making sense of this or not, but if these secular artists don't want to get delivered and claim Jesus as Lord, they have no business performing in the church. Period.

Tickled Pink 2 08-31-2005 12:44 AM

Re: Saw the DVD of Craig Lewis at bible study tonight
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Rain Man
It was very good and shockingly accurate.

The whole point of his message on the Spirit of Hip Hop was that a lot of these secular artists are working with gospel artists and making these songs about and praising "God" (what God?; it certainly isn't Jesus). The is the enemy's attempt to infiltrate the church with these demonic hip hop spirits under the guise of praising Jesus. Why? Because up until recently, the church was an untapped market for many of these artists and an unventured avenue.

Further, if the church gets infiltrated with these spirits, there will be a stronghold that will be much harder to remove than it was to develop.

I don't know if I am making sense of this or not, but if these secular artists don't want to get delivered and claim Jesus as Lord, they have no business performing in the church. Period.


You make sense. I guess I have to see the DVD. Why did he have Tonex up there, though? He does claim Jesus Christ as Lord & Savior. As a matter of fact - did you see the Stellar Awards?

DSTinguished1 08-31-2005 09:49 AM

Far as the Tonex thing he (Craig Lewis) mentioned him in his first video because Tonex had a very interesting interview where he was saying some strange stuff. But I think that Tonex when he first came out was trying to be tooo radical and different. However, now that he is a little bit older I think that he has toned down a lot. Now is that reason to "out" him?? I don't think so.

Now I do agree with Rainman I think we as Christians are trying to camaflouge (sp?) tooo much with the world. To the point that if say that you are a Christian people be like so what I am too and you can see clearly through there lifestyle that they are not. The Bible says you can tell a tree by the fruit it produces.;)

unknown2u 08-31-2005 09:53 AM

I agree with mostly everyone. However, I think that the lyrics of the song are more important then who is actually singing the song...does that make sense?

So if R.Kelly can make a gospel cd (which he did:rolleyes: ) But the lyrics are edifying then I definitely believe that someone could be drawn closer to God through the message and not just the messenger.

Anyone agree or understand??

Rain Man 08-01-2006 01:30 PM

G. Craig Lewis returning to Columbus to speak at my church
 
I am happy to announce that my church (Ambassador Ministries) will be co-hosting and will be providing the facilities for G. Craig Lewis to speak on "The Truth about Hip Hop" on Friday, August 25 at 7 p.m.

And while I was supposed to be spending the evening tabulating scores for another event that same night, I will havta tell them, maybe next year. I was fascinated by the DVDs I saw of his message, and I plan to buy some if he brings them.

Heck, I will be attending a golf outing that day and I may have to skip the awards banquet to check this out (either that or "eat and run"). I am really really pumped.

ETA: Here is our church's website if you want more info:

Ambassador Ministries Website

pinkies up 08-01-2006 08:03 PM

Rain Man,

I'm glad I can finally understand one of your posts. Let me know how the event went. I have never heard of Mr. Lewis before, but he sounds interesting.

Individual 09-11-2006 02:54 PM

RE: Craig G. Lewis
 
I have seen Craig Lewis many times. The time he came to NC he pretty much used scripture and the 10 commandments to support his points. I recall him saying that all GLO idolize other gods which violates the first and second christian principals which are the 10 commandments. I think most people in the Church knew he was right but do not or didn't want to give up what they were doing because of the sense of wanting to be apart of some group. A lady asked told him all the women that were positive in her life were DSTs so it couldn't be wrong. He did reply that they would probably be strong if they were or not in a GLO but wrong is wrong. I would recommend that you do see him if he is in your area so you can decide for yourself, rather than look for answers here because I think most people on this board would think whatever they are doing as far as organizations is based off christian principals.

ladygreek 09-11-2006 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Individual
I recall him saying that all GLO idolize other gods which violates the first and second christian principals which are the 10 commandments.

And he would be wrong.

Individual 09-12-2006 08:53 AM

Who is the person on the top of the DST seal, is this not a greek goddess? One of the sites he posted showed it was:

http://www.csugreeks.com/Chapter%20P...SigmaTheta.htm

Is this not recognizing other Gods? He also said that during many rituals a person had to state that they would be under the shadow of Minerva. Is this again not recognizing another god/goddess. He also stated who the elephant represented and showed that is was in the appendix (I think A) of the rights and rituals book for DST.

The main thing I was doing was giving someone information on Mr. Lewis and how he does state truth but the best thing was to see him and get your own individual take. I, myself have seen many rights and rutual books of GLOs that friends have shown me that admitted that it was just a college thing for them, so I was able to reference many of Mr. Lewis's quotes and book cites.

ladygreek 09-12-2006 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Individual (Post 1318736)
Who is the person on the top of the DST seal, is this not a greek goddess? One of the sites he posted showed it was:

http://www.csugreeks.com/Chapter%20P...SigmaTheta.htm

Is this not recognizing other Gods? He also said that during many rituals a person had to state that they would be under the shadow of Minerva. Is this again not recognizing another god/goddess. He also stated who the elephant represented and showed that is was in the appendix (I think A) of the rights and rituals book for DST.

We do not worship nor idolize Minerva, nor do we put her before God (use the right terminology if you are going to reference the Bible.) As the website stated she is a symbol--one depicting wisdom--nothing more, nothing less. And she is not atop our seal. BTW, did you notice that the website had our founding date wrong? Or did you believe everything you read on there, although it was not a Delta website. As for the ritualistic stuff he stated, again he is WRONG.

And the elephant in our Rights and Ritual book? Okay this made me crack up, especially since there is no such document. But just out of curiousity who did he say the elephant represented? I may need to enlighten our leaders on this.

So unless you can quote directly from Delta's or any other BGLO's official documents, I suggest you stay silent on such things and quit parroting an unreliable source.

I thank Him 09-18-2006 10:45 PM

G. Craig Lewis is the Truth
 
It's amazing how us young people are quick to doubt something. The majority of people that posted a comment up here believe that Craig was just stating his own "opinion" but the fact of the matter is he DID have scriptures to back everything he said about someone up. There are DVD's you can purchase. For example... he was saying that they were bringin "HOLY HIP HOP" into the church. NOw think... Hip Hop... since when has it been positive? how can you take hip hop and put it in church? now also about Tonex.... has anyone seen his DVD/album? When it first comes on he has his "Fans" emerged into fire and he comes out the sky as their salvation.. since when did anyone but the lord jesus christ come to people salvation? Now you dont have to take Craig's word for it just pick up the bible guarantee its all there. God says his people will vanish from the LACK of knowledge

ladygreek 09-18-2006 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by I thank Him (Post 1323099)
It's amazing how us young people are quick to doubt something.

ROTFL

BTW, I am not of the Christian faith, but I too thank Him--God.

unknown2u 09-19-2006 10:34 AM

The Truth About Myspace!!!
 
If you have kids on myspace or if you are on myspace then please click here:

http://www.exsound.com/excast/EXCAST5MIX.mp3 :eek:

I thank Him 09-19-2006 01:55 PM

WOW
 
I’m afraid to ask what God you’re speaking of. Notice how everyone is quick to throw God into something… especially the “rappers” or “Hip Hop Artist” I like to thank God for this and that… people are so fooled.. Not knowing Satan is a God I had to underline A for the simple fact there is a difference between a God and THE God. But do you ever hear Jesus? Also, Christianity is the only religion that accepts god as their lord in savior…and that accepts everyone. anyone can have a religion make a religion whatever but that’s all it is A RELIGION. You can claim whatever religion you want to… when you say you are a CHRISTIAN that’s saying you accept Jesus. Now has anyone done any research on sororities and fraternities? Wow I hope you aren’t black because that will bring fact to the saying " if you want to hide something from a black person put it in a book". Don't get alarmed i am black myself. What do those Greek symbols mean? Can you tell me? Definition of a Fraternity/Sorority is “The name that applies to all Greek-letter organizations that are characterized by ritual, a pin, and a strong sense of friendship. A ritual? Definition-a system or collection of religious or other rites, a book containing the offices to be used by priests in administering the sacraments and for visitation of the sick, burial of the dead, etc.Yes im only 19 but I didn’t make this stuff up… Research. Ya’ll have the Greek letters…. Representing the Greek gods. So that's good you thank God but do you thank Jesus. He's the one that died for everyone sins.Another thing... you say you dont worship some god in you sorority that she is merely a "symbol" point? false worship can be a piece of paper, a toy, i person, a symbol even. what book you looking at where u dont see a elephant lol

CrimsonTide4 09-19-2006 02:03 PM

Why do people continue to join Greekchat to preach to us?:confused:

LET IT BE CLEAR: Anyone who posts ANY ritualistic (whether it be true or false) information about Delta Sigma Theta or the other members of the NPHC will have their post deleted and their membership on GC banned.

ProspeKt 09-19-2006 02:16 PM

Seven Reasons Why Craig Lewis and Ex Ministries Has Duped the Church into Believing Him

Honeykiss1974 09-19-2006 02:29 PM

I'll have to check this G Craig Lewis out for myself and see how it lines up with the word.

Interesting stuff though...

Steeltrap 09-19-2006 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrimsonTide4 (Post 1323434)
Why do people continue to join Greekchat to preach to us?:confused:

LET IT BE CLEAR: Anyone who posts ANY ritualistic (whether it be true or false) information about Delta Sigma Theta or the other members of the NPHC will have their post deleted and their membership on GC banned.

((applauds))

pinkies up 09-19-2006 03:46 PM

Thank you CrimsonTide4!! For a minute I thought I was logged into the Jim and Tammye Faye Bakker chatroom!


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