Just a friendly reminder
 

Hi Ladies!

I just want to post a friendly reminder to everyone that our organizations are being represented by our actions on this board (whether we like it or not).

Re: Just a friendly reminder
 

Couldn't have said it better myself! Kudos, pinkyphimu!

I think this reminder should also include PNAMs. While they do not yet have letters to represent, their actions are representative of themselves -- which could help or hinder their chances of "finding their home".

PNAMs should be aware of this, but my message was not for them. It was for the sorority women out there posting.

And I don't care.

*I* posted because *I* thought the same idea should include PNAMs as well.

And that's *MY* opinion.

Sorority women already know they're representing their letters. This goes even way beyond the AI subforum.

This thread is dumb.

Are you sure they are all aware????

I'd say yes.

Whether or not they choose to follow the ways of your liking is another story.

I am an AGD. I also choose not to attach my letters to the majority of posts. Whatever I say online that might raise eyebrows is because it's what I think and everyone knows I don't ever speak on behalf of my Fraternity. I'm not going to refrain from saying something if I truly feel it needs to be said -- even if I have one of my Big Squirrels breathing down my back (and it's happened before).

If anyone ever thinks poorly of my Fraternity because of something I might have said, well...you know where they can go. :rolleyes:

I feel like when anyone says such and such is a "reflection on your letters," it really means that sorority women should be meek and polite at all costs. Really, though, isn't such a statement sort of passive-aggressive in that it is insinuating that others are not behaving as well as the poster thinks is ideal?

Me either...which is why I started this thread in the first place. Unfortunately, in the last few weeks I have seen a great deal of behavior which truly reflects greek life in a negative light. I think that members' behavior in this forum reflects less on their own organizations than it does on greek life as a whole. It is also a poor reflection to collegiate members of alumnae life.

FOR REAL.

People need to stop caring how people "represent" letters which, in many cases, aren't even theirs. My sisters or my HQ can give me a heads up if they have a problem with how I "represent" myself. Strangely enough, no Tri Delta has ever said anything about the way I conduct myself online, and I've never had to say anything to a sister. They're big girls. They can represent themselves.

Every time someone says "Be careful of how you represent your letters!" I started to care a little bit less. . . .

And I'll even help pay their airfare.

You're right on target, PinkyPhiMu.

The posts here of late have been reprehensible. Frankly, I am quite shocked to see a band of women so intent on hurting others. Is this what the Greek system is all about?

I thought being Greek meant promoting sisterhood and brotherhood, helping others, and living your ritual.

Maybe I'm mistaken since I've only "been in ZTA for five minutes."

It means all of those things, but I don't remember hearing anything in my ritual about being a brainless, spineless puppet who can't express a differing opinion, or who can only spout sunshine and rainbows instead of telling people how I really feel about something.

Another Friendly Reminder
 

Yet another friendly reminder:

It's just a message board, people. It isn't that deep.

(I would've used the vernacular, but heaven forbid someone think that Alpha Phi initiated someone who didn't use perfect grammar!)

Rock on with yo bad self. I agree completely.

I'm all for the expression of different opinions on here (or anywhere). However, there's a big difference between expressing a differing opinion and being rude. Some people seem to have forgotten that.

The other problem is that posters aren't just expressing a differing opinion -- they're attacking the poster or making snide comments about the poster's opinion.

Word. I think the entire creation of this thread is passive-aggressively aimed towards a few people on this board, and not all of us as a whole.

I am smart enough to look at everyone's comments, attitudes and opinions here and know that they are that person's personal comments, attitudes and opinions and not that of their organization, or any other group they may belong to.

I also was assuming (perhaps incorrectly?) that most other GC posters and lurkers were that intelligent.

It would be kind of sad if there were only, like, 10 people that smart here. Not a good advertisement for college educations! Someone might read it and think badly of your school for not educating you properly, and that will give posters here a bad impresson.

We are representing our schools educational abilities in everything we post here, we don't want to make them look bad!

;)

I really love my sisters. :)

And they love you back =)

my reasoning for creating this thread certainly is not aimed at the entire board. it is in fact directed to the people who seem to think that expressing their opinion is the same as being rude and nasty to people as well as attacking others for having a differing opinion.

quite frankly, i am trying to be polite. we have been doing a fabulous job of providing evidence to support the stereotype of snotty sorority bitches. as i mentioned previously, it is less of a reflection on alpha phi or agd, but more on all sororities in general. my non-greek friends reading this board would say that this is exactly why they never wanted to join a sorority...because of "those" girls.

the majority of the drama on this board is being caused by a few people who want to get rid of tom earp as a moderator. let's call a spade a spade, ladies. i imagine that there is a more professional/ appropriate way to deal with that then attacking other members of the community.

Oh, but we can't call a spade a spade in case someone feels that it's not right to be honest as it reflects badly upon our organizations that we are allowed to express our personal opinions, however unpopular or un-PC they may be.

Let's call it a Purdy Pink Fluffy Flowery Spade of Love and Sisterhood instead.

i can't say you have been calling a spade a spade by attacking other people for expressing their opinions when your problem is with tom earp and his position as a moderator.

Nobody ever said you can't express your opinion, as long as one attacks an IDEA and not the PERSON. There are some people here who don't seem to know the difference.

I said this at the beginning of this whole silliness.... and I'll say it again.... The proper thing to do would have been to PM Tom with any concerns regarding the forum.

If no satisfaction was reached with Tom, then the next step should have been to PM John and settle it with him.

All of this should have been handled PRIVATELY. This never should have become a public lynching.

My only issue with Tom is his lack of knowledge with NPC AI procedures, and my wish that a mod with that knowledge be appointed in this forum. There is no moderator in this forum currently. I have no problem with him being the moderator of the Alumni Involvement forum, I just wish we had a moderator of our own in here.

My other issue is his odd refusal to do a simple request I made to move some threads in here - some very helpful threads regarding AI - some of which I was hoping I could bump up to get this forum talking about other issues.

But apparently it's more fun for people to post threads like this instead.

Unfortunately, when I contacted Tom (via PM and this board) about moving some old threads in here (to get us talking about other stuff) he said I was haraguing him, doing his unpaid job and causing shit.

John unfortunately isn't around very much, and neither is the other Alumni Involvement forum moderator.

This forum is currently unmoderated...which is a shame as it could use some direction.

As I understand it, John appoints moderators. If he "isn't around much," then what is accomplished by this public lynching? Isn't he the one who appoints moderators? Do you not agree that taking any complaints directly and privately to John would have accomplished more? As it is, some people have given themselves black eyes, and have ruined any credibility they may have had.

As far as the forum getting direction.. it *HAD* direction, before all of this ugliness started.

But, yes, I do agree with you on one point.. it needs some direction NOW.. it needs to have some ugly threads purged and some people suspended.

Please.

Nothing said in the AI subforum merits "suspension". :rolleyes:

Just because what was said in the forum isn't to your liking doesn't mean people should be banned. Grow a thicker spine.

B?¬q&\i]Originally posted by OTW [/i]
Please.

Nothing said in the AI subforum merits "suspension". :rolleyes:

Just because what was said in the forum isn't to your liking doesn't mean people should be banned. Grow a thicker spine. [/QUOTE]

You just proved my point.... yet another personal attack.

Waah.
 

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BAN ME.

FYI, there's an ignore button if you don't want to read someone's posts.

Just because you don't like what someone says or how they say it doesn't mean they need to be "suspended".

If you don't like it, want to avoid reading it and don't want to be involved in any "personal attacks" use the ignore button.

Has it been changed to where we can ignore mods yet?

It's pretty sad when the moderators who are responsible for ensuring the terms of service are followed are the ones who can't be ignored, especially when they're the very ones dishing out personal attacks.

Isn't it ironic that a thread meant to stop arguing just lead to more of it? Seriously, unless any of us have been contacted by our HQ reguarding what we've said here, I really don't think it's an issue. People know enough to take their letters out of their signatures if they don't want them to be associated with what they say here.

Again, in the words of my dear Sistermadly, "it just ain't that deep." (Oh dear, what a poor reflection on Sigma and Kappa Phi I have been by using "ain't") :p

again another problem....at least 3 of the people dishing out attacks are mods. hmmm....

yep....and notice that several of the members who have been doing the aruging and attacking elsewhere are the same ones arguing and attacking here?

I think you'd have bigger issues than that. It would mean that your friends disregarded everything you've ever done in person, everything you've done as a real live person (not as words on a message board) and given more credence to some invisible people who they don't even know.

If someone doesn't want to join my Fraternity because of something they've seen on a message board, or because of something I've written on a message board then good! Let the door hit 'em on the way out. They're entitled.

But the minute someone attacks the Creed of my Fraternity and calls into question whether my sisters are living up to that Creed, then yes, I'm going to say something.

Attacking people. Sister, please. Let me provide a definition of ad hominem (i.e., an ad hominem attack): attacking an opponent’s motives or character rather than the policy or position they maintain.

I don't see anywhere in this thread where said "So and so is a stupid trout-smelling fig for saying that" or saying "Man, you're dumb as a boat full of drunken Republicans if you believe you don't represent your Fraternity!". All I've seen is people arguing about the logic of these arguments. They've been passionate arguments, but they're not personal attacks. But honestly, maybe I've missed something. It's early, and I'm not wearing my glasses.

I'm serious. It's just a MESSAGE BOARD. Why do people take this isht so seriously?

Yup, people are being strung up from trees, their privates cut off, and set on fire. Yep, that's exactly what's happening here.

(Nice try with the hyperbole, though.)

Jocelyn, I think I love you. *LOL* :D

Folks, can't we all agree to disagree on this thread and move on? Seriously, there are clearly a couple of differing factions that just are not going to agree on this particular topic. Suffice it to say that just like anything else, there's probably been a bit more discussed/requested via PM than may be assumed from some of the prior posts.

It's a message board, folks. Use the 'ban' button if necessary and ignore a poster who you don't agree with if you are unable to ban them. Thanks for your support.

PS--just because someone is a moderator, it doesn't mean anything except in the forum or forums in which they moderate. Moderators should be able to post their personal thoughts, opinions, feelings in a thread just like any other member. Just my dime's worth.

I love you.

And seriously, I don't think "Grow a thicker spine" counts as a personal attack, but apparently my opinion is not valid, so . . .