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kayla0deegee 08-04-2005 10:03 AM

The Exorcism Of Emily Rose
 
Has anyone seen the previews of this movie? It's supposed to be based on a true story... the trailer is pretty good but I am rather skeptical that it is a true story. Anyway seems pretty interesting if your into that kinda of stuff!

SuperSister 08-04-2005 09:17 PM

I saw the trailer and can't wait to see the movie. I will be sooooo pissed off if it sucks!

BetteDavisEyes 08-08-2005 07:29 PM

I saw the trailer w/no sound & didn't think it was that big a deal. Then I turned on the sound & it was uber-creepy. I'm curious enough that I may watch it but not alone b/c I'm a big chicken of movies like this.



What Happened To Emily

Schmeer 08-10-2005 05:10 PM

OMG - i think this looks freaky as hell! Do you know they recorded the exorcism in real life and the tape still exists somewhere? That's what you hear in the beginning of the trailer...creepy, eh?

This is SO on the top of my list to see...

Plus, I'm a huge fan of Laura Linney - she's such a good actress, imho.

Dvyne Evolushun 08-25-2005 10:14 AM

PG-13? Has someone fallen and bumped their heads????:mad:

epchick 08-25-2005 10:35 AM

I just hope this movie is better than Exorcist: The beginning, cause that sucked the hardest!!! UGH.

Schmeer 08-25-2005 04:21 PM

I never saw The Exorcist, The Beginning...bad, hunh?

I really think this movie is goign to be freaky and not cheesy at all...I just can't see Laura Linney in a cheesy movie. The commercials I've seen on MTV recently are awesome.

epchick 08-25-2005 04:54 PM

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Originally posted by Schmeer
I never saw The Exorcist, The Beginning...bad, hunh?

I thought so. I rarely go see movies like that because I get too freaked out...but I took a chance and went to go watch this in the theater. Halfway through the movie I couldn't help it anymore and just started laughing at all the cheesy computer animation. There are some creepy parts of the movie, but overall it is REALLY BAD. I feel stupid for even feeling scared about that movie.

ASUADPi 08-25-2005 06:24 PM

Well I really have no desire to see this movie but I did check out the link to the site and personally I think she was probably manic. I'm open to things happening, but I'm just not sure about posession.

LightBulb 08-25-2005 06:51 PM

Wow... I once thought of naming my daughter Emily Rose. No freakin way now.

Besides, that was a while back... I now wanna call her Daisy Jane. :D (No, I'm not pregnant; this is just a sometime in the indefinite future kind of thing.)

LightBulb 08-25-2005 06:56 PM

curiosity killed the cat
 
Just watched the trailer - holy crap that looks scary!

I know I'm gonna have to see it now.

I also know I'll probably have nightmares cuz I'm a big baby like that :p

ZTABullwinkle 08-26-2005 05:40 AM

They had pictures and some of the tape shown on Entertainment Tonight today (8/25). I don't know if she was truly possessed, but man those pictures were FREAKY!! :eek:

Schmeer 08-26-2005 10:23 AM

I saw that too!!! And I really do think this girl was possessed...i mean, there's a recording of the exorcism and from what i've heard, it's freaky as hell!

i know i'm probably going to have nightmares from seeing it, but i can't wait!!!

LeslieAGD 09-07-2005 12:34 PM

intersting article about the movie:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050907/...iew_emily_rose

BetteDavisEyes 09-07-2005 12:55 PM

I found this on a website & thought I'd share it with you folks.


Anneliese Michel

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

Anneliese Michel (September 21, 1952 - July 1, 1976) was a German college student who died during an exorcism. Her parents and the priests who carried out the exorcism were later convicted and sentenced to six months in prison. The Church soon after declared that Anneliese was not possessed.

Born into a lower-middle class Catholic family in Klingenberg, a small Bavarian town, Anneliese had poor health for much of her life, suffering from seizures which plagued her high school years. Despite this she was able to begin University of Würzburg in September, 1973, where she majored in Elementary Education.

A film has now been made based on Michel's experiences and death, written and directed by Scott Derrickson, titled The Exorcism of Emily Rose (2005).


Health
Anneliese's seizures were intense and worrisome for her and her parents. They involved spasms, unconsciousness, and trance states. She saw a neurologist in Aschaffenburg several times, and was diagnosed with epilepsy, of a type called 'Grand Mal.' Goodman asserts that her EEGs were consistently normal and that the neurologist, whom she is only able to refer to as 'Dr. L,' assumed epilepsy for lack of a better explanation of her symptoms. The anticonvulsant Dilantin was prescribed to her by Dr. L on either her second or third visitation with him. It was to this doctor that she eventually confided, despite the expected disbelief, that she had visions of grimacing, devilish faces. Dr. L purportedly mentioned that a Jesuit might be consulted, though he hotly denied that claim later.


Goodman's Timeline
Sept 1968 First, brief blackout, next day convulsions, bit tongue.
Aug 1969 Similar, family doctor refers Dr. L.
Jan 1970 Multiple unrelated illnesses force Anneliese into an Aschaffenburg hospital, then later to a sanatorium in south Bavaria.
June 1970 Seizure at sanatorium, medication prescribed by local neurologist.
Aug 1970 Discharged from sanatorium.
Sept 1970 Seizure
June 1972 Seizure, last. Sees Dr. L again. Dilantin by this time at least.
Sept 1973 3rd and final visitation with Dr. L, confides about grimaces. New meds in addition to Dilantin, may have suggested inquiry with the Church. *Factuality disputed

BetteDavisEyes 09-07-2005 12:57 PM

I also found this one


From her birth on the 21st of September, 1952, Anneliese Michel enjoyed the life of a normal, religiously nurtured young girl. Without warning, her life changed on a day in 1968 when she began shaking and found she was unable to control her body. She could not call out for her parents, Josef and Anna, or any of her 3 sisters. A neurologist at the Psychiatric Clinic Wurzburg diagnosed her with "Grand Mal" epilepsy. Because of the strength of the epileptic fits, and the severity of the depression that followed, Anneliese was admitted for treatment at the hospital.

Soon after the attacks began, Anneliese started seeing devilish grimaces during her daily praying. It was the fall of 1970, and while the young people of the world were enjoying the liberal freedoms of the time, Anneliese was battling with the belief that she was possessed. It seemed there was no other explanation for the appearance of devilish visions during her prayers. Voices also began following her, saying Anneliese will "stew in hell". She mentioned the "demons" to the doctors only once, explaining that they have started to give her orders. The doctors seem unable to help, and Anneliese lost hope that medicine was going to be able to cure her.

In the summer of 1973, her parents visited different pastors to request an exorcism. Their requests were rejected and they were given recommendations that the now 20 year old Anneliese should continue with medication and treatment. It was explained that the process by which the Church proves a possession (Infestatio) is strictly defined, and until all the criterium is met, a Bishop can not approve an exorcism. The requirements, to name a few, include an aversion to religious objects, speaking in a language the person has never learned, and supernatural powers.

In 1974, after supervising Anneliese for some time, Pastor Ernst Alt requested a permit to perform the exorcism from the Bishop of Wurzburg. The request was rejected, and a recommendation soon followed saying that Anneliese should live even more of a religious lifestyle in order to find peace. The attacks did not diminish, and her behavior become more irratic. At her parents house in Klingenberg, she insulted, beat, and began biting the other members of her family. She refused to eat because the demons would not allow it. Anneliese slept on the stone floor, ate spiders, flies, and coal, and even began drinking her own urine. She could be heard screaming throughout the house for hours while breaking crucifixes, destroying paintings of Jesus, and pulling apart rosaries. Anneliese began committing acts of self-mutilation at this time, and the act of tearing off her clothes and urinating on the floor became commonplace.

After making an exact verification of the possession in September 1975, the Bishop of Wurzburg, Josef Stangl, assigned Father Arnold Renz and Pastor Ernst Alt with the order to perform "The Great Exorcism" on Anneliese Michel. The basis for this ritual was the "Rituale Romanum", which was still, at the time, a valid Cannon Law from the 17th century. It was determined that Anneliese must be saved from the possession by several demons, including Lucifer, Judas Iscariot, Nero, Cain, Hitler, and Fleischmann, a disgraced Frankish Priest from the 16th century, and some other damned souls which had manifested through her. From September '75 until July '76, one or two exorcism sessions were held each week. Anneliese's attacks were sometimes so strong that she would have to be held down by 3 men, or even chained up. During this time, Anneliese found her life somewhat return to normal as she could again go to school, take final examinations at the Pedagogic Academy in Wurzburg, and go to church.

The attacks, however, did not stop. In fact, she would more often find herself paralyzed and falling unconscious than before. The exorcism continued over many months, always with the same prayers and incantations. Sometimes family members and visitors, like one married couple that claims to have "discovered" Anneliese, would be present during the rituals. For several weeks, Anneliese denied all food. Her knees ruptured due to the 600 genuflections she performed obsessively during the daily exorcism. Over 40 audio tapes record the process, in order to preserve the details.

The last day of the Exorcism Rite was on June 30th, 1976, and Anneliese was suffering at this point from Pneumonia. She was also totally emaciated, and running a high fever. Exhausted and unable to physically perform the genuflections herself, her parents stood in and helped carry her through the motions. "Beg for Absolution" is the last statement Anneliese made to the exorcists. To her mother, she said, "Mother, I'm afraid." Anna Michel recorded the death of her daughter on the following day, July 1st, 1976, and at noon, Pastor Ernst Alt informed the authorities in Aschaffenburg. The senior prosecutor began investigating immediately.

A short time before these final events unfolded, William Friedkin's "The Exorcist" (1974) came to the cinemas in Germany, bringing with it a wave of paranormal hysteria that flooded the nation. Psychiatrists all over Europe reported an increase of obsessive ideas among their patients. Prosecutors took more than 2 years to to take Annaliese's case to court, using that time to sort through the bizarre facts. Anneliese's parents and the two exorcists were accused of negligent homocide. The "Klingenberg Case" would be decided upon two questions: What caused the death of Anneliese Michel, and who was responsible?

According the forensic evidence, "Anneliese starved to death". Specialists claimed that if the accused would have begun with forced feeding one week before her death, Anneliese's life would have been saved. One sister told the court that Anneliese did not want to go to a mental home where she would be sedated and forced to eat. The exorcists tried to prove the presence of the demons, playing taped recordings of strange dialogues like that of two demons arguing about which one of them would have to leave Anneliese's body first. One of the demons called himself Hitler, and spoke with a Frankish accent (Hitler was born in Austria). Not one of those present during the exorcism ever had a doubt about the authenticity of the presence of these demons.

The psychiatrists, whom had been ordered to testify by the court, spoke about the "Doctrinaire Induction". They said that the priests had provided Anneliese with the contents of her psychotic behavior. Consequentially, they claimed, she later accepted her behavior as a form of demonic possession. They also offered that Anneliese's unsettled sexual development, along with her diagnosed Temporal Lobe Epilepsy, had influenced the psychosis.

The verdict was considered by many as not as harsh as they expected. Anneliese's parents, as well as the exorcists, were found guilty of manslaughter resulting from negligence and omitting first aid. They were sentenced to 6 months in jail and probation. The verdict included the opinion of the court that the accused should have helped by taking care of the medical treatment that the girl needed, but instead, their use of naive practices aggrivated Anneliese's already poor constitution.

A commission of the German Bishop-Conference later declared that Anneliese Michel was not possessed, however, this did not keep believers from supporting her struggles, and it was because so many believed in her that Anneliese's body did not find peace with death. Her corpse was exhumed eleven and a half years after her burial, only to confirm that it had decayed as would have been expected under normal circumstances. Today, her grave remains a place of pilgrimage for rosary-praying and for those who believe that Anneliese Michel bravely fought the devil.

In 1999, Cardinal Medina Estevez presented journalists in Vatican-City the new version of the "Rituale Romanum" that has been used by the Catholic Church since 1614. The updates came after more than 10 years of editing and is called "De exorcismis et supplicationibus quibusdam" otherwise known as "The exorcism for the upcoming millennium". The Pope approbated the new Exorcism Rite, which is now allowed for worldwide use. This new form of exorcism came after the German Bishop-Conference demanded to ultimately abolish the "Rituale Romun". It also came more than 20 years after Anneliese Michel had died.

Lindz928 09-07-2005 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BetteDavisEyes
They also offered that Anneliese's unsettled sexual development, along with her diagnosed Temporal Lobe Epilepsy, had influenced the psychosis.


So keep this in mind kiddos- If you want to avoid being possessed by the devil, make sure and have lots of sex so that you will be "sexually developed". :)

Ok, just kidding. Her story is really interesting. I love scary movies- I hope this one is good! :)

BobbyTheDon 09-09-2005 02:18 AM

man. Why do they always show the commercial for this movie really late at night when I turn off all the lights and am about to go to bed.

I get soooo scarrrred :( I always turn the channel immediately, but not before i hear her screaming " GAAAHHHH!!!!!!!" and some devilish face appears.

I try and cover my eyes and ears but dammit, it still plays in my head.

BetteDavisEyes 09-09-2005 12:17 PM

I hear you. The worst for me was when I was online the other night w/the lights off & the TV on for background noise. I heard the damn commercial, freaked, & dropped the remote control. I just ran out of the room b/c I am not ashamed to admit that I'm a big chicken.

AChiOAlumna 09-09-2005 10:32 PM

The actress who plays Emily Rose was on my radio station this morning. She states that she's heard pieces of the actual tape and that it's the only exorcism that the Catholic Church (aka the Vatican) has acknowledged. It sounds like it's pretty legit, but what do I know??

Tickled Pink 2 09-13-2005 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BetteDavisEyes
I hear you. The worst for me was when I was online the other night w/the lights off & the TV on for background noise. I heard the damn commercial, freaked, & dropped the remote control. I just ran out of the room b/c I am not ashamed to admit that I'm a big chicken.
I feel accosted whenever they play that commercial. If I want to hear it - I'll go see the movie (which I won't). I still won't look at Exorcist. Too real for me.

ETA: 2nd big chicken asking: did anyone see the movie?

PM_Mama00 09-13-2005 05:07 PM

I prolly beat yall out for biggest chicken. I refuse to go see this movie because I'm afraid that I will start having dreams of the devil and stuff. I'm a big chicken shit.

Lindz928 09-13-2005 05:15 PM

So this is what I heard about the movie..... Don't read if you don't want to know.






I heard it sucked big time. What I was TOLD (it could be wrong) was that the scary images you see in the commercial are the only scary things in the movie. Apparently the rest of the movie takes place in a court room and shows testimony and stuff. Again, I have no idea if this is true or not, just what I heard from someone who heard it from someone who saw it. :p

If this is true I am going to be highly disappointed.

ADPiAkron 09-13-2005 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LightBulb
Wow... I once thought of naming my daughter Emily Rose. No freakin way now.

Besides, that was a while back... I now wanna call her Daisy Jane. :D (No, I'm not pregnant; this is just a sometime in the indefinite future kind of thing.)

That is so funny because my best friend is due in December and was going to name her baby Emily Rose after her grandmother Emily and his grandmother Rose. There are other reasons she has changed her mind-- but she did mention this movie as one of them!! haha

ADPiAkron 09-13-2005 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PM_Mama00
I prolly beat yall out for biggest chicken. I refuse to go see this movie because I'm afraid that I will start having dreams of the devil and stuff. I'm a big chicken shit.
I second the chicken shit!! As you may have seen in another thread about things we were afraid of as kids- I mentioned I was and still am afraid of the dark!! Can you imagine if I saw a movie like this!!??

SSS1365 09-14-2005 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lindz928
So this is what I heard about the movie..... Don't read if you don't want to know.






I heard it sucked big time. What I was TOLD (it could be wrong) was that the scary images you see in the commercial are the only scary things in the movie. Apparently the rest of the movie takes place in a court room and shows testimony and stuff. Again, I have no idea if this is true or not, just what I heard from someone who heard it from someone who saw it. :p

If this is true I am going to be highly disappointed.

I heard that too, and I actually read it in a critic's review. So I think it's safe to say it's true.

But I'm still not going to see it, because I can't even watch the trailer without being freaked out! I'm another one of those that's still afraid of the dark... When my husband works the night shift, I sleep with the hallway light on and my bedroom door open!

PM_Mama00 09-14-2005 07:24 PM

WTF. My best friend is making me go see this tonite. I'm gona wear some diapers. I'm hoping she oversleeps her nap so we miss the time.

ETA: Phew. she didn't wana go!

Lindz928 09-15-2005 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by PM_Mama00
I'm gona wear some diapers.


Haha. This actually made me laugh out loud. Thanks!!! :)

starang21 09-16-2005 08:04 AM

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