Fat people and being a christian
 

*Disclaimer-I just got back from the gym*


Lately I keep seeing the same thing over and over again. Everytime I'm stuck in traffic I end up behind some car that says "God's plan for you" or "Life is short, pray hard" or something of the like on their bumper or back windshield. Now I'm not knocking God (or whatever name you call him by) at all. But what I find appalling is that everytime I see one of those stickers the person driving always ends up being some fat woman that looks like she's got the cold cuts from lunch seeping through her neck. And today I just couldn't take it anymore. For some reason I had an ass moment and decided to react instead of thinking of the other person. I pulled around this human pig of a female and creeped up next to her. I rolled my windows down and she looked over at me. Her windows were down, too. So in my classic asshole state I pulled out a fellow Dade county boy I had in my CD case and cranked the music up loud as fuck. And if you guessed Trick Daddy as the artist, you're right. I have a 12 inch subwoofer in the back and I turned the gain up as loud as I could on the amp so I could shake this pig's minivan.

As soon as the profanity started she did somethign I've never seen in my life. The woman started praying for me and had her hand extended towards my car!!! I was like WTF?!?!? :eek: I was trying to read her lips to see what she was saying and then I started thinking I was hallucinating....turns out she was speaking in a different language while praying for me. :eek: All this happened in like maybe 3 minutes. When traffic picked back up she put on her turn signal and was turning into McDonald's. I turned off the CD and yelled out, "Gluttony is a sin you nasty bitch!" and sped off.

Now I know I'm going to have to go to confession come christmas time for what I did today, but why in the hell are holy rolling christians always fat or in many instances they don't keep themselves up? Doesnt God say your body is a temple? I'm begining to come to the conclusion that the only "real" christians that arent preachers/priests/rabbis are those that have somethign wrong with them or they don't feel good about themselves mentally. Is anbody feeling me on this one?

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Cashmoney

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Well, I am pretty sure that rabbis aren't Christians.

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Thank you there Miss Hotty McTotty. Could you please comment on the actual topic? ;)




-BTW, I'm sitting next to you at the convention. :D

um, since it is cash, i'm not sure if you're kidding or not, so i'll answer
 

Wow, that is really mean.

But to answer your question, I think you're wrong - a lot of my good friends who are really strong Christians are either athletes or very lanky. And confident / outgoing.

Then again, I also don't generally see them blessing people for playing music with curse words.

FYI - you're body being a temple isn't just about its physical appearance - it also includes your attitude which means that it just as wrong to be an ***hole.

The only thing we Christian women love more than Jesus is fried chicken

I am a christian and I feel totally great about myself. Remember there are different people in this world. Just because someone is a little heavier does not mean that they do not take good care of themselves or they are lazy.

I am 5'2 and I weight about 98-100lbs. It is hard for me to gain weight but that does not make me better than someone else. I have friends and sisters of different sizes and the world would be a better place if people treated other as though they would want to be treated.

How would you feel if you were her and someone yell at you and played music really loud on purpose? Would you feel respected?

Just giving my 2 cent

I dunno Cash, but the Bible also says that the tongue is a powerful weapon, too...

I see a lot of folks driving around with all kinds of Christian icons on their cars to support their beliefs.

Maybe God's plan is to have overweight people to survive when the "Rapture" comes... Thin folks are said not to have a chance...

But, I am not one for prostelytizing...

*DEAD* :D

AKA_Monet, I think you're on to something. If these are really the last days (as some Christians like to think), that means famines are right around the corner. The only people who stand a chance of surviving famines are fat folks.

Hm.

Maybe I need to go and get baptized after all. ;)

Mmmm... that and potlucks. We're always have potlucks at church...

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ROFFLE, that's about the funniest thing I've heard all day.

Wow, I feel guilty about my own post................... I don't love anything more than Jesus!! Fried chicken comes second. :D

We know that, Sweetie - but we also know that fried chicken is nirvana on earth! (same with potlucks!)

and don't forget the APPLE PIE! Yummmmmmmmmm church bbq this weekend!!! woo hoo!

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Actually, cutiepatootie over there didnt know what she was talking about. A rabbi can be a christian as well if you wanna get technical. Jesus was Jewish and people referred to him as "rabbi" yet he is also the christ, right? And the word rabbi basically means "teacher" and since that is true then the apostles could be viewed as each being a rabbi of the christian faith. Therefore, teachers of the christian faith can be referred to as rabbi. My favorite DG was trying to bust my balls and I'll leave it at that.

it's my weapon of choice (on soooo many different levels)!! ;)

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I just got my wisdom teeth out yesterday, my drugs are wearing off, and you're gonna post that! DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW BAD THAT LAUGH JUST HURT!!! :D

I have not laughed this hard in a long time, thanks buddy. But for your question, no I haven't noticed. I've seen Christians of all body types, no one standing out more than the other. I myself am fairly thick, but I'm healthy. I have big arms and legs, but it's mostly muscle (I'm an ex-athlete). But I think a lot of people who are Christians probably had a lot wrong with them in their lives (you wouldn't believe you needed God to fix your life at a time when everything's dandy, right?). When people fall on tough times, their weight is usually affected (ex., you tend to gain weight when you're depressed, you may eat cheap junk if you're too poor for supermarket food, etc.). That may factor in too. You also have to think about races. You'll find a higher number of believers among Mexicans and Black communities, and we have a little more thickness to us than others. So there's a lot to think about.

DANG IT!!! My mouth is bleeding, I think I moved my stitches when I was laughing, see I told you....oh well, it was worth it:D

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Then how do you explain all of the non-hispanic/black communities i.e. White followers of Joyce Meyer, Joel Osteen, and Drs. Schuller I & II just to name a few. You don't have to have some bad event in your life to become a believer.

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Don't include my name in this...thank you!

I have not made any comment in this thread, be it insulting as it is, and you pulling my name from another thread topic that was totally blown out of porportion by some overly opinated GC'ers is bad enough dont start something here with my screen name!

No one said you did. What are you talking about?

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All I know is that you should never trust anyone who's pulpit is acrylic.

BTW, cash, thats the funniest isht youve said yet. cold cuts. bwaahhahah.

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Damn, I didnt even know there was a cutiepatootie on GC. I was just saying cutiepie2000 in my own way and that word came to my mind....sorry. :(

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First off, Joel Osteen is a crock of shit. He's one of the greediest preachers out there. The guy is a joke.


But to answer your question.......most believers DO have some traumatic event happen in their life that makes them come to god. In my eyes that says they're too weakminded to deal with issues in their head on their own and they have to go to the supernatural to get reassurance that everything is going to be alright. And most people would consider that a sign of insanity. Now I'm not talking about your average family who goes to church on sundays and every once in awhile wed. nights if they're protestant. I'm talking about those holly rolling, tongue talking, lay hands on and make the people fall out slain in the spirit type of people. Ever seen one of those churches where the whole congregation is laughing because they supposedly have "the joy of the spirit" and can't control their laughter? Like that guy Rodney Howard Brown in Tampa? There's something wrong with those people. You have to at least conede that much to me.

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Not in my personal experience - but maybe it took a tragedy for you or someone you know?

One thing that always cracks me up are guys who say that women should be in the kitchen or otherwise "servicing" them, and then make fun of their weight, their willingness to be "obedient" and such. It's hypocracy at its best!

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Not for me, if it did I wouldn't be a heathen right now. I don't make fun of obedient women, just unhealthy ones. There is no excuse for being obese other than the fact that you're too damn lazy to change. If those women can go lay hands on people and come into agreement with prayer inorder to help someone better their life....they can damn sure do something about their weight.

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I agree with this...........and I'm a Christian, one that you might even find on the street corner trying to talk to you about it......but tounges, and laying on of hands, and such is not of God. If these people could TRULY heal people I want to know why in the H((( they are not in hospitals getting everyone healed and out of bed. It's phony............there is no such thing as being slain in the spirit, not now anyway...........................OK I"M GOING TO STOP, but I just wanted to add my .02.

Geesh, I need to put my boots on before walking in this thread. As just for the record, the "gifts of the spirits" ARE of God and in the bible. :)


What gets me is those people that only set foot in church on Christmas and Easter and don't have jack to do with the church or the bible, but yet believe its ok to criticize everything (calling this or that "wrong", not right, whatever). LOL Now that's a load of crap.....

Oh yeah, don't hate on Pastor Osteen because Lakewood has BLEW UP! :p Unlike some, he has never solicited for money on TV. Only up until last year is there even a blip on the church website about donating to their building fund.

Oh yea? Then why the hell is he on the church channel and they're taking up offerings for his ministry? Yea, he might not be the one asking for the money directly. But being on the TBN and associating with Paul Crouch is a given that you're going to get innocent people calling in on the "Get help with Pastor Joel" hotline and they wind up forking out money to him because some hotline self-proclaimed prayor warrior is on there praying for that person and then asking for money to help Pastor Joel and his ministry. Do you realize I called that crap one time while he was on there just to see what those people do and ask of you? I told her I was suffering from post traumatic stress disorder after being in a non-denominational church. The lady didnt even know what post traumatic stress disorder was but kept telling me "praise god I'm believing for your healing and if you give a love offering of $100 to pastor Joel he'll stand in agreement with you." Seriously, some people can't even pay their rent and they need pyschological help and are crying out for it. But then you have "pastor joel" on there saying he'll help you if you get his $100 tape series. Thats a crock of shit and Joel O'Steen's way of swindling poor people out of money. I'd like to see his face if he couldn't come up with the 1.5 million dollars he needs every week to run that "ministry" of his and instead someone he believes in tells him they'll help him as long as he forks out 2.5 million dollars to support their ministry. That would be some funny shit. I'd actually pay $100 just to see that.

Let me help you out..
 

I have watched both the CC and TBN frequently and in every Lakewood broadcast Pastor Osteen NEVER asked for money. He has never said anything like "send me $100 and you will be healed" type mess. He closes his broadcast with a call for unbelievers and backsliders to come to Christ - and that's it. The Osteen family never has, even when his father was still alive and head pastor. Only until about a year ago, has the pastor olsteen even began selling ministry tapes and books, which if you go to his website, the most expensive one is about $15 - no where close to the $100 you talking about . (http://store.joelosteen.com)

What you just spoke about ($$ and the call center) has to do with the CC staff and TBN staff, not Lakewood nor Pastor Olsteen. So before you go calling people out as shady, you need to do some research.

Good grief, I could understand if Lakewood didn't do nothing but just sat around on their hands and knees and just complain (like many believers) but they are actually putting God's word into action http://www.lakewood.cc/site/PageServer - Shoot, what are you doing? Its like those that have the biggest issue with the church are the ones that aren't doing jack themselves.

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FYI, Orthodox Chrisitians also have services on Wednesday nights as well as Saturday nights and Sunday mornings.

Now, there's nothing wrong with asking for money to support a ministry as long as it goes toward THE MINISTRY. When we say "building fund" we don't mean "building the pastor's new house" fund. So there's nothing wrong with that, but what you're talking about is not the way to ask. That story was entirely too shady. I'm mad at that one for you, that was unnecessary and I'm sorry one of your impressions of Christians had to be that.

I was wondering why you guys had 2 completely different stories, that clears up a lot.

Ok, there's nothing wrong with a healthy debate, but don't forget what this thread is about guys...

Honeykiss, you just know that I have to agree with you on this one! I am living proof of the Power of the Holy Spirit, and how He can and will heal all of those who want to accept His healing by the touch of another's hands. So many people would rather cling to their sickness than be healed! I have seen these miracles, too many to count, and know that above all, the Lord is Sovereign!

MsKKG, my church also has Wednesday night services. We break bread (yes, we have a salad bar!!) together, then have a choice of classes, then praise.

Cashmoney, there isn't one person on this message board who doesn't know about your distaste for obesity. For all I know, there could be some people who are praying for you about it! If ALL believing Christians were obese and slovenly, you might have a point - but they are most certainly not! Many churches have fitness groups, both prayer & and actual work out classes. The women-only fitness business, Curves, is owned and operated by a Christian who gives all the glory to the Lord.

Frankly, your remarks are out of line, misogynistic, and shallow, and I think you owe quite a few people an apology.

Yeah, so is the line about burning in hell for eating shellfish and selling your daughter into slavery. I'll play the leviticus card to illustrate hyprocracy. Bring it, if you dare...

Sorry, but I, like most americans believe it to be quackery. Youre not that special that you have your own language with god. None of us are. But if thats what keeps you forking over the cash.... BTW, is that the kind of church thats in a strip mall? Does it involve handeling snakes? Cause to me, thats what all that hooting and hollering nonsense is about. Wasnt it only about 40 years ago when Pentacostals figured out that it wasnt a sin for blacks and whites to date and marry? Thats when their credability went out the window for me. Not that it ever really existed in my mind.

BTW, Could someone let me know what school of theology the esteemed be-mulleted Reverend Osteen received his Doctorate of Divinty from? I'll settle for a masters of psychology? A bachelors in business administration? An associates in HVAC? I'll even accept a submission at any level from a nonsense bible college. I just want us all to be clear on his educational background. Ya know, the stuff that qualifies him to lead a church of 20,000. The years of intensive research and study into religion and philosophy. The counseling classes he had to take. Study of other religions and such. All the things that make a credible theologian.... Seriously, I'll send $100 to anyone who can post Joel Osteens academic credentials here on GC. Just post a link. Its really easy money... At least it should be....

*crickets chirping*

As I have said here before, if Jesus loved him so much and he was filled with the word of god, he would have been told by the holy spirit that he looked like a phucking idiot cause he wears a mullet.

For the jesus freaks on GC, go ahead and pray for me and cash. If I can speak for my boy cash here, dont send the nonsense prayers of peace and love that do us no good. Send the worthwhile shit like we win the lottery and hook up with supermodels. Thats some shit we can use.

<Lifesaver reservs the right, as an agnostic to be as contrary as he wants.>

*edited cause I keep coming up with funny ass shit to say...

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Wow. That was incredibly rude and unprovoked.

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I agree. You can be contrary, but being rude doesn't prove your point any better. Ad hominem accusations don't make you logical, you just look angry.

I did lol at the mullet joke though, I couldn't even be mad right then...

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Don't bring that into confession. It was tactless, but I don't think it was a sin.

some stats on obese women in America: AOA

i didn't see any statistics correlating obesity to Christianity, or any other religion. there are numbers that basically show the poorer, the fatter.

maybe that's why treatments (e.g. weight-loss programs) are tax deductible (AOA tax break info) for folks diagnosed with the aforementioned sandwich disease. i haven't found any official numbers yet, but anecedotal testimony has shown that people who retain and seep cold cuts from the neck area tend to migrate to McDonalds.

cosign.

Don't forget that some people are fat through no fault of their own. A friend of mine has Lupis. It's part of the disease. She hates being fat, but she's on prednisone and all kinds of drugs just to keep her alive.

There are people too, with thyroid problems. Graves Disease, (hyperthyroidism) once treated, can permanently lower the metabolism.