Does alcohol make people say crazy things?
 

I know a lot of people out there have told someone they love them when they were fucked up, me being one of them, but do any of you think alcohol makes people talk about things openly? Like things you wouldn't normaly talk about?

For example, I found out something last night that was crazy. An old roomate of mine from college mailed me a package of some really good Venezeulan Rum ( stuff you can't buy in the states) and last night my girl and I killed a bottle of it (thank god for 800mg motrin). Anyhow, she starts talking and next thing I know we're talking about stuff we don't ever talk about.....like bitches she knows I've fucked and exgirlfriends of mine she's met. And then she says how she always compared every guy to me she dated. I asked why and she said because ever since she was 8 yrs old she told her parents she wanted to marry me. :eek: This kind of hit me in a way I've never been hit before. I know I'm the shit....but for bitches to want me for 15+ years....:eek: It kind of makes me wonder how more of these chicks are out there, because I know there's more than one.

Its my belief that I can have any girl I want if I want her bad enough. However, thats not to say I can do whatever I want with any girl I want. To put it plainly, some women put up with more shit than others. With this girl, I can do whatever I want and she's still in heaven no matter what I do. Nothing I do short of cheating could piss her off, and even if I got busted cheating....she'd still forgive me. Kind of like Jude Law's fiance Sienna Miller. The fact that she's been this way ever since she first saw me...it amazes me. And I'm wondering.......why in the hell would someone say such things (that you know are true but just never said them before) while drunk? With her, she's a really independent woman and I think it took drinking alcohol for her to get open in the manner she did because she isn't one to show any sign of weakness. Anyone think I'm right?


Post your thoughts/advice.


Cashmoney

Re: Does alcohol make people say crazy things?
 

Well, I would say that this "phenomenon" has been known to humanity for a while, given that the ancient Romans (or whatever) coined the phrase In Vino Veritas, "in wine is truth" or another one: "The sober man's secret is the drunken man's speech".

As for the young lady in question, well, it sounds like she doesn't place a high value on herself and therefore would put up with any kind of treatment including ill treatment (which is pathetic and sad, really) from the object of her affections (no matter if it is you, or some other guy).

My 2 cents.

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hahaha...or she could just be reeeaaaaaally in love with me. ;)

One has to love and respect herself before she can truly love someone else. If you love and respect yourself, you don't tolerate being treated disrespectfully. If you have self-worth, you don't let people treat you poorly.

Thanks-a-fucking-lot you guys! Who said anything about me treating her badly or being disrespectful? :o :( I havent done anything wrong to her that she knows about. :rolleyes: You guys are just assuming I'm treating her like shit probably because you read I've come to the realization that I can do anything I want....and get away with it. But really, I'm good to her.

:o

Dude, whatever....I don't think anyone is ASSUMING you treat her like shit for any reason other than what you say you do to girls. You say you'll never be faithful to a girl, you say you want to sleep with girls left and right and you're shocked that people think you treat your girlfriend like crap? I don't think you're an ass but I could see how that might be inferred from some things you say. But you know that right? ;)

Is the implication that you've done wrong to hear and she DOESN'T know about it? I'm just asking for clarication, I'm not assuming anything.

Anyway, I don't think alcohol makes people say crazy things, they just say things that they normally would keep to themselves. Their inhibitions are lower so they use a lot less tact. In this case, she could have been having a "feel-good" moment. Alcohol sometimes gives people a "superman complex"--they feel like nothing can go wrong no matter what they say or do. That's why people do stupid things like drive or do stunts or blurt out stuff they shouldn't--they think nothing bad could come of it. Maybe she felt like telling you how much you've always meant to her would make you see her as "the one." When you feel so strongly for someone, you might wrongly think it's mutual. Like, if she feels such strong feelings for you, you've GOT to feel something like that back. She may reason that it's not true and keep her feelings to herself, but with the rum lowering her inhibitions, all that reason flew out the window. She told you hoping you'd be touched and say it back. At least that's what I think.

I think it even goes deeper than the alcohol. Lots of women want to be known as the one who "made the bad boy settle down." She's known you forever and therefore is pretty informed about your sexual history. She would be able to say, "yeah, he just fooled around with all of you other girls, but he loves ME enough to get married." There's just something about a confident, self-assured man that makes SOME women want to be the one. Hell, I'm attracted to you and I know nothing about you except that you KNOW you are hot and "good at what you do!" ;)

Disclaimer before I get flamed - I am NOT saying that every woman on this board wants to tame a wild man. But an awful lot of ladies that I know do. It just depends on how they act on this attraction. I don't think I could ever admit to a man that I have known for years that we would be married unless it was our honeymoon. Feeling it and admitting it are two different things. No matter how much alcohol I've had.

Do you think she's hinting for a ring?

Ive found in my experience that alcohol does simply just bring out the truth...

Yea, I feel something like that back. I mean she's been apart of my life for the past 17 years, how could I not have strong feelings for her? I don't know if she was hoping for me to say something along the lines of "yea, I wanted you too when I was 8." She knows I don't say stuff like that. All I said was...."really?" It just kind of caught me off guard because I've always said I don't believe in love at first sight......but she completely wipes that theory off the board because I know she's been in love with me since the first day she saw me.

Why couldn't you admit that to a man? And yea, I know she's hinting for a ring. But she also knows about my exfiance, has met her and knows the iry feelings its caused me and therefore isnt pushing it. I just recently paid off the 2kt ring I got for the ex-misscashmoney. :rolleyes:

oh stop, you like it :) AND, back to the original topic...she was drunk. I've elaborated on feelings when I was drunk, I mean haven't you ever said something you wished you hadn't after a bottle of wine? Sometimes it's easier to be honest with a little liquid courage in you.
However, I wouldn't take this to mean that there are hundreds of girls out there who feel the same way. It means SHE feels this way or did when she was drunk. That's all.

"A drunk mans words are a sober mans thoughts."

So True, So True.

or she was lying.

cunt

I wouldn't admit it because I would be afraid it would scare him off. Or make him read too much into it. Or question the relationship or my motives in saying it. I guess one thing I learned EARLY on in my dating career is that you don't tell a man you want to marry him until he asks (or until you plan on asking him if that's your prerogative).

BOO on paying off that previous ring! I guess she didn't give it back? :(

So has she said anything about the conversation after sobering up?

I didnt ask for the ring back for several reasons. One reason is because it'd only make my ex think her mother was right in saying I was selfish. Another reason was it served as a reminder to always think with my brain and not my emotions.


She hasnt said anything regarding the convo, in fact she's been so cool its not even funny. I'm guessing it was something she's wanted to tell me for a long time but for some reason she couldn't. I'm not trying to sound like a douche bag or anything, but something is different....like in a really good way. And not just with her but also with me. I don't know how to explain it or what to call it. It's just different.

Awwww, Craig, young love sweethearts!!! That's too cute...

I guess, she needed all that rum to put it out there where she stands in regards to her feelings about you.

The fact that you've know her "forever" means that at some subconscious level you do trust her over most other girls you've been with. Like you've seen homegirl develop into a woman... Most guys are lucky to see that happen in their lifetime and have the girl like them in return.

What do you want to do now?

Those are two different things. I know guys that are not faithful at all and love to chase strange tail . . . but they treat their Girlfriends great.

I also know more men that are faithful that treat their girlfriends either indifferently or badly.

Some guys are great but just always need to see whats behind the next bush . . .

I am soooo ashamed of how long it took me to get that....

So, how's it going now that everybody's sober? Have you seen her at all since?

She had me watch this movie called "notebook" not too long ago. It was the dumbest movie ever. But I think she knew what she was doing. I think she had me watch it with her to kind of hint thats what our relationship has been like, only my situation was like the chick's in that movie and her's was like the guy's.

As far as what I want to do now, I don't have a clue. My mother called me up the other day just to "let me know" that whenever I decide to marry this girl :rolleyes: that she wants me to give her an heirloom ring that has been in our family for 5 generations and it would make my wife the 6th generation. Each generation has added their own diamonds to it. As it stands the ring has about 4 1/2 karats worth of diamonds in it according to my mother. Nobody ever wears it except on the wedding day. I think my mother has worn it maybe 3 times in her life. Anyways, I don't know what I'm going to do. As of now I'm taking it week by week. Its just a lot to handle being as this girl has been handpicked by both of my parents. I'm just now getting used to her being 5'1. Other than her being so damn short....she doesnt have any faults.


Cash

Its going good. She's moving in next week. Her titties healed up fine.

Lately you've been a man of few words..... but I couldn't agree with you more in this post.

I must have missed where there was something wrong with them.... Augmentation perhaps? :cool:

So I worry that your posts won't be nearly as entertaining to read once you are MARRIED. Or even in a live-in relationship. Keep it exciting for us!

She asked me one day if I liked Jessica Simpson's titties the most or Carmen Electra's. It was a tough choice but in the end I picked Jessica's. Next thing I know she's paying $11,000 and telling me she's getting surgery in a few weeks. But they're not the normal boob implants. Like they're some kind of fake tits that were injected. Personally, they're the nicest set of boobs I've ever seen in my life because they feel almost exactly like real ones but better. I forgot what type of thing she got but it's not the usual breast implant that women get for $5,000. She spent some cheese on those puppies and they're well worth it.

As far as the live-in relationship goes....everyone keeps telling me I'm done. Why?

WWWWWHHHHHHOOOOOOOOAAAAAA.......

I'll give her the benefit of the doubt b/c she may have just asked your opinion, she might have been considering that for a long time. But don't let her dupe you with all these hints and playing on your feelings for her. If she did that for you, she's definitely not ready to be married to ANYBODY.

:D Hadn't thought of that, had you?

I think AI makes people say crazy things.

Jessica is a much better choice than Carmen.

Live-in.... I guess it's just that some people in live-in relationships aren't as free-spirited anymore. Less spontaneity, less staying up all night drinking Venezuelan rum, no "call Cash up at the last minute to go out." You will find yourself asking permission before making plans. And these things aren't bad if that's what you're ready for. It's basically marriage without the paper to prove it. It works for some, not for others. It worked for me.... You'll have to make sacrifices, and judging from the few posts of yours that I've read, a lot of the things you enjoy doing will be among these sacrifices. Everyone gives up a certain amount of freedom in this situation, and if you are happy with that, you will be just fine. :)

BUT, judging from your comments that things have been quite nice recently, perhaps it is that time for you. Perhaps it IS time to settle down. At least you are trying it out before walking down the aisle. There are a great many people who have reasons for not liking the live-in situation. I think it is good to know a person's nasty habits and gross details before marriage. If you just live in and break up, one of you moves. If you are married and then find out you just can't live together, it is considerably tougher to end things.