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GammaGurl1986 08-01-2005 01:50 PM

Problems with national chapters
 
My sorority is not a national chapter and for that reason my organization and all the others on our campus are treated like we are worthless by this one and only national chapter on our campus. Our letters get torn off our House broken, awards get stolen that we win for being "most outstanding, etc.". No matter what they still continue to reek havoc among greek life on our campus. I know violence should never enter greek life sooo someone offer some advice!!!!!!!

Rudey 08-01-2005 01:52 PM

Re: Problems with national chapters
 
Quote:

Originally posted by GammaGurl1986
My sorority is not a national chapter and for that reason my organization and all the others on our campus are treated like we are worthless by this one and only national chapter on our campus. Our letters get torn off our House broken, awards get stolen that we win for being "most outstanding, etc.". No matter what they still continue to reek havoc among greek life on our campus. I know violence should never enter greek life sooo someone offer some advice!!!!!!!
Burn their house down!

-Rudey
--Get angry

KSUViolet06 08-01-2005 02:09 PM

Get your Greek Life Advisor or whoever oversees sororities at your school involved. Also, if people are burglarizing and vandalizing your property, get the police involved too.

33girl 08-01-2005 02:13 PM

Re: Problems with national chapters
 
Quote:

Originally posted by GammaGurl1986
My sorority is not a national chapter and for that reason my organization and all the others on our campus are treated like we are worthless by this one and only national chapter on our campus. Our letters get torn off our House broken, awards get stolen that we win for being "most outstanding, etc.". No matter what they still continue to reek havoc among greek life on our campus. I know violence should never enter greek life sooo someone offer some advice!!!!!!!
All the other Greeks on campus are local and allowing this one national group to terrorize them? That sounds really odd. I would think they would be the ones on the outside.

If you know for sure that they are the ones doing it, get proof and report it to their national headquarters.

PhoenixAzul 08-01-2005 02:15 PM

My advice? Do nothing. Continue to beat them in everything. Continue to be classy and not retaliate. Just continue to be awesome. Let them waste their energy and time being petty while you all excell.

(PS, I'm in a local sorority, considered by some on campus (of all locals) to be of no consequence because of our size...but yet we still win grades and we kicked butt at greek week this year, and we've never been before judicial and we just have a straight sisterhood with little drama. Soooo...the best way to beat em is to just keep doing what you're doing.)

moe.ron 08-01-2005 02:24 PM

If you have prove that they are doing these things, file a complaint against the individual members to the cops. Then, file another complaint to the school about the organization as a whole. Ask for an emergency meeting of the Greek Council or what ever it is you call it and publicly accuse them of being a problem sorority. Of course, this all could work only if you have concrete evidences.

ASUADPi 08-01-2005 03:09 PM

Okay the way I'm understanding the situation is that ABC is the only national chapter on your campus. You (XYZ) and a few other locals are being harassed by ABC. Right?

Personally, I think ABC is so jealous that they can't see straight.

Here you all are a local chapter, no national ties or support, yet your kicking their ass when it comes to awards and recognition.

I think they are behaving this way because they don't have a national to compete with.

I went to big schools, tons of nationals. I honestly don't recall the nationals being competitive with locals. They were competitive with nationals. (But I also don't recall too many locals at either ASU or U of A either).

Do you have proof it was ABC? I ask because what they are doing is vandelism, straight out they are breaking the law.

Could you take your "suspicions" to the greek council. Don't locals have representation there?

Tom Earp 08-01-2005 04:09 PM

Just wondering, How many Locals in NC?

How many Schools have one National and the rest are Locals?

Just want to get a better handle on this situation!

Vandalism is a Police Problem. Make sure if it happens, and who might have done it, Have Proof.

If this is your only Post, then makes some of us wonder if it is true or Just BS!:)

GammaGurl1986 08-01-2005 05:31 PM

Well i can't speak for any other school than mine so i do not know how many locals are at each school. But at my school there is one national sorority and one national fraternity then there are 4 local sororities and 3 local fraternities. Our school is private it's very small. The locals have been on campus since as far back as 1962 the national ones are rather new. I didn't know i needed a certain number of posts to be taken seriously, sorry :)!! I only turned here because proof is very hard to come by especially when it comes to pressing charges and bringing evidence before the Inner Greek Council. You can't get any action out of either of those choices with only circumstantial evidence. It would require pictures, fingerprints, an eye witness, etc. and those things we do not have. Thanks for the other replies though!!!!!!!

AXiDTrish 08-01-2005 05:41 PM

Try a video camera!!!

I think it sucks that any group national or local would ever deface the property of another group. That's pretty low!

aopirose 08-01-2005 05:42 PM

If you have no proof then how do you know it's them?

GammaGurl1986 08-01-2005 05:46 PM

Well, when every other sororities things get messed up, banners stole, letters broken, etc. it's always the locals and when you hear "oh everyone likes us thats why no one messes with our stuff" come on now..They act way to obvious and say things in passing but when you go to have someone do something about it that's just "hear say"

KSUViolet06 08-01-2005 05:52 PM

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Originally posted by GammaGurl1986
Well, when every other sororities things get messed up, banners stole, letters broken, etc. it's always the locals and when you hear "oh everyone likes us thats why no one messes with our stuff" come on now..They act way to obvious and say things in passing but when you go to have someone do something about it that's just "hear say"
Because without physical proof, that's exactly what it is- hearsay.

Set up a video camera. Get alarms mounted on things. Report things when they happen. Ask around to see if there are witnesses. Get police reports made and take pics. We don't go to your school, so the best advice anyone can give you is to get proof.

The bottom line: no one can do anything about it unless you have some sort of PHYSICAL PROOF. I understand that you are angry. Vandalism sucks and it shouldn't happen to ANYONE.

Yes, they might act "obvious" or whatever, and that sucks, if they are the ones doing these things to you, but you need more than that before someone takes action against these girls.

You want to be sure these are the girls before you take this to the cops or Greek Life, rather than being wrong and feeling bad for falsely accusing them.

aopirose 08-01-2005 06:17 PM

My goodness all of this stuff is happening to every other organization and not a single soul actually heard or saw the crimes being committed? How long has this been going on? When the police came out to investigate what advice did they give you? If there are some loose lips among the sorority in question, were the police notified so that possibly warrants could be issued to retrieve the stolen property and arrests made?

When this happened at my husband's fraternity house, the security camera caught the individuals and they were arrested two days later.

TSteven 08-01-2005 07:28 PM

Before making false accusations toward the NPC chapter, are you sure that it may not be one of the fraternities? Or perhaps some random individual or individuals who are not Greek?

Senusret I 08-01-2005 07:52 PM

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Originally posted by TSteven
Before making false accusations toward the NPC chapter, are you sure that it may not be one of the fraternities? Or perhaps some random individual or individuals who are not Greek?
Or APO.

Nobody suspects APO.

:p

nauadpi 08-01-2005 10:56 PM

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Originally posted by TSteven
Before making false accusations toward the NPC chapter, are you sure that it may not be one of the fraternities? Or perhaps some random individual or individuals who are not Greek?
This was my thought as well... Which does lead back to the fact that you need proof...

Unregistered- 08-02-2005 06:02 AM

Not so much offering advice, but I find the title of this thread unfair.

The actions you describe are unbecoming of any Greek organization -- local, national, or international. If this nationally-affiliated chapter is doing what you say they're doing, then it's a problem with *A* nationally-affiliated chapter, not with national chapters.

My sorority is the only NPC on a campus with 3 local sororities. They shit talk about us all the time, especially during rush. While we may be the largest sorority on campus, there's certainly more them than there are of us to cause trouble. That's why I find it hard to believe that this sorority is "terrorizing" the rest of you guys.

As others stated already, you really should get some proof before spouting off and accusing them of being responsible for what's going on. There isn't anything anyone on this board can do to stop the bad things going on -- you really need to enlist the aid of your school officials.

GammaGurl1986 08-02-2005 09:54 AM

Our college does not have security cameras... anywhere on campus, footbal equipment is stolen, computers etc. and no one gets prosecuted because there are no cameras. Thanks for all of your insight ppl!!

GammaGurl1986 08-02-2005 09:58 AM

OK - if offended ANYONE in a natioanl chapter SORRY but the reality of the situation is thats whats going on. I cannot make anyone see what we see everyday on campus and im not expecting anyone to. I just was looking ofr some advice SORRY

AXiDTrish 08-02-2005 10:05 AM

Do any of your members or parents own video cameras that you can borrow for a time?

Also if other equipment around campus has been stolen, it doesn't not help your argument that the National group(s) is vandelizing.....though that may be your suspicion (sp)s, it hurts the credibility. You definitely need some proof and when you have it, report it. It doesn't matter who it is....they are potentially committing a crime and they should be held accountable for their stupidity!!!!

nauadpi 08-02-2005 10:30 AM

Another thing that can help deter anyone for vandalising/stealing from your property is motion sensor lights... They are not the much more expensive then standard outdoor fixture and you can place them in areas you may not always want light, but will quickly make events happening more noticable... Also they can sometimes lower insurance costs...

KillarneyRose 08-02-2005 12:25 PM

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Originally posted by GammaGurl1986
OK - if offended ANYONE in a natioanl chapter SORRY but the reality of the situation is thats whats going on. I cannot make anyone see what we see everyday on campus and im not expecting anyone to. I just was looking ofr some advice SORRY

Is there any chance that your Exec Board could set up a meeting with the Exec Board of this sorority and maybe try to clear up the bad blood between you two?

It's just that since your school has such a small greek system, it would be best if you all could stick together; not mess with one another.

Good luck!

Tom Earp 08-02-2005 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KillarneyRose
Is there any chance that your Exec Board could set up a meeting with the Exec Board of this sorority and maybe try to clear up the bad blood between you two?

It's just that since your school has such a small greek system, it would be best if you all could stick together; not mess with one another.

Good luck!

Once again, The Voice of Reason! Heed and you will learn!

Are You still here or are You scared off?:confused:

GammaGurl1986,

I dont think anyone here is belittleing your situatoin. It is just not fully understandable. I would be pissed as Hell. But, as has been said many times, it has to be Proved. You do that and it is dead bang!

Dont just make allogations, Prove it.

So, discuss with the GL Advisor, talk about it and see what they say!

LightBulb 08-02-2005 08:23 PM

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Originally posted by Senusret I
Or APO.

Nobody suspects APO.

:p

APO? Alpha Phi Omega?

GammaGurl1986 08-03-2005 03:36 PM

NO I'm not "scared off" that was kinda childish don't ya think?

Senusret I 08-03-2005 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LightBulb
APO? Alpha Phi Omega?
Yeah...but the moment's passed. :)

pinkyphimu 08-04-2005 08:19 PM

perhaps you should call campus security every single time you notice vandalism/ theft. if every house keeps calling when these things happen, the persons responsible are bound to be caught.


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